Russell Penn leaving

[Congy Red]

The great news here is that he went quickly. The worst scenario in the closed season is for players to mess you about, Pogba being the worst.

Penn would have been ok and it looks like Keates offered exactly the right amount of money, so that his head was turned, but we didn't sign a 2nd Div reject for too much.

Its utter utter garbage to say we can't compete financialy, how do the poorer clubs sign players? Keates, like any manager will try and sign the very best he can, but we may end up with the next best.

[Phils-an-alki]

Originally Posted by standingroomonly2

They can quite easily put a spin on anything and claim its not financial. What if the location issue was a case of penn wanting a relocation package (like Rhys Taylor did)? Both parties would be technically truthful in saying it's not a financial issue whilst at the same time the reason may be down to extra cost.
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This.

Plus DK said and I quote: We were close on the financial side of things

[NedStarksGhost]

Originally Posted by standingroomonly2

They can quite easily put a spin on anything and claim its not financial. What if the location issue was a case of penn wanting a relocation package (like Rhys Taylor did)? Both parties would be technically truthful in saying it's not a financial issue whilst at the same time the reason may be down to extra cost.
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So what that means is we offered the right wages he just wanted a bit extra, which we felt he wasn't worth. Doesn't sound like we are struggling to compete.

[Liverpool Red]

I think this is a blow. I got the impression Keates was going to offer him the captain's armband and build a team around him.

[SteveWAFC]

Originally Posted by Liverpool Red

I think this is a blow. I got the impression Keates was going to offer him the captain's armband and build a team around him.

He can now give it to Disley, who would be the better captain. Just needs to sign him first..


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[Huffy]

Originally Posted by Congy Red

The great news here is that he went quickly. The worst scenario in the closed season is for players to mess you about, Pogba being the worst.

Penn would have been ok and it looks like Keates offered exactly the right amount of money, so that his head was turned, but we didn't sign a 2nd Div reject for too much.

Its utter utter garbage to say we can't compete financialy, how do the poorer clubs sign players? Keates, like any manager will try and sign the very best he can, but we may end up with the next best.

Right on Congy

[John Neals Dynasty]

Originally Posted by Ex Limassol Red

Good for you, what a legend you are...

Yes the real John Neal is a legend. Obviously my post hit a nerve for a sarky reply.
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[standingroomonly2]

Originally Posted by NedStarksGhost

So what that means is we offered the right wages he just wanted a bit extra, which we felt he wasn't worth. Doesn't sound like we are struggling to compete.

Nobody knows. Nobody knows what was offered, nobody knows what his demands were. It may be financial but neither party wants to admit it for various reasons. I don't think it's a disaster but future signings will show how well keates is spending the budget. He seems to have come out of the failure to sign a target smelling of roses without anybody knowing the ins and outs.
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[Ronaldo to Wrexham]

Usually we sign local players - this side of Manchester/Liverpool for Northern based players or Birmingham for players south of Wrexham. Last few seasons under Mills this changed. In the last 2 seasons we signed 4 players from Welling and also last season Harvey from Plymouth and White from Livingston. Penn was York based so the cost of relocating would have been a factor to club/player. In the previous season we tried to sign Rhys Taylor and this was an issue in trying to sign him before moneybags Fylde signed him.Again if we start forking out to much in relocating players this could impact on the budget. I can't imagine White, Harvey,etc moving here without some relocation expense.

[RED2309]

Originally Posted by Ronaldo to Wrexham

Usually we sign local players - this side of Manchester/Liverpool for Northern based players or Birmingham for players south of Wrexham. Last few seasons under Mills this changed. In the last 2 seasons we signed 4 players from Welling and also last season Harvey from Plymouth and White from Livingston. Penn was York based so the cost of relocating would have been a factor to club/player. In the previous season we tried to sign Rhys Taylor and this was an issue in trying to sign him before moneybags Fylde signed him.Again if we start forking out to much in relocating players this could impact on the budget. I can't imagine White, Harvey,etc moving here without some relocation expense.

At last some sense!