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Old 23rd December 2015, 14.32:31   #19-0 (permalink)
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It just makes you laugh. 2nd game 1863-1864 Braintree game off due to waterlogged pitch. Nothing changes, Wrexham v Braintree 2015 Friday 18th Dec. off due to waterlogged pitch!!!!!
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Thomas Hanmer was another trophy winner in the first athletics event arranged by the newly formed Football club on 13th May 1865, and he also had previously played in our first ever game against The Prince of Wales Fire Brigade on 22nd October 1864.
There are no records to show that Thomas was married or that he had any children, but the consensus of 1881 reported that Thomas was a licensed victualler aged 42, who was born in Overton, in 1839
His father Thomas Hanmer (snr) was born circa 1807.

Records taken from Pigot & Co. Directory (1828/29; 1835; 1844) and Slater's Directory (1883) show that Thomas Hanmer was the Licenced Victualler of The Talbot in Brook Street, Rhosllannerchrugog in 1880 Clwyd FHS - Historic Ruabon Inns
and Thomas Hanmer was also the Licensed Victualler of The Alexandra in Yorke Street in 1883 Clwyd FHS - Historic Wrexham Inns
This may have been a family profession as the directories also recorded that James or Jane Hanmer was the Licensed Victualler of The Greyhound in Holt Road (Slater 1868).
There is, however, another link with the family profession, which specifically links Thomas Hanmer (1839) and his father, eternally to the club
On 9th November 1867, The Wrexham Advertiser, Births Deaths and Marriages reported that ‘On the 2nd inst (02 October) at the Turf Hotel, Wrexham, Mr Thomas Hanmer (snr) died aged 60 years’.

Almost 20 years later, on the 25th March 1887, The Wrexham Advertiser, Births Deaths and Marriages reported ‘Died March 14th, aged 48, at the Turf Hotel, Wrexham, Thomas Hanmer, son of the late Mr. Thos. Hanmer’.

Slaters Trade Directory records show that the landlords of The Turf Hotel at the time where Richard and Martha Hanmer.

Thomas Hanmer 1839-1887

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Edward Ephraim Knibbs was born in Cheshire 1837, the son of John and Susanah.
Records suggest that he was a waiter in Wrexham from a very early age, but later became a general dealer and auctioneer, located at 12 High Street Wrexham.
Edward married Emma Price from Birkenhead in 1863, and the Wrexham Advertiser reported that his wife gave birth to a daughter (Emma) on 12th March 1864, but his wife was to die, due to complications after giving birth to their 2nd daughter, who also died shortly afterwards, in 1865.
Edward was a regular player in the Denbighshire County Cricket Club and was a steward for several events at The Racecourse. WREXHAM AUTUMN SPORTS. )|1867-10-26|Wrexham and Denbighshire Advertiser and Cheshire Shropshire and North Wales Register - Welsh Newspapers Online
He also played in our first ever game on 22nd October 1864
[No title]|1864-10-29|Wrexham and Denbighshire Advertiser and Cheshire Shropshire and North Wales Register - Welsh Newspapers Online

Edward died 23rd August 1875 and was buried at The Ruthin Road Cemetery

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Just noticed that in the opening post (sergeant William Tootell), I had recorded the date of our first ever game as 15th October 1864. This was a typo. Our first ever game was Saturday 22 October 1864.

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Charles Edward Kershaw was elected to serve on the Wrexham Board of Guardians (a union to aid the poor) for the district of Broughton in 1863, and there are many other newspaper references of the day regarding his community and civic endeavours
In addition, the following link states that he served as a steward and secretary for various events at the racecourse- WREXHAM AUTUMN SPORTS. )|1867-10-26|Wrexham and Denbighshire Advertiser and Cheshire Shropshire and North Wales Register - Welsh Newspapers Online although there are many other online newspaper references relating to his involvement in the activities at The Racecourse during the 1860’s, including winning a pewter cup in the first athletics event after the founding of the football club. He also played cricket for The Denbighshire County Cricket Club.
Charles was also a volunteer in The Prince of Wales Fire Brigade, but he would play for the newly formed Wrexham Athletic Football club, when a team of his colleagues from the Fire Brigade visited the Racecourse for the football clubs fist ever game in October 1864.
There are a number of references to suggest that Charles was an accountant and he is recorded as living at 2 Derby Road, Hightown, but later moved to Salisbury Park.
His wife’s name was Anna Maria, although there are no surving records of her birth/death or marriage; however, there is a baptism entry in the Clwyd names registry which states “KERSHAW; 8 Aug 1872 bap/o Alfred Ollivant Hyde s/o Charles Edward (acct) & Anna Maria, High Town”.
The family are believed to have moved to Merseyside as Allfred Ollivant Hyde Kershaw was later recorded as living in Aintree, Liverpool, and on the 2nd January 1885, The Obituaries in The Wrexham Advertiser reported that Charles Edward Kershaw had died in Southport aged 45 years on 27th December 1884

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The person most associated with the founding of Wrexham football club, was not a native of the area.
Edward Manners was born, the son of John Manners and Ann (Mathewson) in Knaresborough, Yorkshire, in 1830, although he would later move to Truro in Cornwall where he married Eliza Rolles Williams in 1854.
While in Truro, his wife gave birth to three children; - Edward John (1855) Charles William (1857) and Frederick James (1858).
During this period, Edward was employed by W Brunton& Co, a fuse manufacturer who supplied safety fuses for blasting to the mining industries, and his role in this company would lead to him being transferred to another of the companies’ fuse works at Brymbo in 1860, where he would become a manager.
Records of the time show that he was living at 26 Regent Street, Wrexham.
Shortly after arriving in Wrexham, Edward had become an influential member of Wrexham Cricket Club (later to be named Denbighshire County Cricket Club) a club at which, he would later be elected as the honourable secretary.
HE was highly regarded by his peers, and in particular for his efforts associated with the Cricket Club, but also as a co-ordinator and clerk of the course for pony race meetings, as well as establishing and organising athletics and other sporting events at the Racecourse. However, it was his role in founding a Football Club that would be his greatest legacy to the Town of Wrexham.
An article in The Wrexham Advertiser 8th October 1864 recorded that club secretary Edward Manners had announced his intentions, during a speech at the end of season Dinner, at The Turf Hotel, following Denbighshire County Cricket Clubs last match of the season on 4th October 1864.
“There is one thing, gentlemen. I wish to name the great want of amusement in this town in winter time. It is my intention to purchase a football in the course of this week, and I shall expect a good many down to the field next Saturday. There are other games I should like to introduce, especially a Yorkshire one called knur and spell, a very nice game. It was only yesterday I called upon the Mayor and he said he should like to see an athletic club established in Wrexham. If we have athletic sports and cannot obtain a room suitable for holding them in we can have them on the green”
DENBIGHSHIRE COUNTY CRICKET CLUB.|1864-10-08|Wrexham and Denbighshire Advertiser and Cheshire Shropshire and North Wales Register - Welsh Newspapers Online
Ann Manners gave birth to a daughter- Annie Eliza, at Regent Street in 1867, but their eldest son Edward John Manners died aged 18, in October 1873: Ann would die, just 5 years later in the summer of 1878. Soon after, Edward moved to 17 Hill Street, Wrexham
In 1880 Edward became Hon Secretary for the Football Association of Wales; a role he would keep for around two years, until his resignation due to work commitments as a commercial traveller for the recently formed Wrexham Lager Beer Company.
England 0 Wales 1
International Friendly Match
26 February 1881

Thomas HindleDarwen (Hon. secretary Lancashire FA) &
Edward Manners Wales (Hon. secretary Welsh FA).
Referee - Segar R. Bastard


Edward died at the age 81, in July 1911

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17 Town Hill is Honky Tonks. Unless some re numbering or building has taken place. It used to be a classy building.
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