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Correction. The club was founded at The Turf Hotel on 4th October 1864 'not the 8th' which was the date that the meeting was recorded in The Wrexham Advertiser.
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It has been known for some time that Edward Manners had been elected as the joint honorary secretary to the new Denbighshire County Cricket Club, just 5 months before the football club was founded in October 1864. But there was another honorary secretary who was elected at the same time, although his involvement has not previously been mentioned.

Rumley Charles Godfrey was born the son of the Reverend Thomas Godfrey and Mary Maria at Horringer cum Ickworth in the county of Suffolk on 16th November 1823. He had 8 siblings.
Thomas Godfrey died when Rumley was just 2 years old and so he was schooled by a charity that gave relief to the widows of clergymen. But his mother also died in November 1838 and Rumley was removed from school in August 1839 to be apprenticed as a cadet in The East India Company, where he served in the 31st Regiment of the Madras Native Infantry. He was promoted to the rank of Captain in 1855, but he was wounded during the mutiny of 1857-59 and he was given a pension to return to England where he married Emily Fitzhugh in Hastings in 1860.
She was the sister of Thomas Lloyd Fitzhugh JP of Plaspower, near Wrexham, and she had recently inherited the Bryn Estyn estate from Sir William Lloyd, who had died in 1857. The couple then moved to Bryn Estyn, where Emily gave birth to 2 sons- Rumley Frederick in 1861 and Charles Henry in 1863.
Rumley Charles Godfrey adapted to life as a country squire and he was invited to a meeting at The Wynnstay Arms on 29th April 1864 for the purpose of forming a new county cricket club. His brother-in-law was one of the new vice presidents of the club and Rumley was elected as the joint honorary secretary. Together with Edward Manners, Rumley Charles Godfrey would serve as a joint honorary secretary to the new county cricket club for the next few years, and while he was not as prolific as Edward Manners would be in that role, Rumley Charles Godfrey would help to found the new football club in October 1864, and continued to serve as an honorary secretary throughout the first few years that the football club was established.

He was later elected to the Board of Guardians for the townships of Bieston and Gourton, and he also served on the school board for the district of Abenbury.

Emily Godfrey died, aged 64 at Rhyl on 7th June 1892 and Rumley Charles Godfrey died of heart disease, aged 69, while on a visit to Manchester Street in London on 23rd September 1893.
Their son- Rumley Frederick Godfrey would be promoted to Major of the 3rd Battalion of The Royal Welch Fusiliers in April 1895.

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The birth of Wrexham Football and Athletic Club was derived from;-
1. The Olympic Ideal, which had been set in motion by William Penny Brookes in Much Wenlock, Shropshire in 1850.
2. The Temperance Movement.
3. and particularly, The Volunteer Rifle Movement of 1859.
Together, these 3 national movements inspired a new culture that embraced athletic sport, which then gave rise to a new breed of football clubs that started to emerge in the 1860’s.


To show the extent to which the birth of the football club was influenced by the formation of the Rifle Volunteers in 1859 (as well as the rise of a new culture that embraced athletic sport) I have added a list of the members of the Denbighshire County Cricket Club from the 1864 season (the year in which they founded Wrexham Football and Athletic Club) and I have highlighted the connections with the rifle volunteers (in red) and the military in general (in blue).
Although it should be noted that the list includes only those members whose identities that I have been able to confirm so far, and it should also be noted that it is likely that some of those members would have had associations with the rifle volunteers that I have not yet been able to find. Even so, the list shows a very strong association.

Charles Edward Kershaw (born Saddleworth 1829- died Southport 1874).
1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers (pre 1863) and paid additional subscriptions to fund the organisation.
William Tootell (born Nottingham 1831- died Wrexham 1866).
Sergeant in The Royal Denbighshire Rifle Militia (Wrexham) and drill Sergeant in the 5th (Gwersylt) Rifle Volunteers.
Thomas Broster (born Wrexham 1845- died Bethlehem, South Africa 1921).
Thomas Hanmer (born- Overton 1839- died Wrexham 1887).
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers.
Edward Ephraim Knibbs (born Chester 1837- died Wrexham 1872).
Private in 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers and paid additional subscriptions to fund the organisation.
Thomas Heath (born Ramsbury, Wilts 1824- died Wycombe, Bucks 1887).
Former Sergeant in the Grenadier Guards and became a drill-sergeant and Sergeant-Major in (1st) Wrexham Rifle Volunteers.
Thomas Henry Sykes (born Huddersfield 1840- died Nottingham 1910).
Private in the 1st (Wrexham) Rifle Volunteers.
John Taylor (born Wrexham 1842- died Newcastle 1895).
George Rumsey Johnston (born Bangor 1843- died Denbighshire 1912).
Joseph Roberts (born Oswestry 1837- died Liverpool- 1894).

William Henry Pritchard (born Llanbeblig 1841- died Wrexham 1875).
George Pritchard (born Llanbeblig 1843- died Isle of Man 1875).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Herbert Hugh Mundy (born East Anton, Andover 1843-died Vail, Ohio. USA 1874).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Thomas Ralph Heywood (born Wrexham 1840- died Liverpool 1883).
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Edward Evans (born Mold 1843- died Bristol 1930).
Edward Lewis (born Wrexham 1840- died Mostyn 1879)
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Samuel Charles Jones (born Wrexham 1840- died Wrexham 1874).
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Thomas Llewelyn Rees (born Llanbeblig 1842- died Caernarfon 1876).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Evan Morris (born Wrexham 1842- died Eastbourne 1890).
Enlisted as a Private in the 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers at the age of 17 and was promoted through the ranks to Lieutenant-Colonel of The Denbighshire Rifle Volunteers and Major of The Volunteer Brigade of The Royal Welsh Fusiliers.
Edward Manners (born Knaresborough, Yorks 1830- died Wrexham 1911).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.

William Henry Heywood (born Wrexham 1845- died Wrexham 1904).
James Llewellyn Heywood (born Wrexham 1848- died Wrexham 1876).
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Thomas Walker (born Southam, Warwickshire 1843- Died Wrexham 1904).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Frederick Page (born Poulton, Gloucestershire 1825 died Llangollen 1910).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Rumley Charles Godfrey (born Horringer Cum Ickworth 1825- died London 1893).
Captain in HM Indian Army and subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Joseph Clark (born Bromfield, Cumberland 1804- died Wrexham 1881).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Joseph Wilbraham Clark (born Wrexham 1840- died Wrexham 1877).
Ensign 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers.
Robert Henry Clark (born Wrexham 1836- died Wrexham 1868).
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Albert Bury (born Wrexham 1842- died Seaforth, Liverpool 1878)
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
John Whittaker (born Shropshire 1828- died Llangollen 1883).
Wrexham Yeomanry Cavalry and Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers.

Nehemiah Humphreys (born Erbistock, Marchwiel 1843- died Leeds 1885).
Corporal 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Alexander Fyfe (born Farnworth, Lancashire 1846- died Wrexham 1871).
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers.
Charles Fyfe born (born Farnworth, Lancashire 1848- died Wrexham 1870)
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
William Charles Zachary (born Allington 1847- died Cape Town SA 1918
Edwin Alfred Cross (born Wrexham 1848- died Old Colwyn 1924).
James Armstrong (born Isle of Man 1828- died Farndon, Cheshire 1875).
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Edmund Leeming (born Birkenhead 1846- died Chester 1897).
Michael Manion (born Galway, Ireland 1840- died Wrexham 1904).
Corporal 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers.
Thomas Buchannan Taylor (born Wrexham 1847- died Wrexham 1929).
William Robert Creech (born Fordington Dorset1848- died Sturminster Newton 1871)

Edward Lovatt (born Wrexham 1824- died Wrexham 1886)
Captain, later Sergeant-Major 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
George Warburton (born Bangor is y Coed 1825 died Gresford 1876).
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
James Lindop- (born Wrexham 1821- died Wrexham 1883).
Robert Daniel Luck (born Norwich 1841- died Wrexham 1870).
George William Wicker (born Portsea Hampshire 1840- died Lewisham 1922).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Edwin Swynfen Bellyse (born Audlem, Cheshire 1844- died Nantwich 1877).
Ensign 7th (Chirk) Rifle Volunteers
Tom Lee Bellyse (born Adderley, Shropshire 1846- died Audlem 1868).
Mortimer Bache Maurice (born Chester 1848- died Stafford 1875).
1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Arthur Hill Maurice (born Chester 1846- died Cardiff 1917).
Lieutenant 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Edward Plant (born Tipton, Staffs 1844- died Tipton 1915).

Thomas Arthur Corlett Milligan (born Liverpool 1837- died Ruthin 1911)
George Bate (born Wrexham 1848- died London 1935).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
John Ollerhead (born Wrexham 1825- died Wrexham 1888).
Sergeant 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
John Faulkner Edgerley (born Shrewsbury 1823- died Saffron Walden, Essex 1890).
Subscriber to the 7th (Chirk) Rifle Volunteers and 1st (Wrexham) Rifle Volunteer funds.
Edward Downes Jones (born Marchwiel 1845- died Wrexham 1920).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Frederick Charles Richards (born Wrexham 1848- died Wrexham 1897)
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers.
William Wheatland Jeffrey (born Folkestone, Kent 1844- died Hastings, Sussex 1912)
Reverend Humphrey Humphreys (born Llanynys 1842- died Henllan 1930).
William Townshend (born Sehore, India 1849- died Kirkby Mallory, Leics 1923).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Edward Hunter Townshend (born Sehore, India 1848- died Gold Coast, Ghana 1873).
Lieutenant 16th (Bedfordshire) Regiment of Foot.



Hanmer Hilton Jones (born Elesmere 1842- died Oswestry1935).
Thomas Price (born Dolgelley 1842- died Dolgelley 1932).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers.
Evan Henry Jones (born Liverpool 1843- died Liverpool 1902).
Private in 5th Gwersylt Rifle Volunteers and subscriber to 1st (Wrexham) and 5th (Gwersylt) Rifle Volunteer funds.



Charles Henry Greville (born Northampton 1842- died Wrexham 1894).
Frank Hardcastle ‘later MP’ (born Tonge with Haulgh, Lancs 1844- died London 1908).
Edward Hardcastle (born Tonge with Haulgh, Lancs 1842- died Nantwich 1877).
Cornet, later Lieutenant Denbighshire Yeomanry Cavalry.
Reverend Edmond Sellon (born Grosmont, Monmouthshire 1839- died Christchurch, Hampshire 1896).
Melville Sellon (born Grosmont, Monmouthshire 1839- died Brightwater, New Zealand 1880).
Frank Bond (born Handsworth, Birmigham 1847- died Bexhill-on sea 1930).
Later enlisted in the 4th Dragoon Guards.
Joseph Lindop Pembrey- (born Overton, Flintshire 1842- died Overton 1868).




Samuel Sharp ‘freelance professional Cricketer’ (born Ruddington Nottinghamshire 1839- died Ruddington 1924).
William Turner (born Wrexham 1837- died Wrexham 1879).
Corporal 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
George Charles Griffiths (born Wrexham 1825- died Wrexham 1878).
Denbighshire Yeomanry Cavalry and subscriber to Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Edward Hughes Parry (born Denbighshire 1840- died Llangollen 1868).
Private, later Lieutenant 9th (Llangollen) Rifle Volunteers.
John Frederick Fleetcroft (born Chester 1830- died Chester 1916).
Colour Sergeant 1st Wrexham rifle volunteers.
William Mc Culloch (born Coxhoe, Durham 1840- died Gresford 1914).
William D Pallin (born Tarvin, Cheshire 1839- died Atcham, Shrops. 1911).
Robert Platt (born Houghton, Warrington 1842- died Pontblyddyn 1871)
Surgeon 1st Flintshire Rifle Volunteers

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William Hughes (born Ruthin 1823- died Wrexham 1893)
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers.
Joseph Jackson (born Wrexham 1846- Died Newcastle upon Tyne 1927)




President and Vice Presidents of the Denbighshire County Cricket Club when the football club was founded in 1864.


Sir Watkin Williams Wynn, MP (born London 1820- died Wynnstay 1885).
Lieutenant 1st Regiment of Life Guards (Cavalry 1842) later to becomeFounder/Patron and Lieutenant-Colonel of the Denbighshire Rifle Volunteers
Townshend Mainwairing, MP (born Ellesmere, Shrops 1807- died Trefnant 1883).
[B]Major 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Thomas Lloyd Fitzhugh, JP (born London 1819- died Wrexham 1895).
[B]Served in the Foot Guards and the Denbighshire Yeomanry Cavalry as well as the Royal Denbighshire Rifle Militia.He wasSubscriber to the 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Samuel Pearce Hope, JP (born Liverpool 1823- died Marchwiel 1880).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Edmund ‘Ethelston’ Peel, JP (born Devon 1826 died Lucerne, Switz 1903).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds
Archibald Peel, JP (born London 1828- died Broxbourne, Herts 1910).
Cornet Denbighshire Yeomanry Cavalry and subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Michael Humble ‘Magistrate’ (born Liverpool 1795- died Gwersylt 1870).
5th (Gwersylt) Rifle Volunteers
Thomas Edgeworth ‘1st Mayor’ ‘Magistrate’ (born Marchwiel 1805- died Marchwiel 1868).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Lord Arthur Edwin Hill-Trevor, MP (born Co Down, Ireland 1819- died London 1894).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Captain Boscowen Trevor Griffith-Boscowen JP (born Chester 1835- died Rosset 1904).
1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Captain Daniel McCoy ‘Magistrate’ (born Southsea, Portsmouth 1821- died London 1891).
Royal Denbighshire Rifle Militia (Wrexham) and 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Captain Simon York, JP (born Erddig 1811- died Erddig 1894.
1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Lieutenant-Colonel Roger William Henry Palmer, MP (born Chester 1832 died Wrexham 1910). Captain in 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers- Later to be Lieutenant General Sir Roger William Henry Palmer of the 20th Hussars: he was one of the survivors of ‘The Charge of The Light Brigade’ at The Battle of Balaclava in 1854.


The Bromfield Volunteer Rifle Corps was initially formed of 2 companies (Wrexham and Ruabon) in 1859, but was later expanded to incorporate another 7 companies from the surrounding area, to form The Denbighshire Volunteer Rifles.

On 23rd July 1859, The Wrexham Advertiser reported-


‘VOLUNTEER RIFLE CORPS,- -Several meetings have recently taken place for the purpose of deliberating upon certain matters of detail connected with the Bromfield Volunteer Rifle Corps. The dress has been decided upon, which, together with the rifle, &c, may be seen in Mr John Clark's window. The practice ground has also been fixed upon, Sir Watkin having placed a suitable plot of ground in Wynnstay Park at the service of the corps; There is to be a Wrexham and Ruabon company, and they are to be drilled by the staff of the Royal Denbigh Rifles- an order to that effect having come down from government’.



In the same column, the newspaper also reported-

WILBRAHAM ON CRICKET AND RIFLE CLUBS. - Col. Wilbraham, the officer who lately reviewed the Royal Denbigh Rifles, has addressed the following letter to the public through the Manchester Guardian;- “I beg to suggest, through your widely-circulated paper, the expediency of making use of the numerous cricket clubs throughout the country in the formation of Volunteer Rifle Corps. These clubs comprise precisely that portion of our population who would make the best riflemen, viz., active and intelligent young men, quick of eye and hand, fond of manly pursuits, and able without inconvenience to devote an occasional hour to instruction or practice. Each club might form a separate section for the purpose of ordinary drill, while by the union of several adjoining districts efficient companies might be made up, possessing the great advantage of all their members being acquainted with each other. This plan has been already tried to a certain extent in an adjoining county, and with considerable success."

https://newspapers.library.wales/vie...73/4587177/33/

Colonel Richard Wilbraham of The Royal Fusiliers would later become Adjutant- General of the Northern District of The Volunteer Rifle Corps.




I would hope that these posts and those on the preceding pages would help to clarify the circumstances that led to the formation of Wrexham Football and Athletic Club, and also explain (imo) how football became a working-class game in the latter half of the 19th Century.[/QUOTE]

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The birth of Wrexham Football and Athletic Club was derived from;-
1. The Olympic Ideal, which had been set in motion by William Penny Brookes in Much Wenlock, Shropshire in 1850.
2. The Temperance Movement.
3. and particularly, The Volunteer Rifle Movement of 1859.
Together, these 3 national movements inspired a new culture that embraced athletic sport, which then gave rise to a new breed of football clubs that started to emerge in the 1860’s.


To show the extent to which the birth of the football club was influenced by the formation of the Rifle Volunteers in 1859 (as well as the rise of a new culture that embraced athletic sport) I have added a list of the members of the Denbighshire County Cricket Club from the 1864 season (the year in which they founded Wrexham Football and Athletic Club) and I have highlighted the connections with the rifle volunteers (in red) and the military in general (in blue).
Although it should be noted that the list includes only those members whose identities that I have been able to confirm so far, and it should also be noted that it is likely that some of those members would have had associations with the rifle volunteers that I have not yet been able to find. Even so, the list shows a very strong association.

Charles Edward Kershaw (born Saddleworth 1829- died Southport 1874).
1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers (pre 1863) and paid additional subscriptions to fund the organisation.
William Tootell (born Nottingham 1831- died Wrexham 1866).
Sergeant in The Royal Denbighshire Rifle Militia (Wrexham) and drill Sergeant in the 5th (Gwersylt) Rifle Volunteers.
Thomas Broster (born Wrexham 1845- died Bethlehem, South Africa 1921).
Thomas Hanmer (born- Overton 1839- died Wrexham 1887).
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers.
Edward Ephraim Knibbs (born Chester 1837- died Wrexham 1872).
Private in 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers and paid additional subscriptions to fund the organisation.
Thomas Heath (born Ramsbury, Wilts 1824- died Wycombe, Bucks 1887).
Former Sergeant in the Grenadier Guards and became a drill-sergeant and Sergeant-Major in (1st) Wrexham Rifle Volunteers.
Thomas Henry Sykes (born Huddersfield 1840- died Nottingham 1910).
Private in the 1st (Wrexham) Rifle Volunteers.
John Taylor (born Wrexham 1842- died Newcastle 1895).
George Rumsey Johnston (born Bangor 1843- died Denbighshire 1912).
Joseph Roberts (born Oswestry 1837- died Liverpool- 1894).

William Henry Pritchard (born Llanbeblig 1841- died Wrexham 1875).
George Pritchard (born Llanbeblig 1843- died Isle of Man 1875).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Herbert Hugh Mundy (born East Anton, Andover 1843-died Vail, Ohio. USA 1874).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Thomas Ralph Heywood (born Wrexham 1840- died Liverpool 1883).
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Edward Evans (born Mold 1843- died Bristol 1930).
Edward Lewis (born Wrexham 1840- died Mostyn 1879)
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Samuel Charles Jones (born Wrexham 1840- died Wrexham 1874).
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Thomas Llewelyn Rees (born Llanbeblig 1842- died Caernarfon 1876).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Evan Morris (born Wrexham 1842- died Eastbourne 1890).
Enlisted as a Private in the 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers at the age of 17 and was promoted through the ranks to Lieutenant-Colonel of The Denbighshire Rifle Volunteers and Major of The Volunteer Brigade of The Royal Welsh Fusiliers.
Edward Manners (born Knaresborough, Yorks 1830- died Wrexham 1911).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.

William Henry Heywood (born Wrexham 1845- died Wrexham 1904).
James Llewellyn Heywood (born Wrexham 1848- died Wrexham 1876).
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Thomas Walker (born Southam, Warwickshire 1843- Died Wrexham 1904).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Frederick Page (born Poulton, Gloucestershire 1825 died Llangollen 1910).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Rumley Charles Godfrey (born Horringer Cum Ickworth 1825- died London 1893).
Captain in HM Indian Army and subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Joseph Clark (born Bromfield, Cumberland 1804- died Wrexham 1881).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Joseph Wilbraham Clark (born Wrexham 1840- died Wrexham 1877).
Ensign 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers.
Robert Henry Clark (born Wrexham 1836- died Wrexham 1868).
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Albert Bury (born Wrexham 1842- died Seaforth, Liverpool 1878)
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
John Whittaker (born Shropshire 1828- died Llangollen 1883).
Wrexham Yeomanry Cavalry and Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers.

Nehemiah Humphreys (born Erbistock, Marchwiel 1843- died Leeds 1885).
Corporal 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Alexander Fyfe (born Farnworth, Lancashire 1846- died Wrexham 1871).
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers.
Charles Fyfe born (born Farnworth, Lancashire 1848- died Wrexham 1870)
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
William Charles Zachary (born Allington 1847- died Cape Town SA 1918
Edwin Alfred Cross (born Wrexham 1848- died Old Colwyn 1924).
James Armstrong (born Isle of Man 1828- died Farndon, Cheshire 1875).
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Edmund Leeming (born Birkenhead 1846- died Chester 1897).
Michael Manion (born Galway, Ireland 1840- died Wrexham 1904).
Corporal 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers.
Thomas Buchannan Taylor (born Wrexham 1847- died Wrexham 1929).
William Robert Creech (born Fordington Dorset1848- died Sturminster Newton 1871)

Edward Lovatt (born Wrexham 1824- died Wrexham 1886)
Captain, later Sergeant-Major 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
George Warburton (born Bangor is y Coed 1825 died Gresford 1876).
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
James Lindop- (born Wrexham 1821- died Wrexham 1883).
Robert Daniel Luck (born Norwich 1841- died Wrexham 1870).
George William Wicker (born Portsea Hampshire 1840- died Lewisham 1922).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Edwin Swynfen Bellyse (born Audlem, Cheshire 1844- died Nantwich 1877).
Ensign 7th (Chirk) Rifle Volunteers
Tom Lee Bellyse (born Adderley, Shropshire 1846- died Audlem 1868).
Mortimer Bache Maurice (born Chester 1848- died Stafford 1875).
1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Arthur Hill Maurice (born Chester 1846- died Cardiff 1917).
Lieutenant 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Edward Plant (born Tipton, Staffs 1844- died Tipton 1915).

Thomas Arthur Corlett Milligan (born Liverpool 1837- died Ruthin 1911)
George Bate (born Wrexham 1848- died London 1935).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
John Ollerhead (born Wrexham 1825- died Wrexham 1888).
Sergeant 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
John Faulkner Edgerley (born Shrewsbury 1823- died Saffron Walden, Essex 1890).
Subscriber to the 7th (Chirk) Rifle Volunteers and 1st (Wrexham) Rifle Volunteer funds.
Edward Downes Jones (born Marchwiel 1845- died Wrexham 1920).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Frederick Charles Richards (born Wrexham 1848- died Wrexham 1897)
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers.
William Wheatland Jeffrey (born Folkestone, Kent 1844- died Hastings, Sussex 1912)
Reverend Humphrey Humphreys (born Llanynys 1842- died Henllan 1930).
William Townshend (born Sehore, India 1849- died Kirkby Mallory, Leics 1923).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Edward Hunter Townshend (born Sehore, India 1848- died Gold Coast, Ghana 1873).
Lieutenant 16th (Bedfordshire) Regiment of Foot.

Hanmer Hilton Jones (born Elesmere 1842- died Oswestry1935).
Thomas Price (born Dolgelley 1842- died Dolgelley 1932).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers.
Evan Henry Jones (born Liverpool 1843- died Liverpool 1902).
Private in 5th Gwersylt Rifle Volunteers and subscriber to 1st (Wrexham) and 5th (Gwersylt) Rifle Volunteer funds.
Charles Henry Greville (born Northampton 1842- died Wrexham 1894).
Frank Hardcastle ‘later MP’ (born Tonge with Haulgh, Lancs 1844- died London 1908).
Edward Hardcastle (born Tonge with Haulgh, Lancs 1842- died Nantwich 1877).
Cornet, later Lieutenant Denbighshire Yeomanry Cavalry.
Reverend Edmond Sellon (born Grosmont, Monmouthshire 1839- died Christchurch, Hampshire 1896).
Melville Sellon (born Grosmont, Monmouthshire 1839- died Brightwater, New Zealand 1880).
Frank Bond (born Handsworth, Birmigham 1847- died Bexhill-on sea 1930).
Later enlisted in the 4th Dragoon Guards.
Joseph Lindop Pembrey- (born Overton, Flintshire 1842- died Overton 1868).

Samuel Sharp ‘freelance professional Cricketer’ (born Ruddington Nottinghamshire 1839- died Ruddington 1924).
William Turner (born Wrexham 1837- died Wrexham 1879).
Corporal 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
George Charles Griffiths (born Wrexham 1825- died Wrexham 1878).
Denbighshire Yeomanry Cavalry and subscriber to Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Edward Hughes Parry (born Denbighshire 1840- died Llangollen 1868).
Private, later Lieutenant 9th (Llangollen) Rifle Volunteers.
John Frederick Fleetcroft (born Chester 1830- died Chester 1916).
Colour Sergeant 1st Wrexham rifle volunteers.
William Mc Culloch (born Coxhoe, Durham 1840- died Gresford 1914).
William D Pallin (born Tarvin, Cheshire 1839- died Atcham, Shrops. 1911).
Robert Platt (born Houghton, Warrington 1842- died Pontblyddyn 1871)
Surgeon 1st Flintshire Rifle Volunteers
William Hughes (born Ruthin 1823- died Wrexham 1893)
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers.
Joseph Jackson (born Wrexham 1846- Died Newcastle upon Tyne 1927)

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John William Jones (born Denbigh 1832- died Wrexham 1887)
Bandmaster Denbighshire Rifle Militia (Wrexham) and Bandmaster 1st (Wrexham) Rifle Volunteers.
William Bellingham (born Hackney, London 1829- died Surrey 1912
Proprietor of the Wrexham Telegraph and subscriber to 1st (Wrexham) Rifle Volunteer funds
Thomas Williams (Born Wrexham 1814- died Wrexham 1879)
Frederick Herbert Heywood (born Wrexham 1850- died Wrexham 1872).
Ceasar Richard Brancker (born Rock Ferry, Birkenhead 1845 – died Heswall, Cheshire 1933).
Subscriber to Denbighshire Rifle Volunteer funds.
Joseph Salmon (born Huntington. Cheshire 1838- died Farndon, Cheshire 1907)
Urban Rufus Bradshaw (born Rhyl 1849- died Salford, Lancs 1913)




President and Vice Presidents of the Denbighshire County Cricket Club when the football club was founded in 1864.


Sir Watkin Williams Wynn, MP (born London 1820- died Wynnstay 1885).
Lieutenant 1st Regiment of Life Guards (Cavalry 1842) later to become founder/Patron and Lieutenant-Colonel of the Denbighshire Rifle Volunteers
Townshend Mainwairing, MP (born Ellesmere, Shrops 1807- died Trefnant 1883).
Major 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Thomas Lloyd Fitzhugh, JP (born London 1819- died Wrexham 1895).
[B]Served in the Foot Guards and the Denbighshire Yeomanry Cavalry as well as the Royal Denbighshire Rifle Militia.He was a subscriber to the 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Samuel Pearce Hope, JP (born Liverpool 1823- died Marchwiel 1880).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Edmund ‘Ethelston’ Peel, JP (born Devon 1826 died Lucerne, Switz 1903).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds
Archibald Peel, JP (born London 1828- died Broxbourne, Herts 1910).
Cornet Denbighshire Yeomanry Cavalry and subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Michael Humble ‘Magistrate’ (born Liverpool 1795- died Gwersylt 1870).
Founder and Administrator to the 5th (Gwersylt) Rifle Volunteers
Thomas Edgeworth ‘1st Mayor’ ‘Magistrate’ (born Marchwiel 1805- died Marchwiel 1868).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Lord Arthur Edwin Hill-Trevor, MP (born Co Down, Ireland 1819- died London 1894).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Captain Boscowen Trevor Griffith-Boscowen JP (born Chester 1835- died Rosset 1904).
1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Captain Daniel McCoy ‘Magistrate’ (born Southsea, Portsmouth 1821- died London 1891).
Royal Denbighshire Rifle Militia (Wrexham) and 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Captain Simon York, JP (born Erddig 1811- died Erddig 1894.
1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Lieutenant-Colonel Roger William Henry Palmer, MP (born Chester 1832 died Wrexham 1910). Captain in 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers- Later to be Lieutenant General Sir Roger William Henry Palmer of the 20th Hussars: he was one of the survivors of ‘The Charge of The Light Brigade’ at The Battle of Balaclava in 1854.


The Bromfield Volunteer Rifle Corps was initially formed of 2 companies (Wrexham and Ruabon) in 1859, but was later expanded to incorporate another 7 companies from the surrounding area, to form The Denbighshire Volunteer Rifles.

On 23rd July 1859, The Wrexham Advertiser reported-


‘VOLUNTEER RIFLE CORPS,- -Several meetings have recently taken place for the purpose of deliberating upon certain matters of detail connected with the Bromfield Volunteer Rifle Corps. The dress has been decided upon, which, together with the rifle, &c, may be seen in Mr John Clark's window. The practice ground has also been fixed upon, Sir Watkin having placed a suitable plot of ground in Wynnstay Park at the service of the corps; There is to be a Wrexham and Ruabon company, and they are to be drilled by the staff of the Royal Denbigh Rifles- an order to that effect having come down from government’.



In the same column, the newspaper also reported-

WILBRAHAM ON CRICKET AND RIFLE CLUBS. - Col. Wilbraham, the officer who lately reviewed the Royal Denbigh Rifles, has addressed the following letter to the public through the Manchester Guardian;- “I beg to suggest, through your widely-circulated paper, the expediency of making use of the numerous cricket clubs throughout the country in the formation of Volunteer Rifle Corps. These clubs comprise precisely that portion of our population who would make the best riflemen, viz., active and intelligent young men, quick of eye and hand, fond of manly pursuits, and able without inconvenience to devote an occasional hour to instruction or practice. Each club might form a separate section for the purpose of ordinary drill, while by the union of several adjoining districts efficient companies might be made up, possessing the great advantage of all their members being acquainted with each other. This plan has been already tried to a certain extent in an adjoining county, and with considerable success."

https://newspapers.library.wales/vie...73/4587177/33/

Colonel Richard Wilbraham of The Royal Fusiliers would later become Adjutant- General of the Northern District of The Volunteer Rifle Corps.




I would hope that these posts and those on the preceding pages would help to clarify the circumstances that led to the formation of Wrexham Football and Athletic Club, and also explain (imo) how football became a working-class game in the latter half of the 19th Century.


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There is no official documentation that has survived to tell us precisely how many people were involved in the formation of Wrexham Football Club in 1864, although we do know that the birth of the club was initiated by a speech that was made by Edward Manners, on behalf of the members of Denbighshire County Cricket Club, after the last match of the cricket season on the 4th of October 1864. We also know from newspaper reports that membership to the cricket club was attained by means of a subscription fee, which also originally served as a membership to the football club, after its inception in October 1864.
There were, however, a number of newspaper articles in 1865, which stated that the football club had ‘upwards of 100 members’ although, as I have explained in earlier posts, this figure appears to have been the combined membership of the cricket club and the football and athletic club.
My research would indicate that, aside from spectators, there were around 120 people who were involved, to varying degrees, in the cricket club and the football and athletic club at that time, although there were also a number of freelance professionals who were paid a fee to play cricket for the county club, and there were also cricketers from outside of the area who were sometimes invited to play for the county club, as guests. And so I imagine that these individuals would have been regarded as honorary members who did not have to pay a membership subscription. This leads me to believe that the figure of 100+ members of the football club (as recorded in the newspapers) was comprised of about 110 members who were paying an annual subscription to Denbighshire County Cricket Club in 1865.
Most of those subscriptions were collected by Rumley Charles Godfrey- the joint honorary secretary, and I believe that the subscription fee entitled the members to play for both, Denbighshire County Cricket Club and Wrexham Cricket Club, but also to play for the football club and to compete in the athletic sport competitions that were held on The Racecourse.
In 1865, the football club and the athletic events were still being funded and governed under the administration of Denbighshire County Cricket Club.

The end of the football season in those days was usually marked by an in-house game between members on The Racecourse, before everyone retired to the Turf Hotel for a meal and an end-of-season meeting; which initiated the opening of cricket season.
Many of the members played in both- the cricket teams and the football team, at different times, as well as competing in the athletic sport events that were held on The Racecourse.
Most of the members were soldiers or volunteers in the rifle force, while some were also insurance clerks and volunteers in the fire brigade. Many of the older members were also former soldiers, who helped to fund the volunteers through subscriptions.

I have now identified 100 individuals who were involved in the formation of the football club from 1864 through to October 1865, as it would seem that some of these individuals may have subscribed after the football club was formed in October 1864, but before the football season ended and the new cricket season started on 29th April 1865. I have also compiled a list of the remaining individuals, whose identities, I have not yet been able to confirm and I will update the list, as and when, I find the relevant information.

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The birth of Wrexham Football and Athletic Club was derived from;-
1. The Olympic Ideal, which had been set in motion by William Penny Brookes in Much Wenlock, Shropshire in 1850.
2. The Temperance Movement.
3. and particularly, The Volunteer Rifle Movement of 1859.
Together, these 3 national movements inspired a new culture that embraced athletic sport, which then gave rise to a new breed of football clubs that started to emerge in the 1860’s.


To show the extent to which the birth of the football club was influenced by the formation of the Rifle Volunteers in 1859 (as well as the rise of a new culture that embraced athletic sport) I have added a list of the members of the Denbighshire County Cricket Club from the 1864 season (the year in which they founded Wrexham Football and Athletic Club) and I have highlighted the connections with the rifle volunteers (in red) and the military in general (in blue).
Although it should be noted that the list includes only those members whose identities that I have been able to confirm so far, and it should also be noted that it is likely that some of those members would have had associations with the rifle volunteers that I have not yet been able to find. Even so, the list shows a very strong association.

Charles Edward Kershaw (born Saddleworth 1829- died Southport 1874).
1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers (pre 1863) and paid additional subscriptions to fund the organisation.
William Tootell (born Nottingham 1831- died Wrexham 1866).
Sergeant in The Royal Denbighshire Rifle Militia (Wrexham) and drill Sergeant in the 5th (Gwersylt) Rifle Volunteers.
Thomas Broster (born Wrexham 1845- died Bethlehem, South Africa 1921).
Thomas Hanmer (born- Overton 1839- died Wrexham 1887).
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers.
Edward Ephraim Knibbs (born Chester 1837- died Wrexham 1872).
Private in 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers and paid additional subscriptions to fund the organisation.
Thomas Heath (born Ramsbury, Wilts 1824- died Wycombe, Bucks 1887).
Former Sergeant in the Grenadier Guards and became a drill-sergeant and Sergeant-Major in (1st) Wrexham Rifle Volunteers.
Thomas Henry Sykes (born Huddersfield 1840- died Nottingham 1910).
Private in the 1st (Wrexham) Rifle Volunteers.
John Taylor (born Wrexham 1842- died Newcastle 1895).
George Rumsey Johnston (born Bangor 1843- died Denbighshire 1912).
Joseph Roberts (born Oswestry 1837- died Liverpool- 1894).

William Henry Pritchard (born Llanbeblig 1841- died Wrexham 1875).
George Pritchard (born Llanbeblig 1843- died Isle of Man 1875).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Herbert Hugh Mundy (born East Anton, Andover 1843-died Vail, Ohio. USA 1874).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Thomas Ralph Heywood (born Wrexham 1840- died Liverpool 1883).
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Edward Evans (born Mold 1843- died Bristol 1930).
Edward Lewis (born Wrexham 1840- died Mostyn 1879)
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Samuel Charles Jones (born Wrexham 1840- died Wrexham 1874).
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Thomas Llewelyn Rees (born Llanbeblig 1842- died Caernarfon 1876).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Evan Morris (born Wrexham 1842- died Eastbourne 1890).
Enlisted as a Private in the 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers at the age of 17 and was promoted through the ranks to Lieutenant-Colonel of The Denbighshire Rifle Volunteers and Major of The Volunteer Brigade of The Royal Welsh Fusiliers.
Edward Manners (born Knaresborough, Yorks 1830- died Wrexham 1911).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.

William Henry Heywood (born Wrexham 1845- died Wrexham 1904).
James Llewellyn Heywood (born Wrexham 1848- died Wrexham 1876).
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Thomas Walker (born Southam, Warwickshire 1843- Died Wrexham 1904).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Frederick Page (born Poulton, Gloucestershire 1825 died Llangollen 1910).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Rumley Charles Godfrey (born Horringer Cum Ickworth 1825- died London 1893).
Captain in HM Indian Army and subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Joseph Clark (born Bromfield, Cumberland 1804- died Wrexham 1881).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Joseph Wilbraham Clark (born Wrexham 1840- died Wrexham 1877).
Ensign 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers.
Robert Henry Clark (born Wrexham 1836- died Wrexham 1868).
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Albert Bury (born Wrexham 1842- died Seaforth, Liverpool 1878)
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
John Whittaker (born Shropshire 1828- died Llangollen 1883).
Wrexham Yeomanry Cavalry and Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers.

Nehemiah Humphreys (born Erbistock, Marchwiel 1843- died Leeds 1885).
Corporal 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Alexander Fyfe (born Farnworth, Lancashire 1846- died Wrexham 1871).
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers.
Charles Fyfe born (born Farnworth, Lancashire 1848- died Wrexham 1870)
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
William Charles Zachary (born Allington 1847- died Cape Town SA 1918
Edwin Alfred Cross (born Wrexham 1848- died Old Colwyn 1924).
James Armstrong (born Isle of Man 1828- died Farndon, Cheshire 1875).
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Edmund Leeming (born Birkenhead 1846- died Chester 1897).
Michael Manion (born Galway, Ireland 1840- died Wrexham 1904).
Corporal 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers.
Thomas Buchannan Taylor (born Wrexham 1847- died Wrexham 1929).
William Robert Creech (born Fordington Dorset1848- died Sturminster Newton 1871)

Edward Lovatt (born Wrexham 1824- died Wrexham 1886)
Captain, later Sergeant-Major 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
George Warburton (born Bangor is y Coed 1825 died Gresford 1876).
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
James Lindop- (born Wrexham 1821- died Wrexham 1883).
Robert Daniel Luck (born Norwich 1841- died Wrexham 1870).
George William Wicker (born Portsea Hampshire 1840- died Lewisham 1922).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Edwin Swynfen Bellyse (born Audlem, Cheshire 1844- died Nantwich 1877).
Ensign 7th (Chirk) Rifle Volunteers
Tom Lee Bellyse (born Adderley, Shropshire 1846- died Audlem 1868).
Mortimer Bache Maurice (born Chester 1848- died Stafford 1875).
1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Arthur Hill Maurice (born Chester 1846- died Cardiff 1917).
Lieutenant 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Edward Plant (born Tipton, Staffs 1844- died Tipton 1915).

Thomas Arthur Corlett Milligan (born Liverpool 1837- died Ruthin 1911)
George Bate (born Wrexham 1848- died London 1935).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
John Ollerhead (born Wrexham 1825- died Wrexham 1888).
Sergeant 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
John Faulkner Edgerley (born Shrewsbury 1823- died Saffron Walden, Essex 1890).
Subscriber to the 7th (Chirk) Rifle Volunteers and 1st (Wrexham) Rifle Volunteer funds.
Edward Downes Jones (born Marchwiel 1845- died Wrexham 1920).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Frederick Charles Richards (born Wrexham 1848- died Wrexham 1897)
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers.
William Wheatland Jeffrey (born Folkestone, Kent 1844- died Hastings, Sussex 1912)
Reverend Humphrey Humphreys (born Llanynys 1842- died Henllan 1930).
William Townshend (born Sehore, India 1849- died Kirkby Mallory, Leics 1923).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Edward Hunter Townshend (born Sehore, India 1848- died Gold Coast, Ghana 1873).
Lieutenant 16th (Bedfordshire) Regiment of Foot.

Hanmer Hilton Jones (born Elesmere 1842- died Oswestry1935).
Thomas Price (born Dolgelley 1842- died Dolgelley 1932).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers.
Evan Henry Jones (born Liverpool 1843- died Liverpool 1902).
Private in 5th Gwersylt Rifle Volunteers and subscriber to 1st (Wrexham) and 5th (Gwersylt) Rifle Volunteer funds.
Charles Henry Greville (born Northampton 1842- died Wrexham 1894).
Frank Hardcastle ‘later MP’ (born Tonge with Haulgh, Lancs 1844- died London 1908).
Edward Hardcastle (born Tonge with Haulgh, Lancs 1842- died Nantwich 1877).
Cornet, later Lieutenant Denbighshire Yeomanry Cavalry.
Reverend Edmond Sellon (born Grosmont, Monmouthshire 1839- died Christchurch, Hampshire 1896).
Melville Sellon (born Grosmont, Monmouthshire 1839- died Brightwater, New Zealand 1880).
Frank Bond (born Handsworth, Birmigham 1847- died Bexhill-on sea 1930).
Later enlisted in the 4th Dragoon Guards.
Joseph Lindop Pembrey- (born Overton, Flintshire 1842- died Overton 1868).

Samuel Sharp ‘freelance professional Cricketer’ (born Ruddington Nottinghamshire 1839- died Ruddington 1924).
William Turner (born Wrexham 1837- died Wrexham 1879).
Corporal 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
George Charles Griffiths (born Wrexham 1825- died Wrexham 1878).
Denbighshire Yeomanry Cavalry and subscriber to Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Edward Hughes Parry (born Denbighshire 1840- died Llangollen 1868).
Private, later Lieutenant 9th (Llangollen) Rifle Volunteers.
John Frederick Fleetcroft (born Chester 1830- died Chester 1916).
Colour Sergeant 1st Wrexham rifle volunteers.
William Mc Culloch (born Coxhoe, Durham 1840- died Gresford 1914).
William D Pallin (born Tarvin, Cheshire 1839- died Atcham, Shrops. 1911).
Robert Platt (born Houghton, Warrington 1842- died Pontblyddyn 1871)
Surgeon 1st Flintshire Rifle Volunteers
William Hughes (born Ruthin 1823- died Wrexham 1893)
Private 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers.
Joseph Jackson (born Wrexham 1846- Died Newcastle upon Tyne 1927)

John William Jones (born Denbigh 1832- died Wrexham 1887)
Bandmaster Denbighshire Rifle Militia (Wrexham) and Bandmaster 1st (Wrexham) Rifle Volunteers.
William Bellingham (born Hackney, London 1829- died Surrey 1912
Proprietor of the Wrexham Telegraph and subscriber to 1st (Wrexham) Rifle Volunteer funds
Thomas Williams (Born Wrexham 1814- died Wrexham 1879)
Frederick Herbert Heywood (born Wrexham 1850- died Wrexham 1872).
Ceasar Richard Brancker (born Rock Ferry, Birkenhead 1845 – died Heswall, Cheshire 1933).
Subscriber to Denbighshire Rifle Volunteer funds.
Joseph Salmon (born Huntington. Cheshire 1838- died Farndon, Cheshire 1907)
Urban Rufus Bradshaw (born Rhyl 1849- died Salford, Lancs 1913)

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Yeaman Strachan (born Carse of Gowrie, Scotland 1830- died Wrexham 1891).
Nicholas Stuart Scotcher (born Welshpool 1814- died Surbiton, Surrey 1903).
Subscriber to 1st (Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds).
Sir Robert Alfred Cunliffe. (born Patna, Bihar State. India- 1839 died London 1905)
(Elected as a new vice-president of the DCCC in early 1865)
Former Lietenant and Captain in the Scots Fusilier Guards (retired 1862) and later to become the Lietenant- Colonel of the Royal Denbighshire Militia and Honorary Colonel of the 3rd Battalion of the Royal Welsh Fusiliers
Henry Warwick Harrop (born Altrincham 1840- died Bowdon, Altrincham Cheshire 24 June 1883
Colour Sergeant 5th Gwersylt Rifle Volunteers
Charles Salusbury Mainwairing 'later JP' (born Marchwiel 1845- died St Asaph 1920).
Lieutenant Denbighshire Yeomanry Cavalry and later to become Major, and then Colonel of the 1st Denbighshire Volunteer Battalion of the 23rd Royal Welsh Fusiliers.



President and Vice Presidents of the Denbighshire County Cricket Club when the football club was founded in 1864.


Sir Watkin Williams Wynn, MP (born London 1820- died Wynnstay 1885).
Lieutenant 1st Regiment of Life Guards (Cavalry 1842) later to become founder/Patron and Lieutenant-Colonel of the Denbighshire Rifle Volunteers
Townshend Mainwairing, MP (born Ellesmere, Shrops 1807- died Trefnant 1883).
Major 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Thomas Lloyd Fitzhugh, JP (born London 1819- died Wrexham 1895).
[B]Served in the Foot Guards and the Denbighshire Yeomanry Cavalry as well as the Royal Denbighshire Rifle Militia.He was a subscriber to the 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Samuel Pearce Hope, JP (born Liverpool 1823- died Marchwiel 1880).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Edmund ‘Ethelston’ Peel, JP (born Devon 1826 died Lucerne, Switz 1903).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds
Archibald Peel, JP (born London 1828- died Broxbourne, Herts 1910).
Cornet Denbighshire Yeomanry Cavalry and subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Michael Humble ‘Magistrate’ (born Liverpool 1795- died Gwersylt 1870).
Founder and Administrator to the 5th (Gwersylt) Rifle Volunteers
Thomas Edgeworth ‘1st Mayor’ ‘Magistrate’ (born Marchwiel 1805- died Marchwiel 1868).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Lord Arthur Edwin Hill-Trevor, MP (born Co Down, Ireland 1819- died London 1894).
Subscriber to 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteer funds.
Captain Boscowen Trevor Griffith-Boscowen JP (born Chester 1835- died Rosset 1904).
1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Captain Daniel McCoy ‘Magistrate’ (born Southsea, Portsmouth 1821- died London 1891).
Royal Denbighshire Rifle Militia (Wrexham) and 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Captain Simon York, JP (born Erddig 1811- died Erddig 1894.
1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers
Lieutenant-Colonel Roger William Henry Palmer, MP (born Chester 1832 died Wrexham 1910). Captain in 1st Wrexham Rifle Volunteers- Later to be Lieutenant General Sir Roger William Henry Palmer of the 20th Hussars: he was one of the survivors of ‘The Charge of The Light Brigade’ at The Battle of Balaclava in 1854.


The Bromfield Volunteer Rifle Corps was initially formed of 2 companies (Wrexham and Ruabon) in 1859, but was later expanded to incorporate another 7 companies from the surrounding area, to form The Denbighshire Volunteer Rifles.

On 23rd July 1859, The Wrexham Advertiser reported-


‘VOLUNTEER RIFLE CORPS,- -Several meetings have recently taken place for the purpose of deliberating upon certain matters of detail connected with the Bromfield Volunteer Rifle Corps. The dress has been decided upon, which, together with the rifle, &c, may be seen in Mr John Clark's window. The practice ground has also been fixed upon, Sir Watkin having placed a suitable plot of ground in Wynnstay Park at the service of the corps; There is to be a Wrexham and Ruabon company, and they are to be drilled by the staff of the Royal Denbigh Rifles- an order to that effect having come down from government’.



In the same column, the newspaper also reported-

WILBRAHAM ON CRICKET AND RIFLE CLUBS. - Col. Wilbraham, the officer who lately reviewed the Royal Denbigh Rifles, has addressed the following letter to the public through the Manchester Guardian;- “I beg to suggest, through your widely-circulated paper, the expediency of making use of the numerous cricket clubs throughout the country in the formation of Volunteer Rifle Corps. These clubs comprise precisely that portion of our population who would make the best riflemen, viz., active and intelligent young men, quick of eye and hand, fond of manly pursuits, and able without inconvenience to devote an occasional hour to instruction or practice. Each club might form a separate section for the purpose of ordinary drill, while by the union of several adjoining districts efficient companies might be made up, possessing the great advantage of all their members being acquainted with each other. This plan has been already tried to a certain extent in an adjoining county, and with considerable success."

https://newspapers.library.wales/vie...73/4587177/33/

Colonel Richard Wilbraham of The Royal Fusiliers would later become Adjutant- General of the Northern District of The Volunteer Rifle Corps.




I would hope that these posts and those on the preceding pages would help to clarify the circumstances that led to the formation of Wrexham Football and Athletic Club, and also explain (imo) how football became a working-class game in the latter half of the 19th Century.

There is no official documentation that has survived to tell us precisely how many people were involved in the formation of Wrexham Football Club in 1864, although we do know that the birth of the club was initiated by a speech that was made by Edward Manners, on behalf of the members of Denbighshire County Cricket Club, after the last match of the cricket season on the 4th of October 1864. We also know from newspaper reports that membership to the cricket club was attained by means of a subscription fee, which also originally served as a membership to the football club, after its inception in October 1864.
There were, however, a number of newspaper articles in 1865, which stated that the football club had ‘upwards of 100 members’ although, as I have explained in earlier posts, this figure appears to have been the combined membership of the cricket club and the football and athletic club.
My research would indicate that, aside from spectators, there were around 140 people who were involved, to varying degrees, in the cricket club and the football and athletic club at that time, although there were also a number of freelance professionals who were paid a fee to play cricket for the county club, and there were also cricketers from outside of the area who were sometimes invited to play for the county club, as guests. And so I imagine that these individuals would have been regarded as honorary members who did not have to pay a membership subscription. This leads me to believe that the figure of 100+ members of the football club (as recorded in the newspapers) was comprised of about 130 members (including junior members) who were paying an annual subscription to Denbighshire County Cricket Club in 1865.
Many of those subscriptions were collected by Rumley Charles Godfrey- the joint honorary secretary, and I believe that the subscription fee entitled the members to play for both, Denbighshire County Cricket Club and Wrexham Cricket Club, but also to play for the football club and to compete in the athletic sport competitions that were held on The Racecourse.
In 1865, the football club and the athletic events were still being funded and governed under the administration of Denbighshire County Cricket Club.

The end of the football season in those days was usually marked by an in-house game between members on The Racecourse, before everyone retired to the Turf Hotel for a meal and an end-of-season meeting; which initiated the opening of cricket season.
Many of the members played in both- the cricket teams and the football team, at different times, as well as competing in the athletic sport events that were held on The Racecourse.
Most of the members were soldiers or volunteers in the rifle force, while some were also insurance clerks and volunteers in the fire brigade. Many of the older members were also former soldiers, who helped to fund the volunteers through subscriptions.

I have now identified 105 individuals who were involved in the formation of the football club from 1864 through to October 1865, as it would seem that some of these individuals may have subscribed after the football club was formed in October 1864, but before the football season ended and the new cricket season started on 29th April 1865. I have also compiled a list of the remaining individuals, whose identities, I have not yet been able to confirm and I will update the list, as and when, I find the relevant information.
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In 1864, Wrexham Cricket Club/Denbighshire County Cricket Club collected £63 in subscription fees and in 1865 subscriptions amounted to £70; although the club also received additional funds in the form of donations from the President and the Vice-Presidents, in particular.
The amount of money collected in subscriptions fees at that time suggests that membership was charged at 10shillings per season(possibly half for juniors) although the membership fees for the DCCC later increased to 1 Guinea (20 shillings) per season, but were reduced back down to 10 shillings in 1870. By that time, the football club was being governed under its own administration, which collected its own membership subscriptions.

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