Welsh FA to take over Colliers park

[wafc1926]

Originally Posted by Todd Sweeney

Isn't that a bit disingenuous?

I was against the assets being split from the club, but those who were in favour were told that all the proceeds from the proposed development would benefit the club, and that we'd also benefit from a new Kop stand.

Shouldn't you be blaming Moss and Roberts, rather than genuine fans who were lied to by them?

I'm not blaming any fans at all. All I'm saying is that your emotive use of the words " stolen from our club" is inappropriate when the majority of WST members (including the Board ) voted for it. We can't have it both ways!!

[Todd Sweeney]

Originally Posted by wafc1926

I'm not blaming any fans at all. All I'm saying is that your emotive use of the words " stolen from our club" is inappropriate when the majority of WST members (including the Board ) voted for it. We can't have it both ways!!

But those fans and the WST board voted on the basis that all proceeds from the redevelopment of the ground would go to the club, securing our long-term future, and that we would get a new Kop end. It was also never mentioned by the then owners that Colliers or the ground would be sold to a third party, and that we would no longer be allowed to use Colliers.

I have a lot of respect for you, but I'm struggling to understand your viewpoint on this one.

[smiffysarmy]

Moss and Roberts played a blinder. Divide and conquor the fanbase, and reap the rewards from the asset strip - leaving the club for dead.

Colliers was lost due to those scumbags, you can't blame anyone else.

[wxmdoug]

Originally Posted by Todd Sweeney

I'm surprised that you need me to explain my thinking.

We owned Colliers and The Racecourse. Moss and Roberts then hived them off into a separate company and sold them to a third party. They also separated the car park at the racecourse and the land behind the Kop where the flats now stand from the other assets and kept these for themselves. They then exited the club, which was left with no assets and major debts, with Moss and Roberts having backtracked on their commitment that all proceeds from the flats would benefit the club.

I would call that stealing, or asset stripping if you like. You seemingly don't agree?

For the Welsh FA to now take over Colliers, knowing as they must do the background to how it was taken from us, is to my mind quite appalling.

i have to agree we trusted MOSS AND ROBERTS and look how they repaid our trust.

how can the WFA be blind to this if they do buy colliers .

[Haruki]

Originally Posted by Todd Sweeney

The Welsh FA must know the history of how Colliers was stolen from our club. Have they no morals and no shame?

How was it stolen from the club? The club made a decision to sell it and were paid an appropriate fee for it. We may not agree with its sale and we may not agree with the circumstances that led to the necessity of the sale but it certainly wasn't stolen from us.

[Todd Sweeney]

Originally Posted by Haruki

How was it stolen from the club? The club made a decision to sell it and were paid an appropriate fee for it. We may not agree with its sale and we may not agree with the circumstances that led to the necessity of the sale but it certainly wasn't stolen from us.

You mean Moss and Roberts did as part of their asset strip?

[Haruki]

Originally Posted by Todd Sweeney

You mean Moss and Roberts did as part of their asset strip?

Yes but they owned he club at the time and were legally in a position to make that decision

[Todd Sweeney]

Originally Posted by Haruki

Yes but they owned he club at the time and were legally in a position to make that decision

I'd love someone to go through our books, and the deals Moss and Roberts did, to determine whether they all were legal.

Asset stripping is, to my mind, stealing. At the very least it's morally wrong.

[petered]

Originally Posted by Todd Sweeney

I'd love someone to go through our books, and the deals Moss and Roberts did, to determine whether they all were legal.

Asset stripping is, to my mind, stealing. At the very least it's morally wrong.

With you on this one. All the way.