Team who finish 7th qualify for the play offs next year, apparently

[Gaz Wxm]

Originally Posted by dlrwrexham

THREE up,is the only real way!.

I would go as far as saying it should be 4 up 4 down in line with every other division, i appreciate as it stands that the league clubs would not vote in favour of it but that is the equivalent of turkeys voting for Christmas.

[Alan Attack]

I used to have lengthy discussions with a friend's dad (big wrexham fan) about the playoffs. He was a bit old school and thought if you finish 2nd/3rd etc, you deserve to go up as opposed to finishing 4 places below. However, I believe the playoffs are one of the greatest inventions in the game.

[Phils-an-alki]

Daft idea. If its not adding an extra automatic promotion spot then its a bad idea. I'm still coming to terms with the fact we finished second in the league and didn't go up. Absurd and unfair.

[NedStarksGhost]

Not that I would complain if we came 7th and went up, but it would be pretty bad to be honest. I don't believe in play-offs anyway as you have a whole season to prove you are better than the rest. It shouldn't be decided over a couple of games.

However, they exist and always will. There's no way a team in 7th should be able to go up over a team in 2nd. It just makes them even more of a lottery. Bad idea.

[John Neals Dynasty]

Originally Posted by dixienormous

Id rather be aiming for top spot.

That's too ambitious aiming for top spot Dixie nobody at Wrexham aims for the top anymore just the play offs, ridiculous really it accepting being second best.

Any club start of season should be aiming for the top, if Lincoln can do it why can't we?

Obviously with starting from scratch yet again the odds of even challenging for the play offs are not good, but at start of season until impossible to do it top spot should be the aim.

A lot of fans at this club after 9 yrs of mediocrity have accepted being just that mediocre.
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[NedStarksGhost]

Originally Posted by John Neals Dynasty

That's too ambitious aiming for top spot Dixie nobody at Wrexham aims for the top anymore just the play offs, ridiculous really it accepting being second best.

Any club start of season should be aiming for the top, if Lincoln can do it why can't we?

Obviously with starting from scratch yet again the odds of even challenging for the play offs are not good, but at start of season until impossible to do it top spot should be the aim.

A lot of fans at this club after 9 yrs of mediocrity have accepted being just that mediocre.
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I doubt that Keates is aiming for the play-offs. He will want top spot. But Wrexham fans are tethering their expectations, and rightfully so, after the last few seasons. I'm certainly not expecting us to be winning the league. Too many clubs have a much higher budget than us.

It's not a defeatist attitude. It's just realistic.

[John Neals Dynasty]

Originally Posted by Junior Shabadoo

Because some of us care about the good of the game as well as our own club. The second place team missing out on promotion to the fifth is galling. To miss out to the seventh is approaching random.
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Exactly they may as well just draw a couple of clubs out the hat two play in the final it's ridiculous, what if the club finishing 7th went up by a slice of luck in the final, that club would probably come straight back down the following season, it could be a club with an average 900 gate.
I don't and have never liked the play offs personally it's not fair on a club finishing second in this league and 3rd 4th in the one above a whole season fighting for top spot just miss out and go out in a play off by a dodgy penalty.

What next play offs for relegation?
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[krux]

Originally Posted by John Neals Dynasty

Exactly they may as well just draw a couple of clubs out the hat two play in the final it's ridiculous, what if the club finishing 7th went up by a slice of luck in the final, that club would probably come straight back down the following season, it could be a club with an average 900 gate.
I don't and have never liked the play offs personally it's not fair on a club finishing second in this league and 3rd 4th in the one above a whole season fighting for top spot just miss out and go out in a play off by a dodgy penalty.

What next play offs for relegation?
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I'm pretty sure when playoffs were first introduced, they involved teams from the lower division playing against teams from the higher division that had just avoided 'automatic' relegation

[Willywill]

Let's have it simply as the top three go up and cut this American style razzmatazz crap!
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[Outertowner]

I think you need the playoffs to keep the season alive for most teams otherwise the last couple of months will pretty much be pointless for most and that would hit attendances.

Best and fair solution (similar to what another poster suggested) i think is

1st - Automatic
2nd - Automatic
3rd - Final of Playoff
4th - Semi Final (2 leg) Winner plays 3rd in the Final
5th & 6th play each other over 2 legs to play 4th in the Semi

Also i think the Final should not be played at Wembley. Most playoff Finals will not attract any more than 30000, Play at a prem club 30k - 40k capacity and keep some atmosphere.