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Old 16th May 2017, 09.18:16   #31-0 (permalink)
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This coming season has to be about seeing signs of clear improvement. Keates is basically starting from scratch in terms of his playing squad, which as Darlington said in his interview can be viewed as both as a positive and a negative. The good thing is Keates can bring in exactly who he wants, the bad thing is he also has to bond them and build an identity.

This season is a classic 'transitional' season. Hopefully we can build and retain a nucleus that can really give promotion a good go in 2018/19.

3 years from now I'd love to be looking forward to starting the season in the Football League.
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Old 16th May 2017, 09.28:32   #32-0 (permalink)
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Again, I hear what you say but I'm not seeing where this 6k average is coming from.

We're operating on a phenomenal average gate given the last 3 seasons. We have the ability to get 8-9k for a playoff game and maybe double that for a Wembley trip but to average 6k is bloody tough. If we were in contention we'd average that for the last few home games.
I can't find the attendances online, but in the first few months of Mills tenure, when we looked like we would be challenging for promotion, we were getting crowds of between 5,500 and 6,700 ish. If we had a winning team then I'd expect to see similar crowds again.

Despite an appalling second half of the season our average attendance over that season was still not far off 5,000. The potential is there.
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Old 16th May 2017, 09.29:37   #33-0 (permalink)
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The club isn't set up for a 3 year plan. I don't know why people keep mentioning it.
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Old 16th May 2017, 09.30:57   #34-0 (permalink)
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Each season we should be aiming to win the league. After 9 years in this league, the minimum must be play offs. I don't go with 3 year plan. Each year some say it is a 2 year plan. We will never get out of this league without aiming high. We cannot go on with 2/3 year plans. The plan must be for next season not any other.
Ideally after making a bit of a challenge in 15/16 under Mills, you would have expected us to make another challenge in the season just gone!

Instead we went a couple of years backwards and so we've needed another rebuild because those players just weren't good enough. Same thing happened when Wilkin took over, all we expected was to challenge and we had a mid-table flaky effort with another set of new players.

After challenging for 3 seasons running that was the benchmark for us, to do that every season, the title is always a long shot because we've not had stability on the pitch for a few years now.
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Old 16th May 2017, 09.31:46   #35-0 (permalink)
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I can't find the attendances online, but in the first few months of Mills tenure, when we looked like we would be challenging for promotion, we were getting crowds of between 5,500 and 6,700 ish. If we had a winning team then I'd expect to see similar crowds again.

Despite an appalling second half of the season our average attendance over that season was still not far off 5,000. The potential is there.
Think your right about the attendances when the football was good at the start under Mills. Lets not argue on this BUT the football quality was excellent at the time and It got people in and it even had people coming in who normally wouldn't. I know two Man U fans who cam to watch the Halifax match.

Give them good football and they will come
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The club isn't set up for a 3 year plan. I don't know why people keep mentioning it.
It's set up for a year by year basis like most are at this level with huge movement of players each season.
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Us fans can't look 3 years ahead at the moment though because most of us are just desperate to get out of this league (the right way not the York way).

The board will hopefully be looking 3 years ahead and I would expect their plan is for us to win promotion in that time frame, they are all supporters and want the same things as we want on here.
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It's set up for a year by year basis like most are at this level with huge movement of players each season.


Christ on a bike. We agree on something!

Our greatest chance of success is the "crest of a wave" approach which worked for Cambridge, Cheltenham and Lincoln.

They didn't have years of steady success. They assembled a decent squad, won some games early on and went from there.
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Sorry to chirp in with 'airy fairy' stuff but: the club needs to get itself a mission statement, a vision and some values. If it already has these then I'm sorry but I haven't seen anything of them.

e.g. found this example: Vision, Mission and Values | DIY Committee Guide
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Sorry to chirp in with 'airy fairy' stuff but: the club needs to get itself a mission statement, a vision and some values. If it already has these then I'm sorry but I haven't seen anything of them.

e.g. found this example: Vision, Mission and Values | DIY Committee Guide
We had the club for half a nation stuff a few years ago, interesting concept and well thought out.
A lot of work had gone into this from a branding perspective. Obviously most people will just see where we are in the league table though!

Then there is the My Racecourse stuff which again is off field but will hopefully help us going forward. I just thought of something that may be helpful to the club from the on field side but maybe they've already got someone doing this or in the process of doing it, as Carl Darlington has spoken about the Sports science aspect in one of his interviews.

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