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[Rhosymedre Red]

Maybe it was this match.
http://www.redpassion.co.uk/forums/a...d-img_0091-jpg

[Rhosymedre Red]

Reliably informed this is Goalkeeper George Godding playing for Wrexham about 1922.

http://www.redpassion.co.uk/forums/a...1&d=1594462692http://www.redpassion.co.uk/forums/a...3&d=1594462692

[jonesfach]

Originally Posted by Rhosymedre Red

Maybe it was this match.
http://www.redpassion.co.uk/forums/a...d-img_0091-jpg

50 years ago from when though

[Rhosymedre Red]

Originally Posted by jonesfach

50 years ago from when though

I think that was from a 1950's Leader.

[jonesfach]

Originally Posted by Rhosymedre Red

I think that was from a 1950's Leader.

1900s then. Good job

[eastsussexred]

Originally Posted by Rhosymedre Red

http://www.redpassion.co.uk/forums/a...1&d=1594135221

No idea of a date, 1930's?

If you zoom into the photo you can see that The Turf Hotel (also known as The Grandstand ‘at that time’) had not yet been renovated and still had external timber panel facing, while there was still a doorway out onto the balcony. The timber paneling was replaced with the current external rendered paneling and the doorway was blocked off in 1913. You can also see that the taller section is only connected to the lower Turf Tavern at first floor level, with a lintel bridging the void between the two public houses providing an alleyway between both of the properties. This bridging between the two public houses was completed in 1900, and so the game must have taken place between 1900 and 1913.
There are another two photo’s in ‘images of sport- Wrexham Football Club 1872-1950’ of a game between Wrexham and Aston Villa reserves at The Racecourse between 1905 and 1911, but in those photo’s Wrexham are playing in socks with a band at the top, and so I think that the photo’s in the book must have been taken between 1908 and 1911 (as Wrexham changed to socks with a band at the top from the start of the 1908/09 season) whereas the photo you have posted shows Wrexham in plain shirts and (socks with no bands) of the same colour with white shorts and the only period this happened in that time frame was the green strip from 1904 to 1908.
And so I think that the photo was taken on 23rd Feb 1907 when Villa beat Wrexham by 2 goals to 1, on the Racecourse.

Wrexham - Historical Football Kits

[eastsussexred]

Originally Posted by eastsussexred

If you zoom into the photo you can see that The Turf Hotel (also known as The Grandstand ‘at that time’) had not yet been renovated and still had external timber panel facing, while there was still a doorway out onto the balcony. The timber paneling was replaced with the current external rendered paneling and the doorway was blocked off in 1913. You can also see that the taller section is only connected to the lower Turf Tavern at first floor level, with a lintel bridging the void between the two public houses providing an alleyway between both of the properties. This bridging between the two public houses was completed in 1900, and so the game must have taken place between 1900 and 1913.
There are another two photo’s in ‘images of sport- Wrexham Football Club 1872-1950’ of a game between Wrexham and Aston Villa reserves at The Racecourse between 1905 and 1911, but in those photo’s Wrexham are playing in socks with a band at the top, and so I think that the photo’s in the book must have been taken between 1908 and 1911 (as Wrexham changed to socks with a band at the top from the start of the 1908/09 season) whereas the photo you have posted shows Wrexham in plain shirts and (socks with no bands) of the same colour with white shorts and the only period this happened in that time frame was the green strip from 1904 to 1908.
And so I think that the photo was taken on 23rd Feb 1907 when Villa beat Wrexham by 2 goals to 1, on the Racecourse.

Wrexham - Historical Football Kits

The patches on the grass in the photo appear to be patches of frost- hence the February date

[eastsussexred]

Originally Posted by eastsussexred

The patches on the grass in the photo appear to be patches of frost- hence the February date

Originally Posted by eastsussexred

If you zoom into the photo you can see that The Turf Hotel (also known as The Grandstand ‘at that time’) had not yet been renovated and still had external timber panel facing, while there was still a doorway out onto the balcony. The timber paneling was replaced with the current external rendered paneling and the doorway was blocked off in 1913. You can also see that the taller section is only connected to the lower Turf Tavern at first floor level, with a lintel bridging the void between the two public houses providing an alleyway between both of the properties. This bridging between the two public houses was completed in 1900, and so the game must have taken place between 1900 and 1913.
There are another two photo’s in ‘images of sport- Wrexham Football Club 1872-1950’ of a game between Wrexham and Aston Villa reserves at The Racecourse between 1905 and 1911, but in those photo’s Wrexham are playing in socks with a band at the top, and so I think that the photo’s in the book must have been taken between 1908 and 1911 (as Wrexham changed to socks with a band at the top from the start of the 1908/09 season) whereas the photo you have posted shows Wrexham in plain shirts and (socks with no bands) of the same colour with white shorts and the only period this happened in that time frame was the green strip from 1904 to 1908.
And so I think that the photo was taken on 23rd Feb 1907 when Villa beat Wrexham by 2 goals to 1, on the Racecourse.

Wrexham - Historical Football Kits

The facade of The Turf Hotel confirms that the photo could only have been taken between 1900 and 1913, but as Wrexham only joined The Birmingham District League in 1905 then this date can be whittled down further to between 1905 and 1913. But when you take into consideration that Wrexham only wore plain socks from 1904 to 1908 then the photo could only have been taken in the seasons of 1905/06, 06/07 or 07/08.
With this in mind, if you then zoom into the photo you can see a tower crane in the distance, to the left of the Turf Hotel.
Wrexham Post Office on Egerton Street was built in 1885 and underwent a major rebuild which extended the rear of the property as an Inland Revenue office in 1907 (now council offices) and so I think that the tower crane in the distance was erected as part of the post office extension in 1907.

Wrexham Post Office - British Post Office Buildings and Their Architects : an Illustrated Guide

And so it seems very likely that photo was taken on a frost covered pitch on 23 February 1907

[Rhosymedre Red]

Thanks esr. Well done.