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foreverared 30th May 2017 17.50:01

Manny Smith returns!!
 
I have it on very good authority from someone at the club we are in advanced talks with Manny Smith over a return to the Racecourse. What a defence that would be..
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Ddraigoch 30th May 2017 17.50:45

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ITK or just hoping?

foreverared 30th May 2017 17.52:41

[QUOTE=Ddraigoch;2033777]ITK or just hoping?[/QUOTE]

On good authority as I say
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JonWrexhamfc 30th May 2017 17.52:55

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Not good enough get him signed now. No ambishun.

andywrex90 30th May 2017 17.54:46

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I guess this would be seen as a solid signing ,,

With Pearson alongside I certainly would take that ,,
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pagl 30th May 2017 17.56:17

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IMO it would be a good signing alongside Pearson as Manny has pace. Not sure whats happening on the Ollie Marx situation as seems to be taking along time to sign!
A few more singings of the same quality will do.
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OneLoveWrexham 30th May 2017 17.58:09

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Won't be many better centre back partnerships in the league, great signing if true and Pearson alongside will compliment each other nicely.

Alan Attack 30th May 2017 18.02:31

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I'm not that arsed about Smith returning. He's done nothing in his career to suggest he's one of the best centre backs in this league. Not like Shaun Pearson

Gaz Wxm 30th May 2017 18.03:44

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this has been mentioned on another thread ...there is mention of his agent wanting obscene amounts just to talk to him.... for me it will depend on which Manny turns up, first season fine.... second season thanks but no thanks

davewilli 30th May 2017 18.05:25

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Let's not get excited until it is a done deal, but hope the moaners at the end of the season now see the wisdom of DK's prudence and get those STs sorted.

redavid 30th May 2017 18.07:48

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[QUOTE=Alan Attack;2033795]I'm not that arsed about Smith returning. He's done nothing in his career to suggest he's one of the best centre backs in this league. Not like Shaun Pearson[/QUOTE]

Wish Curtis Tilt would reconsider :D

Leighton Red 30th May 2017 18.10:36

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I'm hoping Marx signs! What a central defensive puzzle DK would have then!!
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Bryn Tirion 30th May 2017 18.18:26

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[QUOTE=foreverared;2033776]I have it on very good authority from someone at the club we are in advanced talks with Manny Smith over a return to the Racecourse. What a defence that would be..
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Stand by for some crap to come your way if this doesn't happen.

wrecsam am byth 30th May 2017 18.20:38

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His agent is holding this up apparently, if that's the case Manny needs to have a word.

89Leader 30th May 2017 18.21:16

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[QUOTE=redavid;2033801]Wish Curtis Tilt would reconsider :D[/QUOTE]

Stranger things have happened. Maybe if he sees the side Dean is putting together he might want in

tomas66 30th May 2017 18.22:29

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Heard that it will be done by the end of the week

dixienormous 30th May 2017 18.26:16

Re: Manny Smith to return
 
[QUOTE=wrecsam am byth;2033809]His agent is holding this up apparently, if that's the case Manny needs to have a word.[/QUOTE]

I dont get that bit. If I wanted to relocate and sign for a club and my agen was risking the whole move I'd tell him to eat shit.

LlayDragon 30th May 2017 18.27:13

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[QUOTE=tomas66;2033814]Heard that it will be done by the end of the week[/QUOTE]

If not then I'd hope that Keates would walk away from any prospective deal.

benwilliams 30th May 2017 18.31:01

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Bit harsh to judge Manny on being played mainly out of position and being coached by an alcoholic fraud in his 2nd season.
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TomWFC 30th May 2017 18.42:06

[QUOTE=benwilliams;2033825]Bit harsh to judge Manny on being played mainly out of position and being coached by an alcoholic fraud in his 2nd season.
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Very much this.

An outstanding centre-half, who's impeccable reading of the game, his calmness under pressure, his positioning, his decent burst of pace and his fitness (I've been told by someone who worked with the players that he's "An absolute machine - one of the fittest people I've ever seen") make him an asset.

Poor communication and rather quiet maybe, but with Pearson doing that alongside him he'll excel.
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SteveWAFC 30th May 2017 18.48:59

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1st year Manny, yes. 2nd year Manny, then Pearson will need to stay close to him. I don't care if he got played out of position for a few games. He got outmuscled too many times in that second season. Cook absolutely bullied him when he was at Barrow, as did the North Ferriby beanstalk striker.


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LatePaskinHeader 30th May 2017 18.52:11

Re: Manny Smith to return
 
Didn't he play along Hudson season 1 and then Fyfield in season 2? Not really a Hudson fan but would say that partnership (big man foil) would more closely resemble what we'd have now with Pearson. I often thought Fyfield was looking for someone to hold his hand too.


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REDROBBO 30th May 2017 18.55:30

Re: Manny Smith to return
 
I for one would be glad to see him back. In that second season you can forgive him as he was played out of place and the whole team was disjointed. To be fair I always liked Fyfield when others didn't. He always put a good shift in but was under appreciated by a lot of fans. Manny had that extra bit of class though Imo.

Funny_Old_Game 30th May 2017 18.57:52

[QUOTE=Alan Attack;2033795]I'm not that arsed about Smith returning. He's done nothing in his career to suggest he's one of the best centre backs in this league. Not like Shaun Pearson[/QUOTE]

Riley is better than Manny, I don't know why we didn't keep him. Said it at the time that it could have been a mistake.

ConwyRed 30th May 2017 19.11:02

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[QUOTE=Gaz Wxm;2033797]this has been mentioned on another thread ...there is mention of his agent wanting obscene amounts just to talk to him.... for me it will depend on which Manny turns up, first season fine.... second season thanks but no thanks[/QUOTE]

I agree. While I am happy to go along with DK but I hope Manny, if he signs, is much better than he was in his final season with us.

Quadrophenia 30th May 2017 19.12:02

[QUOTE=Funny_Old_Game;2033843]Riley is better than Manny, I don't know why we didn't keep him. Said it at the time that it could have been a mistake.[/QUOTE]

I don't think there's a significant amount in it to be honest.
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DoomandGloom 30th May 2017 19.15:39

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[QUOTE=Funny_Old_Game;2033843]Riley is better than Manny, I don't know why we didn't keep him. Said it at the time that it could have been a mistake.[/QUOTE]

A matter of opinion of course but in fairness it would have been a risk given his injuries. Great while fit. I'd probably use a similar argument for White, a gamble based on his issues. I'd not have been disappointed if we had gambled on both.
Manny was asked to play football in his year 2, and that in the right back position. Just not his position or game. I'd be happy if he's slap bang in the middle with Pearson.

Corner Flag 30th May 2017 19.41:03

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[QUOTE=DoomandGloom;2033850]A matter of opinion of course but in fairness it would have been a risk given his injuries. Great while fit. I'd probably use a similar argument for White, a gamble based on his issues. I'd not have been disappointed if we had gambled on both.
Manny was asked to play football in his year 2, and that in the right back position. Just not his position or game. I'd be happy if he's slap bang in the middle with Pearson.[/QUOTE]

DK has just signed a player who has had a 10 month break due to injury isn't that a risk ? yes of course it is life is a gamble .l

NedStarksGhost 30th May 2017 19.49:49

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[QUOTE=Funny_Old_Game;2033843]Riley is better than Manny, I don't know why we didn't keep him. Said it at the time that it could have been a mistake.[/QUOTE]

Riley is class on his day. But let's be honest, you always feel he's just a game away from half a season out. Manny is dependable, and I think that he will make a great centre back partnership with Pearson. Good move for me

joe 30th May 2017 20.12:12

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Would be a decent signing but I rate Riley more. It's easy to look like Maldini playing alongside Blaine Hudson


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rob0916 30th May 2017 20.34:39

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I really don't understand where this excitement to sign Smith has come from? Yes he was a decent centre half 2/3 years ago but the reality is that if he was as good as everyone is suggesting then why would Gateshead be happy to let him go to a fellow play off rival? I can't say I've seen anything of Gateshead other than when they played here and he wasn't exactly standing out as a brilliant defender back then.

It's Riley that we should have kept with Marx behind him in case of an injury but circumstances dictated otherwise unfortunately.

Todd Sweeney 30th May 2017 20.41:08

Re: Manny Smith to return
 
[QUOTE=rob0916;2033901]I really don't understand where this excitement to sign Smith has come from? Yes he was a decent centre half 2/3 years ago but the reality is that if he was as good as everyone is suggesting then why would Gateshead be happy to let him go to a fellow play off rival? I can't say I've seen anything of Gateshead other than when they played here and he wasn't exactly standing out as a brilliant defender back then.

It's Riley that we should have kept with Marx behind him in case of an injury but circumstances dictated otherwise unfortunately.[/QUOTE]

Gateshead fans really rate him and don't want him to leave. Many on their forum say he was their best player last season. He is clearly unsettled and wants to move closer to home in Brum, and that's why Gateshead are willing to let him go.

Personally I feel that he is a better player than Riley - more athletic and less injury prone.

Hawarden Red10 30th May 2017 20.42:17

Re: Manny Smith to return
 
[QUOTE=rob0916;2033901]I really don't understand where this excitement to sign Smith has come from? Yes he was a decent centre half 2/3 years ago but the reality is that if he was as good as everyone is suggesting then why would Gateshead be happy to let him go to a fellow play off rival? I can't say I've seen anything of Gateshead other than when they played here and he wasn't exactly standing out as a brilliant defender back then.

It's Riley that we should have kept with Marx behind him in case of an injury but circumstances dictated otherwise unfortunately.[/QUOTE]

Same reason we let Waterfall go to Lincoln. If a player has their head turned then what choice do you have? I think Smith was their best defender alongside Hogan that day and they kept a clean sheet, can't do any more than that.

Until_The_Final_Whistle 30th May 2017 20.51:45

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I was hoping our currently signed defenders would be able to teach Marx and help him reach his potential. Adding Manny would mean Olly might miss out, and personally I think he has the potential to be better, with the right guidance and plenty of game time.

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LePog 30th May 2017 22.00:09

[QUOTE=Alan Attack;2033795]I'm not that arsed about Smith returning. He's done nothing in his career to suggest he's one of the best centre backs in this league. Not like Shaun Pearson[/QUOTE]

Just the 150+ games at league 1 and 2 level.
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Screwe Alexander 30th May 2017 22.13:51

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I'd be delighted if Manny returned. People are talking like he was Shaun Pejic on ice in his second season but he was forced to play out of position for long periods by genius Mills.

LlayDragon 30th May 2017 22.18:42

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[QUOTE=LePog;2033928]Just the 150+ games at league 1 and 2 level.
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Which ended 3 seasons ago; he's now closing in on the same number of appearances in the Conference.

I'd say that makes him an above average Conference defender. Why people are bragging him up as fantastic is beyond me.

awaydays 30th May 2017 22.23:22

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Manny smith must hold the record for most man of the matches at Wrexham fc.

You can't really get a more of a reliable pro. Alongside Pearson I think it would be a class pairing.

Ddraigoch 30th May 2017 22.31:49

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[QUOTE=Funny_Old_Game;2033843]Riley is better than Manny, I don't know why we didn't keep him. Said it at the time that it could have been a mistake.[/QUOTE]

Don't disagree with you Foggy
Keates obviously knows something that we don't

Birdy 30th May 2017 22.36:52

Re: Manny Smith to return
 
[QUOTE=Gaz Wxm;2033797]this has been mentioned on another thread ...there is mention of his agent wanting obscene amounts just to talk to him.... for me it will depend on which Manny turns up, first season fine.... second season thanks but no thanks[/QUOTE]

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