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draig arian 16th September 2017 20.52:15

Re: Keates isn't the man to take us forward.
 
[QUOTE=Inside Left;2071653]Why? Whats he left behind ?[/QUOTE]

Tongue in cheek, only joking. But he's got to pull his finger out, or else.

no1wrexfan1 16th September 2017 20.52:32

Re: Keates isn't the man to take us forward.
 
What a load of doughnut s who started this thread
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Red_Jackoisback 16th September 2017 20.58:11

Re: Keates isn't the man to take us forward.
 
This thread is complete bollocks.

pagl 16th September 2017 20.59:19

Re: Keates isn't the man to take us forward.
 
[QUOTE=Red_Jackoisback;2071663]This thread is complete bollocks.[/QUOTE]

A bit like todays game :)

Birdy 16th September 2017 21.01:01

Re: Keates isn't the man to take us forward.
 
Well Keates has been in the job nearly a year. Doesn't look like he has learnt a great deal in that time.

Vorporix 16th September 2017 21.06:31

Re: Keates isn't the man to take us forward.
 
Joke thread - full stop.

GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo 16th September 2017 21.07:44

Re: Keates isn't the man to take us forward.
 
[QUOTE=WrexSi;2071592]Keates made some bizarre selection decisions today. What's frustrating sometimes for the fans is, the wall of silence at times. No real news out of the club before or after games. For all we know Akil could be carrying a knock. Or maybe Coddington was always the plan, but the lad who played Tuesday was signed afterwards too as a useful stopgap before Coddington was ready to actually come and play for us. Who knows. We never hear anything. After matches we just get cliches out of Keates.
We go again next game, etc.

But I think the rot that has set in at the club goes way, way beyond the sole reason being the arguable inadequacies of Wilkin, Mills, Keates.

They can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear.

There's no spending power here guys.

We will never challenge for promotion, ever, if we don't speculate to accumulate.

All we will ever have, even if Mourinho was running the team, is a mid table conference (NL) team, as there's no money.

We are profitable, sustainable, it's our club, it can never die.

But football wise it's going nowhere, it never can, and never will.[/QUOTE]

Mismanagement has got us to where we are now, not supporting the CoE and the rubbish excuses to try and justify it. Young lads will hang around if they cam see a route to the first team, it's that bloody simple! Makes my blood boil knowing we now have local WPL clubs with better academies, Chester do also and are bloody part time!

A couple of years back we signed a number of lads from Gap Connahs Quay at a few different age grades, how did we miss out on so many of them in the first place? How many more have slipped the net? Things have meant to have been improved in this area recently so we will see.

Also watching Mills come in and cause further damage when it was clear to a few of us after the dreadful Christmas fixtures during his first season he wasn't cutting the mustard, the goings on started to come out of the wood work then and still he was kept on for another season!

JonWrexhamfc 16th September 2017 21.12:45

Re: Keates isn't the man to take us forward.
 
[QUOTE=Phils-an-alki;2071595]I said we might have to see this season out under Keates and as painful as it may sound see where we are this time next season.
We need to give a manager a decent chance at some point and let him try to build a team. Sacking Keates now would take us back to the drawing board completely in my opinion. If at Christmas we are bottom half in the league then that should trigger a rethink. Otherwise we see this season out and surely to god he'll have learnt valuable lessons and will act accordingly.

Saying that he needs to inject something into this team otherwise he's just digging his own grave. Fans won't keep coming back for the dullfest currently on offer. It'll turn sour.[/QUOTE]

With respect Phil we've had 4 seasons of mid table dog muck as it is and we can't just be prepared to see a season out. No matter who is in charge or whether it's their first or 5th season in charge, our goal has got to be promotion. We cannot keep accepting mid table. We have got to become winners. Luton. Bristol Rovers. Nothing less than 3 points can be acceptable.

GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo 16th September 2017 21.14:20

Re: Keates isn't the man to take us forward.
 
[QUOTE=welshian;2071593]This is what kills me. I've got no problem with keates on 18 months to prove his worth, but to offer such a ridiculous contract to a guy still in his managerial nappies was a huge mistake. Now we are stuck with this woeful football.[/QUOTE]

The deal has many benefits job security is good for anyone as long as targets are met. The clubs in a right mess and the board stood by and watched on or caused much of it themselves, whether you think Keates is up to it or not he has a hell of a task in just turning things around so such a long deal is needed. The deal is mutually beneficial we were told when it was signed.

WrexSi 16th September 2017 21.17:37

Re: Keates isn't the man to take us forward.
 
[QUOTE=GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo;2071671]Mismanagement has got us to where we are now, not supporting the CoE and the rubbish excuses to try and justify it. Young lads will hang around if they cam see a route to the first team, it's that bloody simple! Makes my blood boil knowing we now have local WPL clubs with better academies, Chester do also and are bloody part time!

A couple of years back we signed a number of lads from Gap Connahs Quay at a few different age grades, how did we miss out on so many of them in the first place? How many more have slipped the net? Things have meant to have been improved in this area recently so we will see.

Also watching Mills come in and cause further damage when it was clear to a few of us after the dreadful Christmas fixtures during his first season he wasn't cutting the mustard, the goings on started to come out of the wood work then and still he was kept on for another season![/QUOTE]

True. Is it me or do we not actually hear much about our youth set up these days anyway? It's almost like CQNomads have a better set up than us these days.
We still aren't bringing many through to our 1st team ourselves are we.
And yep, too much cronyism was going on with Mills at that point. He seemed to have our board in the palm of his non-drinking hand.


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