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Old 16th August 2017, 05.16:40   #41-0 (permalink)
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Can't believe how many are slating Massanka but saying Boden did okay!
Boden is still getting to match fitness and at least has a football brain. Massanka is just rubbish , thankfully his loan is up in January.
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1st game I have seen this season and still trying to work out who is who and where they play first half was awful couldn't tackle, put 2 passes together, was so slow, no creativity no determination, hunger or battle 2nd half the same until the lad Reid came on and seemed to increase the pace hunger and finished a gifted goal well

Some of the points the players have been given baffle me but everyone has an opinion
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Dunn (7) Earned his corn in the second-half. Needs to improve his kicking.

Roberts (6) Solid defensively but yet to get forward effectively. Took some clattering tackles. Can only improve.

M Smith (8) Won just about everything. A few wayward passes and headers but that's due to lack of movement by others. My MOTM once again.

Pearson (7) Good captain and leads the line well.

Jennings (3) Poor and stupid! He is our defensive weak-link.

MacKreth (3) Poor and hardly in the game.

Carrington (6) He did all that was required of him but has no ability to get past their midfielders.

Wedgbury (7) Mopped up most threats and worked hard.

Kelly (4) Has ability but no pace. He's not a winger.

Boden (4) Had one half chance before his substitution but took one touch too many. Hopefully better to come but still looks ring rusty, which is a worry.

Massanka (5) Frustrating, I know. Can't really win the ball in the air and gets caught offside. However, we are not playing good balls on the ground for him to run onto.

Subs:

Reid (7) Great debut. Changed the whole game and took his goal well. Great signing by DK.

Rutherford (5) Busy.

Hurst (4) Clumsy.

2 mid-table teams going through the motions after only 4 games. Not good. DK has stayed loyal to some underperforming players but now needs to have a rethink. Understand why folk criticise Carrington but, in this set-up, any creativity is supposed to come from the wingers. Last night, Kelly and MacKreth were again poor. However, our worst performing player remains Jennings; he needs to grow up and get a grip.

I found our misuse of throw-ins very frustrating. These are all things that need addressing on the training ground. I think that L Smith and Wright deserve a start, and 4-4-2 clearly isn't working.

Thankfully, Reid's display got us out of gaol but, fundamentally, our whole is currently much less than the individuals. Must buck up and do better!

Another great attendance, by the way!
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Old 16th August 2017, 07.37:43   #44-0 (permalink)
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Looking at some knowledgable posters it's clear we're not playing to Massankas strengths.

Come on Keates, mix it up a bit! Disappointed with how Kelly seems to be getting on.
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Looking at some knowledgable posters it's clear we're not playing to Massankas strengths.

Come on Keates, mix it up a bit! Disappointed with how Kelly seems to be getting on.
There is still plenty of hoofing going on, which is inevitable as we are not good enough to play it on the floor. So we still need a big man.

We seem to have 4 strikers who need to play alongside a big man.
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Massanka has sufficient pace to be onside by a yard and still win a foot race with most defenders. He has no need to be caught offside so often.
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Dunn (7) Earned his corn in the second-half. Needs to improve his kicking.

Roberts (6) Solid defensively but yet to get forward effectively. Took some clattering tackles. Can only improve.

M Smith (8) Won just about everything. A few wayward passes and headers but that's due to lack of movement by others. My MOTM once again.

Pearson (7) Good captain and leads the line well.

Jennings (3) Poor and stupid! He is our defensive weak-link.

MacKreth (3) Poor and hardly in the game.

Carrington (6) He did all that was required of him but has no ability to get past their midfielders.

Wedgbury (7) Mopped up most threats and worked hard.

Kelly (4) Has ability but no pace. He's not a winger.

Boden (4) Had one half chance before his substitution but took one touch too many. Hopefully better to come but still looks ring rusty, which is a worry.

Massanka (5) Frustrating, I know. Can't really win the ball in the air and gets caught offside. However, we are not playing good balls on the ground for him to run onto.

Subs:

Reid (7) Great debut. Changed the whole game and took his goal well. Great signing by DK.

Rutherford (5) Busy.

Hurst (4) Clumsy.

2 mid-table teams going through the motions after only 4 games. Not good. DK has stayed loyal to some underperforming players but now needs to have a rethink. Understand why folk criticise Carrington but, in this set-up, any creativity is supposed to come from the wingers. Last night, Kelly and MacKreth were again poor. However, our worst performing player remains Jennings; he needs to grow up and get a grip.

I found our misuse of throw-ins very frustrating. These are all things that need addressing on the training ground. I think that L Smith and Wright deserve a start, and 4-4-2 clearly isn't working.

Thankfully, Reid's display got us out of gaol but, fundamentally, our whole is currently much less than the individuals. Must buck up and do better!

Another great attendance, by the way!
I very much agree with these ratings.

Really disappointed with Kelly and Boden so far, don't think Kelly would improve being moved infield but it may be worth a try as he seems well off the pace playing wide left.
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Dunn 6 some iffy rushes of blood
Roberts- 6 did ok not spectacular
Pearson-7 solid
Smith -7 solid
Jennings - 6 as per Roberts

Macreth - 6 one of the better midfield performers at least he got involved where possible. Far better than Rutherford
Wedgebury- 7 did the work of two players due to the shadow who partnered him in midfield. I'll judge him when he's not alone in centre mid
Carrington 2 - he probably had about 5 touches all game. Useless useless useless. How on earth he's got 6's after that no show is beyond me. Woeful and with him in midfield we're going nowhere. Open your eyes Dean FFS.
Kelly 4. - ok first half one great pass across their back line to Macreth, second half he just went missing. Expected better after so much hype on here.
Massanka - 3 .Good god. Cannot head the ball if his life depended on it. No where near what's needed. Send him back to Burnley now. Never looked like coming close to scoring, pointless signing.
Boden - 4 Showed more than Massanka and I could not believe he got subbed and Massanka stayed on. Needs decent players around him like a player who he can feed off. Massanka is never that player.

Things I noticed. When our fullbacks or midfielders have the ball our front two had no idea what ball was going to played therefore they often made the wrong run or the wrong pass was made to play them in. We looked like strangers thrown together at times.

Luckily Gateshead are also pap and they made the mistake which cost them but it could have the other way round easily.

We severely lack creativity. The centre mid partnership is dysfunctional and it's a real concern DK is pursuing this.

From that performance we're 3/4 players short of doing anything.

Positives new striker looks better and must start ahead of Massanka.
We didn't concede manny and Pearson are rocks god help us if they get injured we'll be fooked.
Decent attendance.
It didn't rain.

Overall I didn't leave the ground feeling optimistic despite the win. Totally underwhelmed. We're so toothless it's criminal.
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Dunn 6 some iffy rushes of blood
Roberts- 6 did ok not spectacular
Pearson-7 solid
Smith -7 solid
Jennings - 6 as per Roberts

Macreth - 6 one of the better midfield performers at least he got involved where possible. Far better than Rutherford
Wedgebury- 7 did the work of two players due to the shadow who partnered him in midfield. I'll judge him when he's not alone in centre mid
Carrington 2 - he probably had about 5 touches all game. Useless useless useless. How on earth he's got 6's after that no show is beyond me. Woeful and with him in midfield we're going nowhere. Open your eyes Dean FFS.
Kelly 4. - ok first half one great pass across their back line to Macreth, second half he just went missing. Expected better after so much hype on here.
Massanka - 3 .Good god. Cannot head the ball if his life depended on it. No where near what's needed. Send him back to Burnley now. Never looked like coming close to scoring, pointless signing.
Boden - 4 Showed more than Massanka and I could not believe he got subbed and Massanka stayed on. Needs decent players around him like a player who he can feed off. Massanka is never that player.

Things I noticed. When our fullbacks or midfielders have the ball our front two had no idea what ball was going to played therefore they often made the wrong run or the wrong pass was made to play them in. We looked like strangers thrown together at times.

Luckily Gateshead are also pap and they made the mistake which cost them but it could have the other way round easily.

We severely lack creativity. The centre mid partnership is dysfunctional and it's a real concern DK is pursuing this.

From that performance we're 3/4 players short of doing anything.

Positives new striker looks better and must start ahead of Massanka.
We didn't concede manny and Pearson are rocks god help us if they get injured we'll be fooked.
We didn't concede.
Decent attendance.
It didn't rain.

Overall I didn't leave the ground feeling optimistic despite the win. Totally underwhelmed. We're so toothless it's criminal.
You are right about Smith and Pearson . They will ensure we don't get dragged into the bottom ten places. If anything happens to either I dread to think....

Would really like Fyfield as a back up left sided central defender who can also cover left back.
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Massanka has sufficient pace to be onside by a yard and still win a foot race with most defenders. He has no need to be caught offside so often.
In fairness to him, there were quite a few incorrect offside calls against him last night. Not sure what game the linesman was watching.
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