Ratings vs Macclesfield

[Joblessred]

Originally Posted by Red Light

I was in the Tech End directly behind Dunn.

That was one wicked shot for their goal - camera highlights wont do it justice unless the camera was behind the ball because it was all over the place and the shear pace I think caught him out too even though it could be argued his positioning was good and he was well placed - but lets give some credit to the strike - it was a cracking shot.

The big question is how their lad Baba was allowed so much time to get his shot away - so far I haven't seen any highlights (lowlights or replay) but with both Wedgbury and Carrington playing so deep especially first half he should have been closed down a lot earlier.

In fairness to Dunn, other than the goal he had little to do - a bit like Jalal - with a massive partisan crowd behind us it is so frustrating that I don't think we even tested Jalal all match.

Shame Gime Toure didn't show for them - would have added some much needed interest to keep us awake.

Seen enough of this team during pre season and yesterday that talk of winning the league is nonsense - we are still short in quality match changing players.

Totally agree with the goal summary. It was a fierce drive that cut through the air swerving all over the shop.

Originally Posted by Phils-an-alki

Surprise fcking surprise Carrington was garbage in midfield. What on earth did any of you expect?
As soon as I saw the starting line up the pre season optimism drained out of me.

Extremely worrying that Keates thinks he can play there.

Mind boggling.

Originally Posted by [Removed User

;2057960]More than likely. Sad thing is I don't think Carra is the problem. Pre-season we had 4 central midfielders with 2 forced into wingers roles. He was the guy who linked it together and made it flow. Otherwise it just looked like 4 people trying to constantly occupy the same space.

The real issue is that we've got the wrong formation for the players we have; the tactics are awful and I'm beginning to suspect that we've concentrated so much on attitude and recruiting winners that we've forgotten to recruit people who can play too.

We started the game in Pre-season mode - very similar to the performance at warrington. Difference was Macc had more quality and we paid the price. I do think a few pre-season games against better opposition would have helped us prepare for this encounter better. We were both sloppy and complacent in the first half.

I thought the problem in the first half with wedgebury and carrington was how deep they were positioned when macc came forward. Wedgebury in particular was awful first half - chasing shadows and looking out of his depth. (He was better second half but I'd put that down to Macc being happy defending a one nil lead!)

We lacked width down the left and every time Jennings brought the ball forward, he had little support and often had to pass the ball inside. Kelly needs to play centrally, where he was more effective. Rutherford makes Johnny Hunt look like Pele. He is neat and tidy and offers 100 per cent. However, he twice received a pass in behind the Macc full-back and decided to turn back and then try and beat the same man again, to little effect. He didn't once beat the full back and every cross he puts in lacks pace, and is always high and floated. He never looks up and just lacks quality. Durrell was far superior for Macc, and I very much doubt he costs much more in wages.

Overall we lacked enough quality to break down a well organized Macc team. They fully deserved the win. The penalty shout was a good tackle. Hoping the new striker coming in will make a difference to what was a very damp opening game.

Could smiffy or rob please give me a few more posts to use everyday. One post does not let me debate and puts me at a disadvantage to other posters. Thank you in advance.....

[GarryOggy]

Originally Posted by dixienormous

Anyone got a horible feeling Dean will start Carrington on Tuesday?

He should be back up especially now we have a right back. Rutherford should be on the bench as well if not he is playing favourites.

[Hometown Unicorn]

Keates and Darlington both see something in Carrington that the rest of us can't.

I think he should never have been offered another contract.

Annoyingly, Rutherford's starting to prove me wrong as I believed he had something but he has very little to offer. As The Turf mentioned, he can't cross and he can't beat a man. At least Mackreth has those abilities.

Desperately need a striker to sign by Tuesday. Worrying early signs here, I know it's the first game and people say we need time to gel, but that Macclesfield team was assembled on a much lower budget and was made up of players who've had less time to bond than our lot. We never should have put ourselves in a position where we don't come away with 3 points.

I sincerely hope that yesterday was just a bad day at the office. Good teams in this league have had them in the past (look at FGR's 3-1 loss to us last season).

[Old Paddock Man]

If we'd have won the game some people would have massively overreacted , feting Keates' recruitment, the fact he gave everyone a run out pre season/trying different combinations, that the Portugal trip was a triumph for team bonding, the tactical genius of Darlington for negating the Macc midfield etc etc etc. It would have been a massive overreaction. Just like many of the posts have been (of the opposite sort obviously) about a disappointing defeat. Its one game. Flynn always said don't begin judging a team until 10 games. He knew a thing or two about football. Then look where you in January etc etc. I've no idea whether this team will compete for a play off place. I am sure they can do much better than yesterday though. Talk is cheap of course. Its up to them to do it. Biggest disappointment (apart from the result) for me was Holdroyds injury. He seemed likely to provide the energy/work rate weve been missing upfront for ages.

[standingroomonly2]

Originally Posted by [Removed User

;2058078]Lots of managers see the good in Carra. Lots of fans don't. I see both sides of that. One defeat in and Carra and Rutherford had long been set up to be the whipping boys from the moment Keates signed them on new deals.

I don't see that either carry the can for yesterday tbh. Okay so Carra sat deep. Was he ever going to do anything else? The real problem was that Wedgebury did too as Macc closed him down from about 30 minutes in.

Rutherford plays on the wrong wing and is bound to cut in no matter how many times he gets past people. Unless he has an absolutely clear run he's always going to come inside to try and get it on his natural foot. When he's cutting in and, like Jennings, he finds no-one to pass to because Kelly is up where the strikers should be and the two centre mids are playing as sweepers then of course he's going to give the ball away a lot more trying to find someone.

All of us and the management know we need another striker albeit the Holroyd injury may mean we get a loan too.

As much as anything though we need balls to feet to the strikers and the only players we appear to have capable of that are Wright and Kelly. For me we need one, maybe two more midfielders. We need an attacking one who naturally plays wide. Good as he is, wide is not Kelly's forté. We also need another ball player. We have a team of winners and triers. Not convinced we have enough with ability on the ball.

Rutherford is a right footed winger playing on the right side. So he isn't always going to naturally cut back in. He hasn't got a left foot at all so why would he naturally cut back inside onto it?? He cuts back in because he is clueless when it comes to beating a full back.
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[krux]

Originally Posted by standingroomonly2

Rutherford is a right footed winger playing on the right side. So he isn't always going to naturally cut back in. He hasn't got a left foot at all so why would he naturally cut back inside onto it?? He cuts back in because he is clueless when it comes to beating a full back.
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I thought Rutherford was right footed too. He cuts in because the full back knows he's right footed so closes him down with the only space for rutherford being to cut in, which gives him the space to cross with his left but he cant.
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[Foxy]

Originally Posted by standingroomonly2

Rutherford is a right footed winger playing on the right side. So he isn't always going to naturally cut back in. He hasn't got a left foot at all so why would he naturally cut back inside onto it?? He cuts back in because he is clueless when it comes to beating a full back.
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That's why he should play down the left side so he can cut back in on his stronger foot. This is where he played and impressed for Southport.

[Colonel D]

Originally Posted by krux

I thought Rutherford was right footed too. He cuts in because the full back knows he's right footed so closes him down with the only space for rutherford being to cut in, which gives him the space to cross with his left but he cant.
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Yes he has previously played on left,but always cut in and crossed with his right.

[Bissell]

Originally Posted by [Removed User

;2058078]Lots of managers see the good in Carra. Lots of fans don't. I see both sides of that. One defeat in and Carra and Rutherford had long been set up to be the whipping boys from the moment Keates signed them on new deals.

I don't see that either carry the can for yesterday tbh. Okay so Carra sat deep. Was he ever going to do anything else? The real problem was that Wedgebury did too as Macc closed him down from about 30 minutes in.

Rutherford plays on the wrong wing and is bound to cut in no matter how many times he gets past people. Unless he has an absolutely clear run he's always going to come inside to try and get it on his natural foot. When he's cutting in and, like Jennings, he finds no-one to pass to because Kelly is up where the strikers should be and the two centre mids are playing as sweepers then of course he's going to give the ball away a lot more trying to find someone.

All of us and the management know we need another striker albeit the Holroyd injury may mean we get a loan too.

As much as anything though we need balls to feet to the strikers and the only players we appear to have capable of that are Wright and Kelly. For me we need one, maybe two more midfielders. We need an attacking one who naturally plays wide. Good as he is, wide is not Kelly's forté. We also need another ball player. We have a team of winners and triers. Not convinced we have enough with ability on the ball.

Rutherford is naturally left footed???


Have we been watching the same player??