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Old 9th May 2017, 10.15:13   #19-0 (permalink)
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Already answered above but: posters in the window, sponsorship, advertising, raffle prizes etc.
Yeah I suppose that would help. Do we still have a paid role at the club like that lady we had a while ago ?
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Yes great idea but before we do any chasing of businesses let us get our house
in order first,last summer we lost bill board advertising due I believe to chasing
new business and perhaps lack of support within the sales team(if there is one
and if not why?)I know of one businessman who despite supporting our team
financially for several years was never asked to renew and please do'nt say he
should have phoned up, sorry but we employ someone to do this and I think
the easiest and first job must be renewals.So how much did we lose through
not renewing billboards (at an average of £1500 each)
So you're saying that fans are being asked to raid their piggy banks yet again for BTB but no one picked up the phone to ask if billboard sponsors wanted to renew, so some of those sponsors didn't bother renewing and I can't blame them.

Fuming if this is true.
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I'm a Wrexham fan, and have been one for 60 years, man and boy.
I run a business, but not in Wrexham, and have done so for most of the last 30 years.
I took almost 2 years away from my business in an effort to persuade fans to get behind the club and raise £thousands towards improving the squad. It led to the formation of the Trust and club ownership by the fans.

To paraphrase a famous saying by John F Kennedy: " Ask not what your club can do for you, ask what you can do for your club."

On several occasions in the last three or four years, I have offered the club a facility to increase it's revenue, only for the offers to be ignored completely. That's to say they didn't even bother to acknowledge the offers. Nevertheless, I continue to seek ways in which to help.

Last November, I discussed the club's history and present with an overseas party with a strong involvement in football at a very senior level who showed some interest in becoming financially involved with it. After passing that information on to a club director, it took weeks and several reminders from me before the club made any kind of response to my initial email. In that response, the person replying did so in a quite aggressive way - not in a way that encouraged any further effort to pursue the other party. In the event, the other party had assumed that the club was not interested because of the long delay. I told the club about this, but there has been no reply to that message. The entire performance has put me off any further approaches. In the same correspondence, I reminded the director that my own membership of WTS may have lapsed as I could no longer access the members area on the website, though I was still receiving emails. Though I had been assured by the independent secretary that this would be looked at, there has been no response about my membership either. As it was the third time in 6 months that I'd raised the matter, the Trust has gone without any funds from me. Is this an appropriate way of "looking after" those who try to help the club?

Someone mentioned that the club needs a good PR officer. It might have the money to pay for one if it and the Trust acted correctly with regard to investment approaches and membership queries.

I remain a club fan, and support the fans ownership model 100%, but I now question the suitability of some of the people who are running the show.

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Is it time for some people at the top to look at themselves and ask 'have I done/contributed as much as I could, could someone move us on further?
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So you're saying that fans are being asked to raid their piggy banks yet again for BTB but no one picked up the phone to ask if billboard sponsors wanted to renew, so some of those sponsors didn't bother renewing and I can't blame them.

Fuming if this is true.
Yes it is true 100%.
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Yes it is true 100%.
To be honest, if it's the same business I heard about, he sent the money in for a few seasons without being asked then finally gave up.
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[QUOTE=onelegged harry;2024100]Yes it is true 100%.[/QUOT

Read 2 posts on here that cause massive concern, one even has evidence. Why are we not running like a ambitious business off the pitch ? Its the foundations of everything, money = chance of success its simple. If we ignore these things then we will picking our own pockets forever. We need a paid role up top In my opinion. The money we are losing at present should cover the wage.
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I'm a Wrexham fan, and have been one for 60 years, man and boy.
I run a business, but not in Wrexham, and have done so for most of the last 30 years.
I took almost 2 years away from my business in an effort to persuade fans to get behind the club and raise £thousands towards improving the squad. It led to the formation of the Trust and club ownership by the fans.

To paraphrase a famous saying by John F Kennedy: " Ask not what your club can do for you, ask what you can do for your club."

On several occasions in the last three or four years, I have offered the club a facility to increase it's revenue, only for the offers to be ignored completely. That's to say they didn't even bother to acknowledge the offers. Nevertheless, I continue to seek ways in which to help.

Last November, I discussed the club's history and present with an overseas party with a strong involvement in football at a very senior level who showed some interest in becoming financially involved with it. After passing that information on to a club director, it took weeks and several reminders from me before the club made any kind of response to my initial email. In that response, the person replying did so in a quite aggressive way - not in a way that encouraged any further effort to pursue the other party. In the event, the other party had assumed that the club was not interested because of the long delay. I told the club about this, but there has been no reply to that message. The entire performance has put me off any further approaches. In the same correspondence, I reminded the director that my own membership of WTS may have lapsed as I could no longer access the members area on the website, though I was still receiving emails. Though I had been assured by the independent secretary that this would be looked at, there has been no response about my membership either. As it was the third time in 6 months that I'd raised the matter, the Trust has gone without any funds from me. Is this an appropriate way of "looking after" those who try to help the club?

Someone mentioned that the club needs a good PR officer. It might have the money to pay for one if it and the Trust acted correctly with regard to investment approaches and membership queries.

I remain a club fan, and support the fans ownership model 100%, but I now question the suitability of some of the people who are running the show.
This is a disturbing story and very serious questions need to be asked of the
director(s) involved.
I get the feeling that certain people running our club think it's their own to
do as they see fit.Well unless change happens we will be extinct.
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I'm a Wrexham fan, and have been one for 60 years, man and boy.
I run a business, but not in Wrexham, and have done so for most of the last 30 years.
I took almost 2 years away from my business in an effort to persuade fans to get behind the club and raise £thousands towards improving the squad. It led to the formation of the Trust and club ownership by the fans.

To paraphrase a famous saying by John F Kennedy: " Ask not what your club can do for you, ask what you can do for your club."

On several occasions in the last three or four years, I have offered the club a facility to increase it's revenue, only for the offers to be ignored completely. That's to say they didn't even bother to acknowledge the offers. Nevertheless, I continue to seek ways in which to help.

Last November, I discussed the club's history and present with an overseas party with a strong involvement in football at a very senior level who showed some interest in becoming financially involved with it. After passing that information on to a club director, it took weeks and several reminders from me before the club made any kind of response to my initial email. In that response, the person replying did so in a quite aggressive way - not in a way that encouraged any further effort to pursue the other party. In the event, the other party had assumed that the club was not interested because of the long delay. I told the club about this, but there has been no reply to that message. The entire performance has put me off any further approaches. In the same correspondence, I reminded the director that my own membership of WTS may have lapsed as I could no longer access the members area on the website, though I was still receiving emails. Though I had been assured by the independent secretary that this would be looked at, there has been no response about my membership either. As it was the third time in 6 months that I'd raised the matter, the Trust has gone without any funds from me. Is this an appropriate way of "looking after" those who try to help the club?

Someone mentioned that the club needs a good PR officer. It might have the money to pay for one if it and the Trust acted correctly with regard to investment approaches and membership queries.

I remain a club fan, and support the fans ownership model 100%, but I now question the suitability of some of the people who are running the show.
Even more fuming after reading this story if true.

I was considering a season ticket for the first time in 3 years but I'm starting to think something is stinking rotten at the top of this club .........."jobs for the boys" springs to mind

I've heard a few people comment over the last 12 months that we are now run by a small group of power crazed individuals who are living their dream of being at the top of the club they support but are in reality are totally out of their depth and are hanging onto the dream whether it is damaging the club or not.

I'm becoming more and more disillusioned with it all.

Starting to think it needs a big shake up
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