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Old 29th June 2023, 18.14:36   #1279-0 (permalink)
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If you're relying on online sourcing the obituary...
Just to let you know viewed it or article on death/funeral in advertiser on the micro Fisher in museum archives
Is it possible that edition not been downloaded
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If you're relying on online sourcing the obituary...
Just to let you know viewed it or article on death/funeral in advertiser on the micro Fisher in museum archives
Is it possible that edition not been downloaded
Thanks WAL, Yes that helps. The edition is not recorded in the National newspaper archives and so hasnt been uploaded. I will have to visit the museum, the next time that I am in town.
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What was his date of death
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27th July 1911 WAL. Burried on the 31st
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ES. Something you may be interested in, published 3 days ago : Pengwern. The Medieval Kingdom that was Erased from History. Youtube channel by Cambrian Chronicles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muGjr7vnElY&t=22s
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ES. Something you may be interested in, published 3 days ago : Pengwern. The Medieval Kingdom that was Erased from History. Youtube channel by Cambrian Chronicles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muGjr7vnElY&t=22s
Spooky Bobo, I watched that last night- our youtube algorithms must be similar. Another excellent presentation from the Cambrian Chronicles.

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ES. I've found Youtube's suggested videos interesting recently. Everything from EV's failings to Titanic Subs.
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Wats's Dyke LIDAR flyover, Cae Ras, General station is at the very end. Interesting to see the Motte and Bailey castle at Erddig be so distinctive 0:40. Don't know what the ovular depression is at 0:46 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QLd64-p3_M
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While it has been recorded that Edward Manners founded Wrexham Football Club on 8th October 1864, it is my contention that he was not the progenitor of the club, as he is often described; so much as he was a remarkably industrious and competent administrator who cultivated the ideas and ideals that had been set in motion by others.

Edward Manners was born in Knaresborough, Yorkshire in 1831, but he later moved to Truro in Cornwall, where he worked as a manager at Brunton&Co’s Penhellick Safety-Fuse Works, near Camborne. These safety- fuses were widely used as detonators in the mines and quarries of North Wales, and so his employers erected a new fuse works in Brymbo, near Wrexham in 1858.
The fuse works opened for business on 1st January 1859 and Edward Manners relocated to Wrexham, where he joined the cricket club, later that year.
He was elected as the honorary secretary to the cricket club in March 1863 and the joint honorary secretary to the new Denbighshire County Cricket Club, on its inception in April 1864.

Edward Manners joined the cricket club at a time when the town of Wrexham was undergoing huge cultural changes; and as I have shown in many of my previous posts, the birth of the football club was very closely associated with the rifle volunteer movement, which had been founded in 1859.
I have also shown in many other posts how the birth of the football club was very heavily influenced by a new craze for athletic sport.
Initiated by William Penny Brookes MD&JP in the small town of Much Wenlock, in the adjoining county of Shropshire in 1849, The Olympian Society sought to improve the health and well-being of the nation (and particularly, the labouring class) through education and athletic sport. This organisation inspired a new culture that embraced athletic sport, which swept across the country in the early 1860’s and forced politicians and civic leaders to provide funds to create facilities that were more conducive to a healthier lifestyle for the population.
The owner of Wrexham Racecourse- Sir Watkin Williams Wynn also owned land in Much Wenlock and he gifted a plot of land to the Olympian Reading Society for the construction of new classrooms, while also donating books from his library at Wynnstay.
But the birth of the football club was also closely linked with a temperance movement that had been gaining a great deal of traction for a number of decades.

Just 2 years before Edward Manners arrived in Wrexham, Sir Watkin had withdrawn his support for The Wrexham Races, due to social disorder that was largely attributed to the excessive consumption of alcohol.
In earlier times, the races had attracted the gentry from far and wide, but as the region continued to industrialise throughout the 19th Century, the size of the population increased as people moved to the area for work. The race meetings gradually morphed into a kind of working class festival, where the lower orders would amass for their annual holiday in October of each year. Consequently, the reputation of the meetings began to sour and by the mid 1850’s petitions were being raised to have the races stopped. The townsfolk had grown tired of the crime and mobs of drunken revellers that afflicted the town whenever the meetings were held. Although it should be said that the problem of heavy drinking in the town was not restricted to race meetings, as there had been a number of Rechabite Societies in Wrexham, which had been campaigning against the evils of the demon drink for many years. But the petition to stop the races had brought the wider social issues to the fore.
A branch of The Band of Hope Society was set up in the town in 1858 for the purpose of saving working class children from the perils of alcohol consumption, and The Wrexham and District Temperance League was founded in 1861. Of course, such issues were not specific to Wrexham, as there were numerous similar organisations in every town and city across the country. Together, these groups lobbied civic leaders and politicians to restrict the sale of alcohol and provide public facilities that were focused on health and education, as an alternative for the masses, rather than spending their spare time in public houses.
Their lobbying eventual paid off, as Parliament introduced the first reading of The Sunday Closing Bill in March 1863, which then led to a meeting being held on 2nd June at The Music Hall in Wrexham, where 300 residents unanimously passed a resolution for the mayor to forward a petition in favour of the bill to the Houses of Parliament.
Some of those people who attended the meeting in The Music Hall would later argue that the church and temperance groups all promoted sobriety and abstinence, but they did not provide alternative activities for the masses.
The cricket club provided an outlet for the summer months, but there were still no facilities for the public to enjoy athletic sport in the evenings and in the winter months in Wrexham, and so they formed their own organisation ‘The United Volunteer Services Club’ in October 1863, specifically to address that issue.

Evan Morris, Charles Edward Kershaw and Joseph Wilbraham Clark had attended the meeting in The Music Hall and they were also members of the original group that founded The United Volunteer Services Club. They were all rifle volunteers and influential members of the cricket club who continued to lobby for the provision of facilities, where the public could enjoy athletic sport in the evenings and in the winter months, when the cricket season had ended.

At the first end-of-season-meeting for the recently-formed county cricket club at The Turf Hotel on 8th October 1864, Edward Manners announced “There is one thing, gentlemen. I wish to name, the great want of amusement in this town in winter time. It is my intention to purchase a football in the course of this week, and I shall expect a good many down to the field next Saturday. There are other games I should like to introduce, especially a Yorkshire one called knur and spell," a very nice game. It was only yesterday I called upon the Mayor and he said he should like to see an athletic club established in Wrexham. If we have athletic sports and cannot obtain a room suitable for holding them in we can have them on the green”. Mr Evan Morris then arose to propose the health of the president and vice-president. “They have brought many gentlemen to this club and I hope next year they may be instrumental in bringing a great many more”.
Evan Morris was referring to Sir Watkin and Major Townshend Mainwairing, who had brought an additional 6 vice-presidents into the club when the old cricket club had morphed into the new county club, just 6 months earlier. This had attracted new funds from outside of the town and also improved the quality of the team, which could now be selected from a much wider pool of cricketers from outside of the town.
Many of those cricketers were also rifle volunteers in the 9 different companies that now trained together on The Racecourse as the 1st Battalion of The Denbighshire Rifle Volunteers.
Captain Simon Yorke JP was one of the new vice presidents of the cricket club. He was a leading figure in The Wrexham and District Temperance League and he donated his grounds at Erddig for the use of the Temperance Festival in 1864. The festivals were huge events that attracted thousands of visitors who enjoyed footraces, archery competitions, games of football and cricket and other forms of athletic sport.
Fellow vice president- Thomas Lloyd Fitzhugh JP also donated his grounds at Plaspower for the Temperance Gala of July 1865 and another vice-president- Michael Humble JP opened his grounds at Gwersylt Park for the gala in August 1866, while the 1867 festival was held in the grounds of Acton Park, which had been donated by a new vice president of the cricket club- Sir Robert Alfred Cunliffe JP.

Like William Penny Brookes, these men were all Judges who had a civic duty as well as a civil responsibility to promote temperance in order to maintain the social stability of the area, but they were also long-standing military men who either served as officers or supported the rifle volunteer corps through subscriptions.
All of these organisations were interlinked and it is my belief that it was the events that I have described throughout this thread, which all conspired to give rise to the birth of the football club, which Edward Manners then carried forward in his role as the honorary secretary to the cricket club. He was responding to a campaign that had been started by some of his team mates when he announced his intention to buy a football in the course of the week. And he was also responding to the wishes of the president and vice-presidents of the cricket club who wanted the masses to take up athletic sport, rather than spending their spare time and money in public houses.
Moreover, when Edward Manners made his announcement, he also stated that he had just spoken with the mayor, who told him that he wanted to see an athletic club established in the town.
At that time, the Mayor of Wrexham was John Lewis. He was a solicitor and a former magistrate’s clerk who was one of the executive committee that founded the rifle volunteer corps in Wrexham in 1859. But he was replaced by Joseph Clark snr, who was elected as the new mayor just 2 weeks after the new football club had played its first game. Joseph Clark snr was a former cricketer in the old Wrexham team and he was also a member of the new county cricket club. Joseph snr had 2 sons- Joseph Wilbraham, who was an Ensign in the 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers, while his younger son, Robert Henry was a Private. Both of his sons played cricket for the new county club and Joseph Wilbraham would also play for the new football team that the cricket club created. He was one of the founding members of The United Volunteer Services Club, which had been campaigning to bring athletic sport to the masses in Wrexham; while his father, the new mayor, was also campaigning to create an athletics festival in the town.

The football team played a few games throughout the winter of 1864/65, and on 15th April 1865 a letter to the editor was published in The Wrexham Advertiser.
The letter, which was signed under the pseudonym ‘JST’ proposed that an athletic festival should be held on Wrexham Racecourse, and he asked that the townsfolk would at once start the proceedings, although he added that he believed that the mayor was about to establish a similar event.
The football team played their last game of their first season on the 28th April and the members of the cricket club then voted to use all of the profit that they had made from subscriptions to fund an athletic sports day on The Racecourse on 8th May 1865. The event proved to be a success and so the athletic sports day was repeated in the autumn and at the end of each football season.
The football club was renamed as Wrexham Football and Athletic Club, and The United Volunteer Services Club was disbanded soon after, as it had achieved its aim.

Without Edward Manners, I doubt if the football club would ever have been established, but in terms of the history of the club, I feel that it would be disingenuous to omit the context in which the club was created and I also feel that it would be a distortion of that context to exclude those individuals who initiated the process, which set the wheels in motion.
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