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5th June 2018, 14.04:31 | #532-0 (permalink) |
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Re: The sad case of a founding members and player of Wrexham Football Club (Massive history thread!)
Such information might not seem to have much relevance in a sport dominated by glamour clubs that have a £500 million annual turn over, but when you look back to where it all started, WFAC ' and those fields off Crispin Lane' were there from the offset and have persisted through to this day, unlike many of the other pioneer clubs who fell by the way.
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9th June 2018, 22.30:05 | #533-0 (permalink) | |
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Robert Williams, brother of the first Sir Watkin Williams-Wynn, lived at ‘The Crispin Anna’ for a number of years in the 1730’s. Later described as a genteel cottage with outbuildings, plantations and land measuring seven acres and thirty three perches, Bryn y llyn was advertised for sale in The Chester Chonicle in August 1828, along with around 17 acres of adjoining land. The property was located on the embankment of Wat’s Dyke, on the town side of Crispin Lane, opposite the far end of the kop, although some of the outbuildings were demolished when navvies first cut the embankment for railway lines from the 1840’s, with the cottage and stables finally being knocked down, sometime after 1867. The field in which the property stood, was at different times, known as Crispin’s field and another field on the north side of The Racecourse, was called ‘Crispin’s Meadow’. The earliest reference to a substantial house in the immediate area of The Crispin, that I have found, is shown on Ogilby’s Road map (previously posted) which was surveyed sometime prior to 1675. Crispin cottages was also the collective name given to a cul-de-sac of 44 small cottages that occupied Ashfield Road, Nelson Terrace and Windsor Road, which faced onto Crispin Lane between The Racecourse and Ashfield House. Built in the early to mid 19th Century, the cottages were demolished in the mid to late 19th Century. Another property that was briefly known as Crispin Cottage was found next to The Crispin Smithy, in the apex of the triangle at the base of Stansty Park, where Summerhill Road used to meet Mold Road, prior to the construction of the current Mold Road interchange. This property, which was the family residence of district surveyor- John Strachan, was enlarged in the 1870’s and renamed ‘Crispin Lodge’. The field in which this lodge was sited, was known as ‘Crispin Meadow’ and directly opposite, on the Plas Coch side of Mold Road, was another grassland, known as ‘Crispin Field’. This area was generally known as ‘The Crispin’ at the end of the 19th Century. Further along Mold Road, opposite Stansty Chain Road was a tavern called ‘The Crispin Inn’, which was recorded on Ogilby’s Road map (published 1675) and subsequent 17th Century road maps, as well as early 18th Century documents. According to Palmer, the tavern had previously been a farmhouse that belonged to the Edwards family, called ‘Plas Ucha’ (1620) and he suggested that the name ‘Crispin Inn’ was a corruption of the Latin ‘Crispiniene’ as recorded in the Stansty Parish register of 1695. However, Ogiby’s road map was produced in English, so even if the parish register entry had been corrupted; the same could not also be applied to Ogilby’s survey. Palmer further suggested that the Crispin connection may have been derived from John ap John of Stansty, who was recorded in 1615 as a weaver, and in 1619, as a shoemaker. He added that John ap John may have been related to the Edwards’s and as St Crispin was the patron saint of shoemakers, he might have provided the Crispin link to the area, although he also stated ‘I cannot prove this conjecture, for conjecture only it is, to be true, but it is the only explanation I can offer.’ Last edited by eastsussexred; 9th June 2018 at 22.37:38.. |
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10th June 2018, 10.44:52 | #535-0 (permalink) | |
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The British Library holds at least 2 manuscripts relating to David ap Meilir’s purchase of land in Stansty. 1. A grant by- Lorwerth ap Lorwerth ap Madoc to David ap Meiler et Lorwerth filio suo of a messuage in Stansty abbattis in loco qui dicitur grofyd yr ynys. A grant by Lorweth of Lorwerh of Madog to David of Meilir and Lorweth (his son) of land and buildings in Stansty in the place which is called the island of 'grofyd'? (possibly 'Gruffydd' of Rhuddalt- who was Lord of Powys in 1317). 2. A grant of- yr Erw duy inter viam que ducit de Rosduy versus clawdd Wade in Stansti Issa. A grant of approximately two acres of land and a road which leads from Rhosddu to Wat’s Dyke in Lower Stansty. Last edited by eastsussexred; 10th June 2018 at 10.56:15.. |
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1st July 2018, 12.11:58 | #536-0 (permalink) | |
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The additional works included the erection of a new betting ring, and a weighing room and offices for race officials in The Turf Tavern. The Tavern had briefly been renamed as The Grandstand from the end of the 1840's through to 1851. This might have been done to promote a fund which had been started by race officials, to rise money for the construction of the new permanent stand. The stand was completed, just as the the church had raised its efforts to have the annual races stopped, with local clergy writing in local newspapers in 1855 and petitioning the council, who in-turn sent a request to Sir W.W. Wynn to have the races stopped. W.W.Wynn pulled the plug in 1857, although a much smaller meeting also took place in 1858, before officials decided to abandon the idea in 1859. The races gradually re-appeared in a new format, initially with donkey and Pony racing added to the The Autumn Athletic Sports meetings, at the end of the 1860's, but the races were finally revived in 1873 Last edited by eastsussexred; 1st July 2018 at 12.18:43.. |
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1st July 2018, 12.17:32 | #537-0 (permalink) | |
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Great work as always ESR. |
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