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Old 12th September 2021, 17.37:51   #75-0 (permalink)
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Default Re: Next Generation of Fans

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Originally Posted by Rob View Post
We have fans who are utterly selfish idiots.

Foxy is an example on here, posting what was basically criticism of a steward the other day for wearing a face covering. It is all the same genre of self centred obnoxious behaviour.

People need to grow up and as you say, have some respect for fellow fans, and help enable a welcoming inclusive match day or trip to the stadium.

It is easy to blame 'the club' (previous or current custodians) but a number of issues can be put at the door of fans as well.
A minority have always caused problems both in the town and the neighbouring areas. Just read the George Borrow (Wild Wales) account about the Wrexham people on his travels he observed and met over a century ago.
Yobbish behaviour is not limited to the young either.

Just walk the streets almost anywhere in the UK and the amount of bad language and behaviour is increasing without respect to women or regard for children within earshot.

We need children to come to matches as I did as child 70 years ago. Welcoming is the correct phrase. "Inclusive" not the best word in the sense you used it. It is a result of welcoming that children will become included in the supporter base. Anyone standing by a youngster and "welcoming" them by continuously using foul and abusive language at a match or otherwise is my opinion brain dead and near feral.

Sure, the club can do a lot more with catering, mascots etc. but these are not the sole. or even best, things required to make them fans for life.

I very much agree with the overall sentiments of your post but the singling out of Foxy and appearing to directly associate him with the thoughtless. mindless and violent scum minority that deign to call themselves fans of our club is OTT.

I don't always agree with his posts, or indeed those many other RP posters with a manifestly lower level of wit, humanity and IQ than Foxy, but all have a right to air their views on this forum.

You of all people should know better and I would like to think that on reflection you are magnanimous enough to apologise for mixing up an opinion you did not like about masks with giving the next generation an improved starting experience.

My view is that you could have made your point without sticking the boot in. If you think otherwise then I question your judgement as there are a heck of a lot more worthy candidates for naming and shaming.

For clarity, I stress I don't know Foxy from Adam. Leaving his forthright and contrarian his opinions on one side, I have never seen any signs of him threaA minority have always caused problems both in the town and the neighbouring areas. Just read the George Borrow (Wild Wales) account about the Wrexham people on his travels he observed and met over a century ago.
Yobbish behaviour is not limited to the young either. Just walk the streets almost anywhere in the UK and the amount of bad language and behaviour is increasing without respect to women or regard for children within earshot.
We need children to come to matches as I did as child 70 years ago. Welcoming is the correct phrase. "Inclusive" not the best word in the sense you used it. It is a result of welcoming that children will become included in the supporter base. Anyone standing by a youngster and "welcoming" them by continuously using foul and abusive language at a match or otherwise is my opinion brain dead and near feral.
Sure, the club can do a lot more with catering, mascots etc. but these are not the sole. or even best, things required to make them fans for life.
I very much agree with the overall sentiments of your post singling out of Foxy and appearing to directly associate him with the thoughtless. mindless and violent scum minority that deign to call themselves fans of our club is outrageous.
I don't always agree with his comments, or indeed those many other RP posters with a manifestly lower level of wit, humanity and IQ than Foxy, but all have a right to air their views on this forum.
You of all people should know better and I would like to think that on reflection you are magnanimous enough to apologise for mixing up an opinion you did not like about masks with giving next generation an improved starting experience. My view is that you could have made your point without sticking the boot in. If you think otherwise then I question your judgement as there are a heck of a lot candidates far more worthy of naming and shaming.

For clarity, I stress I don't know Foxy from Adam. Leaving his forthright and contrarian his opinions on one side, I have never seen any signs of him threating fellow posters with violence or using shedloads of bad language.

Come on let’s be fair his put downs are much more skilled than the standard go away and multiply.
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