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Yes, I have checked and can confirm that it is another first for the club Jonesfach.

In the summer of 1906, Robert 'Bobby' Ernest Evans signed for Aston Villa for a fee of £30, which WAFC shared with the player, and Edwin Hughes, who also signed for Nottingham Forest in 1906 recieved half of the fee too.
These payments were in breach of English FA regulations who then banned Wrexham Football Club from their Association in October 1906, although Wrexham appealed on the grounds that the Welsh FA permitted the sharing of transfer funds.
The English FA then wrote to the Welsh FA before holding a meeting on 10th December 1906, when they upheld their decision to ban Wrexham Football Club from The English Association.
The ban was soon lifted, though, and The English FA subsequently permitted the sharing of fees, although in 1911, Sunderland paid a record £1,200 for Charlie Buchan, who then complained that he only recieved a £10 signing on fee. However transfer fees continued to rise and in 1913 Danny Shea of West Ham United moved to Blackburn Rovers for a new record transfer fee of £2000, of which, Shea was reported to have pocketed £550.
Soon after, football clubs began to complain that players were engineering transfers in order to obtain large signing-on fees and so in 1920 The English FA altered the rules again so that players were no longer permitted to recieve a share of the fee.
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Thanks, I must have missed that one.
It was reported in The Yorkshire Telegraph and The Dundee Telegraph RR. Attachments are on page 27 of the thread
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As confirmed by Alfred Neobard Palmer, Richard Williams (the brother of the first Sir Watkin Williams Wynn) lived at the property known as The Crispin, on Crispin Lane, during the 1730's. He would later become an MP for Flint and he also inherited the Penbedw Estate (Nannerch).
Ogilbys Road map of 1675 (previously attached) had shown that The Crispin was a substantial property in the region, at least on par with Plas Coch, but the entire area had previously been named after the Crispin, including the land that The Racecourse was built on, as shown on the map from 1793-95 (attached).
Richard Williams of Penbedw died at Oswestry in 1759, but an artcle in the Shrewsbury Chronicle of 1774 (attached) confirmed that he had been a breeder of hunt and race horses 'The above mare was called Vendecea and bred by the late Richard Williams Esq of Penbedw' and that he was still being credited with his stud, some 15 years after his death.
The property known as The Crispin was known to still have stables in the mid 19th Century, when it was demolished, but Richard Williams occupancy of the the property during the 1730's also makes it likely that he was breeding horses on Crispin Lane, as he was a man of means; landed gentry who was a member of the two most powerful and wealthy families in Wales (the Williams's and the Wynn's). When added to this, the fact that The London Evening Post were advertising The Wrexham Races on the 'new Course' in 1739, while Richard Williams lived at The Crispin, and the William's Wynn's were promoting the races, then it seems probable that it was Richard Williams who bought horseracing to those fields off Crispin Lane, some 70 years before Sir Watkin Williams Wynn (4th Bart) was credited with building Y Cae Ras.
Confirmation that Richard Williams had been a well known breeder of racehorses. The horse as mentioned above 'Vendecea; had previously won the whip at Newmarket and various other prizes (attached).
In 'The History of The Thirteen Country Townships of The Old Parish of Wrexham' Alfred Neobard Palmer stated ' In 1731, and for some years later, Robert Williams Esq, brother of The first Sir Watkin Williams-Wynn lived at The Crispin'.
In 1728, Richard Williams had married Charlotte Mostyn- daughter and co heiress of the estate of Richard Mostyn of Penbedw.
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Confirmation that Richard Williams had been a well known breeder of racehorses. The horse as mentioned above 'Vendecea; had previously won the whip at Newmarket and various other prizes (attached).
In 'The History of The Thirteen Country Townships of The Old Parish of Wrexham' Alfred Neobard Palmer stated ' In 1731, and for some years later, Robert Williams Esq, brother of The first Sir Watkin Williams-Wynn lived at The Crispin'.
In 1728, Richard Williams had married Charlotte Mostyn- daughter and co heiress of the estate of Richard Mostyn of Penbedw.
The youngest brother of the first Sir Watkin Williams-Wynn, Richard Williams inherited the title of the estate of Penbedw when he married Charlotte Mostyn- the daughter and co heiress of Richard Mostyn of Penbedw, in 1728, although as AN Palmer had stated, they did not initially take up residence at Penbedw Hall, but lived at The Crispin, on Crispin Lane throughout the 1730's. In 1734, Richard Williams of Penbedw was declared The High Sheriff of Denbishire, and according to the thoroughbred stud book index at Thoroughbred bloodlines.net, he also bought a thoroughbred called 'Flintshire Lady' around this time, which he ran in the 'West of England'
Charlotte Williams died in 1739 and two years later, Richard married Annabella Lloyd- daughter and heiress of Charles Lloyd of The Drenewydd Estate, Shropshire; he was also elected MP for Flint, the same year.
In 1747, Richard Williams was elected Mayor of Oswestry, where he died on 12th April 1759.
His name appears to have been well established in horseracing circles, and thoughout the 1750's, 60's and 70's, a number of London newspapers were advertising thoroughbred race-horses with pedigrees that stretched back to the Richard Williams stables.

The house known as The Crispin still had stables and outbuildings when it was finally demolished by WM&CQR in the 1860's, although different parts of the property appear to have been demolished previously, most likely due to the advancement of the mineral railways, from the 1830's. But in its day, The Crispin would have been one of the major houses of the region, and while its date of construction is not known, Ogilby's road map (previously attached) shows a mansion was already in existence in the precise location of The Crispin. in 1675. Moreover, different OS maps from the 19th Century have shown that an entire area, including all of the fields from the railway embankment on Crispin Lane, up to the base of Stansty Park, had at one time. been known as Crispin.
It therefore seems likely that Richard Williams of Penbedw created 'the new racecourse' in tandem with his thoroughbred stables, when he took up residence at The Crispin, on Crispin Lane, in the 1730's. His brother and his family- The Williams-Wynn's also promoted the races from The Three Eagles Inn, and The Wrexham Races were advertised to take place on 'the new course' in The London Evening Post (previously attached) in 1739 and 1740.
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The youngest brother of the first Sir Watkin Williams-Wynn, Richard Williams inherited the title of the estate of Penbedw when he married Charlotte Mostyn- the daughter and co heiress of Richard Mostyn of Penbedw, in 1728, although as AN Palmer had stated, they did not initially take up residence at Penbedw Hall, but lived at The Crispin, on Crispin Lane throughout the 1730's. In 1734, Richard Williams of Penbedw was declared The High Sheriff of Denbishire, and according to the thoroughbred stud book index at Thoroughbred bloodlines.net, he also bought a thoroughbred called 'Flintshire Lady' around this time, which he ran in the 'West of England'
Charlotte Williams died in 1739 and two years later, Richard married Annabella Lloyd- daughter and heiress of Charles Lloyd of The Drenewydd Estate, Shropshire; he was also elected MP for Flint, the same year.
In 1747, Richard Williams was elected Mayor of Oswestry, where he died on 12th April 1759.
His name appears to have been well established in horseracing circles, and thoughout the 1750's, 60's and 70's, a number of London newspapers were advertising thoroughbred race-horses with pedigrees that stretched back to the Richard Williams stables.

The house known as The Crispin still had stables and outbuildings when it was finally demolished by WM&CQR in the 1860's, although different parts of the property appear to have been demolished previously, most likely due to the advancement of the mineral railways, from the 1830's. But in its day, The Crispin would have been one of the major houses of the region, and while its date of construction is not known, Ogilby's road map (previously attached) shows a mansion was already in existence in the precise location of The Crispin. in 1675. Moreover, different OS maps from the 19th Century have shown that an entire area, including all of the fields from the railway embankment on Crispin Lane, up to the base of Stansty Park, had at one time. been known as Crispin.
It therefore seems likely that Richard Williams of Penbedw created 'the new racecourse' in tandem with his thoroughbred stables, when he took up residence at The Crispin, on Crispin Lane, in the 1730's. His brother and his family- The Williams-Wynn's also promoted the races from The Three Eagles Inn, and The Wrexham Races were advertised to take place on 'the new course' in The London Evening Post (previously attached) in 1739 and 1740.
Correction.It was the other brother-Robert Williams of Erbistock(1695-1763) who lived at The Crispin during the 1730's. Robert Williams was the MP for Montgomeryshire 1740-41 and 1742-47. He also held the office of Recorder of Oswestry.
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For the last 2+ years, I have been searching for the origin of the name ‘Crispin’ as per Crispin Lane, and believe that I have now found a source which may finally end this centuries-old-mystery.

Alfred Neobard Palmer had first identified a farmhouse called The Crispin, owned by the Ambrose Lewis Family, in an area that he termed ‘Lower Crispin’ which he found in parish registers, under the Latin name of ‘Crispianus’ in 1699 and 1700, and ‘Crispin Anna’ in 1731, and 1777. He also found another farmhouse at an area he termed ‘Upper Crispin’ owned by the Edwards’s of Stansty, which in 1620 was known as ‘Plas Ucha’, but at the end of the 17th Century was called ‘The Crispin Inn’. In the parish register of 1695 the inn was called ‘Crispinienne’ and he deduced that this was a corruption of ‘Crispinian’ (The farmhouse in Lower Crispin was on, what we now know as Crispin Lane and the farmhouse at Upper Crispin was on the Mold Road side of Stansty Park). The Crispin Inn was also identified in 17th Century travel books and Ogilby’s Road Map of 1675. Palmer had noted that both of these properties came to be known as The Crispin toward the end of the 17th Century and he postulated that the name of the latter farm may have been derived from an ancient guild of shoemakers (St Crispin was the Patron Saint of Shoemakers) although no guild was ever found, and he later stated that it may have been derived from a ‘John ap John of Stansty, a shoemaker in 1619, who in 1615, was called a weaver’ but he added ‘I cannot prove this conjecture, for conjecture only it is, to be true, but it is the only explanation I have to offer’.
Likewise, Palmer could not offer any explanation as to why two properties, in different locations, and owned by different families would each share the same name; however, there is link to both of these properties, and each family, which may be precisely dated to the end of the 17th Century.


The farmhouse known as The Crispin, on Crispin Lane, had been owned by the Ambrose Lewis family of Wrexham, since before 1704 until the year 1820.
Ambrose Lewis was a 17th Century Puritan preacher and schoolmaster of Wrexham Grammar School who had married Catherine, daughter and co heiress of Roger Davies of Erlas Hall. He owned much property in Wrexham and lived in a large house at the top of Hope Street, opposite Bryn-y-ffynnon, but like many others in Wrexham at this time, his Puritan stance bought him into conflict with the authorities.
Puritans were Protestants in the 16th and 17th centuries who sought to purify the Church of England of Roman Catholic practices, maintaining that the Church of England had not been fully reformed, but The Act of Uniformity, which came into effect in 1662, accomplished the purpose of expelling Puritanism from the Church. Those who did not conform to the doctrines and practices of the established Church of England were persecuted and termed Nonconformists, or Dissenters. Puritanism was obnoxious to King Charles II. his court and a large majority of the men high in office in both Church and State, and Ambrose Lewis was brought before his old pupil- Lord George Jeffreys of Acton (the hanging judge) on spurious charges of a Puritan plot. Subsequently, Ambrose Lewis was forced to conform to the Parliamentary Acts affecting the Nonconformists, as he would have had his license as a schoolmaster rebuked, if he had not done so, although he later continued to worship with Presbyterians and sometimes resumed his earlier function of preaching. But in the name of one of his properties we may possibly find a link to his earlier puritan stance.


Crispianism was a term applied to those who supported the fifty-two sermons of the radical Puritan Dr Tobias Crisp 1600-1643, which were published by his friends after his death, in 1643, 1644, 1646 and again by his son- Samuel Crisp, in 1690. Crisp had a popular following amongst London Puritans during his lifetime, but he grew immense fame, popularity and controversy after the posthumous publication of his sermons. The publications caused a fierce contention, known as The Crisp Controversy, which attracted great interest in Wrexham, where ex-Wrexham resident- Dr Daniel Williams (who violently opposed the works of Tobias Crisp) was well known. The controversy initiated much bitterness amongst rivals and sides were freely taken in Wrexham, as elsewhere in the country, from the mid 17th Century; so much so, that over the next hundred years following Crisp’s death, his thought (dubbed ‘Crispianism’ by his critics) remained a strong and contentious system within English and Welsh divinity.
Although he had been forced to conform, Ambrose Lewis may have been signalling his support for the radical Puritan, in the mid to late 17th Century, by naming his property ‘The Crispin’. Likewise, different members of the Edwards family of Stansty had very strong links to the Puritan cause in the mid to late 17th Century. The surname was first stabilized by Puritan John Edwards (1573 - 1635) son of David ab Edward; his executorship of the will under which his neighbour Sir William Meredith established a lectureship at Wrexham, suggests Puritan leanings, which reappeared in a number of his descendants. John Edwards’s daughter-Margaret was an ardent disciple of Morgan Lloyd, who had fought for the Puritan Parliamentary forces during the first and second Civil Wars. Religion had played a major part in The English Civil Wars, as the government's persecution of Puritans meant that the vast majority of Puritans supported Parliament, whereas most Anglicans and Catholics tended to favour the royalists.
Margaret married another devout Puritan- Colonel John Jones ‘the regicide’ who was one of the 57 commissioners that signed the death warrant authorising the execution of Charles I, following his trial in December 1648. Colonel Jones’s troop had partially been recruited from this region, and a garrison of Parliamentary forces was known to have been established on John Edwards land in Stansty, in 1645.
Margaret Edwards died in 1651, and the Colonel was remarried to the sister of Oliver Cromwell in1657, but he was later sheltered for a while at the house of John Edwards in Stansty, after the Restoration of the monarchy in 1660: Colonel John Jones was one of only a few people who were excluded from the general amnesty on the Restoration of the Monarchy and he was captured in London in June of that year and sent to The Tower of London before he was executed by being hanged, drawn and quartered at Charing Cross on 17th October 1660.
Fifteen years later, The Crispin Inn was listed on Ogilby’s Road map (previously attached) and while there is no definitive evidence to show that Ambrose Lewis or any of the Edwards’s were supporters of Dr Tobias Crisp, they were undoubtedly, fully aware of the intense contention, relating to Crispianism, when their two properties appear to have adopted the name ‘Crispin’ in the mid to late 17th Century.

Ambrose Lewis died in 1689, and his estate passed to his son- Ambrose Lewis (jnr) who leased The Crispin to the brother of the first Sir Watkin Williams-Wynn- Robert Williams MP from 1731 ‘and for a few years after’. In A History of the Town of Wrexham (1893) Palmer stated that Ambrose Lewis (jnr) lived at a house in Pentre Felin, called The Castle, but he also owned all of the land between Belle Vue Road, Watery Lane and Wat’s Dyke, including The Bonc, The Red House, a field called ‘Cae Dicas, and another field ‘Sugn y bedol’ (Marsh of the horseshoe) as well as Cae’r cleifion, in Penybryn and the estate called Pwll yr uwdd (Spring Lodge). His son-in-law Ambrose Lewis the third was the last in the male line of this branch of the Lewis family, but he left two daughters- Martha and Eleanor who survived into womanhood. Eleanor married John Lloyd of Gwyrch, curate of Wrexham, although Martha remained unmarried. She and her brother-in-law ultimately sold all of the Ambrose Lewis property in Wrexham, apart from Pwll yr uwdd and Cae’r cleifion, but The Crispin was sold in 1820 to Thomas Durack of Wrexham, who changed its name to Bryn y llyn. In 1828, Bryn y llyn was put up for sale as a freehold estate, consisting of twenty four acres, which was bought by a number of different owners. The land was then dissected and the size of the farmhouse reduced, due to the laying of The North Wales Mineral Railway in the 1830’s, and the Shrewsbury to Chester Railway, with a new General Station in 1845: The Crispin briefly provided a home for the stationmaster of The Wrexham Mold and Connah’s Quay Railway Corporation, before it was finally demolished by the same corporation in the 1860’s. Two fields associated with the farmhouse at Lower Crispin- Crispin Field and Crispin Croft were still being illustrated on tithe maps from the 1880’s with their owners being recorded as Mary Hughes (field) and Sir Watkin Williams-Wynn (Croft) respectively. Tithes for each plot of land were payable to John Foulkes Esq.

The Edwards Estate in Stansty eventually ended when the great-great grandson of John Edwards- Peter Edwards, died without heirs in 1783, and the estate was passed to The Lloyds of Pengwern, before eventually being sold to the iron master- Richard Thompson, who built Stansty Hall in 1830-32. But two fields at Upper Crispin associated with The Crispin Inn were also still being illustrated on tithe maps in the 1880’s- Crispin Meadow was owned by Thomas Penson although no owner has yet been associated with Crispin Field, at this time, though the entire area, from the railway embankment on Crispin Lane up to the base of Stansty Park, including The Racecourse, had been known simply as ‘Crispin’ from at least the mid 18th Century, through to the mid to late 19th Century.

Crispianism was a national religious controversy, which in its day was equally, if not more divisive than the current national political dilemmas that have divided friends and families alike.
In choosing the name of Crispin for their properties at the end of the 17th Century, Ambrose Lewis and members of The Edwards Family would have been only too aware of the controversy, but it appears that they decided to use this controversial name, at this particular time, perhaps as a thinly veiled gesture of their true religious beliefs; hence, the name was soon adopted by locals and applied to the area as a whole.
As Alfred Neobard Palmer had stated- I cannot prove this conjecture, for conjecture only it is, to be true, but it is the only explanation I have to offer, yet there is an undoubted Puritan link between each of the families and their properties which they chose to name ‘Crispin’ at a very specific and contentious period of our history.
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For the last 2+ years, I have been searching for the origin of the name ‘Crispin’ as per Crispin Lane, and believe that I have now found a source which may finally end this centuries-old-mystery.

Alfred Neobard Palmer had first identified a farmhouse called The Crispin, owned by the Ambrose Lewis Family, in an area that he termed ‘Lower Crispin’ which he found in parish registers, under the Latin name of ‘Crispianus’ in 1699 and 1700, and ‘Crispin Anna’ in 1731, and 1777. He also found another farmhouse at an area he termed ‘Upper Crispin’ owned by the Edwards’s of Stansty, which in 1620 was known as ‘Plas Ucha’, but at the end of the 17th Century was called ‘The Crispin Inn’. In the parish register of 1695 the inn was called ‘Crispinienne’ and he deduced that this was a corruption of ‘Crispinian’ (The farmhouse in Lower Crispin was on, what we now know as Crispin Lane and the farmhouse at Upper Crispin was on the Mold Road side of Stansty Park). The Crispin Inn was also identified in 17th Century travel books and Ogilby’s Road Map of 1675. Palmer had noted that both of these properties came to be known as The Crispin toward the end of the 17th Century and he postulated that the name of the latter farm may have been derived from an ancient guild of shoemakers (St Crispin was the Patron Saint of Shoemakers) although no guild was ever found, and he later stated that it may have been derived from a ‘John ap John of Stansty, a shoemaker in 1619, who in 1615, was called a weaver’ but he added ‘I cannot prove this conjecture, for conjecture only it is, to be true, but it is the only explanation I have to offer’.
Likewise, Palmer could not offer any explanation as to why two properties, in different locations, and owned by different families would each share the same name; however, there is link to both of these properties, and each family, which may be precisely dated to the end of the 17th Century.


The farmhouse known as The Crispin, on Crispin Lane, had been owned by the Ambrose Lewis family of Wrexham, since before 1704 until the year 1820.
Ambrose Lewis was a 17th Century Puritan preacher and schoolmaster of Wrexham Grammar School who had married Catherine, daughter and co heiress of Roger Davies of Erlas Hall. He owned much property in Wrexham and lived in a large house at the top of Hope Street, opposite Bryn-y-ffynnon, but like many others in Wrexham at this time, his Puritan stance bought him into conflict with the authorities.
Puritans were Protestants in the 16th and 17th centuries who sought to purify the Church of England of Roman Catholic practices, maintaining that the Church of England had not been fully reformed, but The Act of Uniformity, which came into effect in 1662, accomplished the purpose of expelling Puritanism from the Church. Those who did not conform to the doctrines and practices of the established Church of England were persecuted and termed Nonconformists, or Dissenters. Puritanism was obnoxious to King Charles II. his court and a large majority of the men high in office in both Church and State, and Ambrose Lewis was brought before his old pupil- Lord George Jeffreys of Acton (the hanging judge) on spurious charges of a Puritan plot. Subsequently, Ambrose Lewis was forced to conform to the Parliamentary Acts affecting the Nonconformists, as he would have had his license as a schoolmaster rebuked, if he had not done so, although he later continued to worship with Presbyterians and sometimes resumed his earlier function of preaching. But in the name of one of his properties we may possibly find a link to his earlier puritan stance.


Crispianism was a term applied to those who supported the fifty-two sermons of the radical Puritan Dr Tobias Crisp 1600-1643, which were published by his friends after his death, in 1643, 1644, 1646 and again by his son- Samuel Crisp, in 1690. Crisp had a popular following amongst London Puritans during his lifetime, but he grew immense fame, popularity and controversy after the posthumous publication of his sermons. The publications caused a fierce contention, known as The Crisp Controversy, which attracted great interest in Wrexham, where ex-Wrexham resident- Dr Daniel Williams (who violently opposed the works of Tobias Crisp) was well known. The controversy initiated much bitterness amongst rivals and sides were freely taken in Wrexham, as elsewhere in the country, from the mid 17th Century; so much so, that over the next hundred years following Crisp’s death, his thought (dubbed ‘Crispianism’ by his critics) remained a strong and contentious system within English and Welsh divinity.
Although he had been forced to conform, Ambrose Lewis may have been signalling his support for the radical Puritan, in the mid to late 17th Century, by naming his property ‘The Crispin’. Likewise, different members of the Edwards family of Stansty had very strong links to the Puritan cause in the mid to late 17th Century. The surname was first stabilized by Puritan John Edwards (1573 - 1635) son of David ab Edward; his executorship of the will under which his neighbour Sir William Meredith established a lectureship at Wrexham, suggests Puritan leanings, which reappeared in a number of his descendants. John Edwards’s daughter-Margaret was an ardent disciple of Morgan Lloyd, who had fought for the Puritan Parliamentary forces during the first and second Civil Wars. Religion had played a major part in The English Civil Wars, as the government's persecution of Puritans meant that the vast majority of Puritans supported Parliament, whereas most Anglicans and Catholics tended to favour the royalists.
Margaret married another devout Puritan- Colonel John Jones ‘the regicide’ who was one of the 57 commissioners that signed the death warrant authorising the execution of Charles I, following his trial in December 1648. Colonel Jones’s troop had partially been recruited from this region, and a garrison of Parliamentary forces was known to have been established on John Edwards land in Stansty, in 1645.
Margaret Edwards died in 1651, and the Colonel was remarried to the sister of Oliver Cromwell in1657, but he was later sheltered for a while at the house of John Edwards in Stansty, after the Restoration of the monarchy in 1660: Colonel John Jones was one of only a few people who were excluded from the general amnesty on the Restoration of the Monarchy and he was captured in London in June of that year and sent to The Tower of London before he was executed by being hanged, drawn and quartered at Charing Cross on 17th October 1660.
Fifteen years later, The Crispin Inn was listed on Ogilby’s Road map (previously attached) and while there is no definitive evidence to show that Ambrose Lewis or any of the Edwards’s were supporters of Dr Tobias Crisp, they were undoubtedly, fully aware of the intense contention, relating to Crispianism, when their two properties appear to have adopted the name ‘Crispin’ in the mid to late 17th Century.

Ambrose Lewis died in 1689, and his estate passed to his son- Ambrose Lewis (jnr) who leased The Crispin to the brother of the first Sir Watkin Williams-Wynn- Robert Williams MP from 1731 ‘and for a few years after’. In A History of the Town of Wrexham (1893) Palmer stated that Ambrose Lewis (jnr) lived at a house in Pentre Felin, called The Castle, but he also owned all of the land between Belle Vue Road, Watery Lane and Wat’s Dyke, including The Bonc, The Red House, a field called ‘Cae Dicas, and another field ‘Sugn y bedol’ (Marsh of the horseshoe) as well as Cae’r cleifion, in Penybryn and the estate called Pwll yr uwdd (Spring Lodge). His son-in-law Ambrose Lewis the third was the last in the male line of this branch of the Lewis family, but he left two daughters- Martha and Eleanor who survived into womanhood. Eleanor married John Lloyd of Gwyrch, curate of Wrexham, although Martha remained unmarried. She and her brother-in-law ultimately sold all of the Ambrose Lewis property in Wrexham, apart from Pwll yr uwdd and Cae’r cleifion, but The Crispin was sold in 1820 to Thomas Durack of Wrexham, who changed its name to Bryn y llyn. In 1828, Bryn y llyn was put up for sale as a freehold estate, consisting of twenty four acres, which was bought by a number of different owners. The land was then dissected and the size of the farmhouse reduced, due to the laying of The North Wales Mineral Railway in the 1830’s, and the Shrewsbury to Chester Railway, with a new General Station in 1845: The Crispin briefly provided a home for the stationmaster of The Wrexham Mold and Connah’s Quay Railway Corporation, before it was finally demolished by the same corporation in the 1860’s. Two fields associated with the farmhouse at Lower Crispin- Crispin Field and Crispin Croft were still being illustrated on tithe maps from the 1880’s with their owners being recorded as Mary Hughes (field) and Sir Watkin Williams-Wynn (Croft) respectively. Tithes for each plot of land were payable to John Foulkes Esq.

The Edwards Estate in Stansty eventually ended when the great-great grandson of John Edwards- Peter Edwards, died without heirs in 1783, and the estate was passed to The Lloyds of Pengwern, before eventually being sold to the iron master- Richard Thompson, who built Stansty Hall in 1830-32. But two fields at Upper Crispin associated with The Crispin Inn were also still being illustrated on tithe maps in the 1880’s- Crispin Meadow was owned by Thomas Penson although no owner has yet been associated with Crispin Field, at this time, though the entire area, from the railway embankment on Crispin Lane up to the base of Stansty Park, including The Racecourse, had been known simply as ‘Crispin’ from at least the mid 18th Century, through to the mid to late 19th Century.

Crispianism was a national religious controversy, which in its day was equally, if not more divisive than the current national political dilemmas that have divided friends and families alike.
In choosing the name of Crispin for their properties at the end of the 17th Century, Ambrose Lewis and members of The Edwards Family would have been only too aware of the controversy, but it appears that they decided to use this controversial name, at this particular time, perhaps as a thinly veiled gesture of their true religious beliefs; hence, the name was soon adopted by locals and applied to the area as a whole.
As Alfred Neobard Palmer had stated- I cannot prove this conjecture, for conjecture only it is, to be true, but it is the only explanation I have to offer, yet there is an undoubted Puritan link between each of the families and their properties which they chose to name ‘Crispin’ at a very specific and contentious period of our history.
As a modern analogy, it would be a bit like calling your home 'Farage House' in current times, while the neighbouring landowner converted his home into a pub and called it 'The Farage Inn'. Such was the controversy of Crispianism in the 17th and 18th Centuries.
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Attached are (as far as I am aware) the earliest photographs currently known of horseracing at The Racecourse.
The photo's are taken from an 'experimental holiday meeting' by The British Pony and Gallway Racing Association, which took place on The Racecourse during Whitsuntide in May 1902.
The 8 photo's are the earliest photos that I know, which show a broad view of The Racecourse and are the only photo's that I know of that time, which show the start line and the much-talked-about finishing post in front of the Turf, as well as an excellent view from The Turf balcony.
On 21st May 1902, The Chester Courant and Advertiser for North Wales reported that the meeting was well attended.
Winners of the races were;
Paddock Plate of 20sovs (Five furlongs)
Prince Alfred
New Century Race of 12 Sovs (Five furlongs)
Nuts
The Whitsuntide Handicap (about one mile)
Little Titch.
New Stand Stakes 15sovs (about one mile)
Prince Alfred.
Coronation Cup (a handicap) 30sovs (One and a half miles).
Sea Dog.
Wrexham Consolation Stakes 10sovs (Five furlongs)
Roseal.

The established annual races also took place in September of the same year.

I have attached 3 photo's, and then a further 5 photo's in the next 2 posts.
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