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GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo 16th September 2017 22.36:31

Re: Keates isn't the man to take us forward.
 
[QUOTE=Rob Edwards;2071685]At least in the latest Welsh U17 squad named for matches this week we have Matty Sargent & Steffan Bulkeley with 5 from Everton and a few from Swansea & Cardiff.[/QUOTE]

One of them pulled out though haven't they? We had far more in the squad when we got relegated even with Moss selling them on to much outcry, that continued under trust ownership and we had no outcry. The CoE has been neglected and we're certainly paying for it and some now, it's going to cost a small fortune getting it back to how it was which apparently os the plan now.

Alan Attack 16th September 2017 22.36:38

Re: Keates isn't the man to take us forward.
 
[QUOTE=NottsRed;2071681]Yet he keeps playing the same tactics that aren't working. He freely admits these tactics wont work without a target man yet persists.

We played our best football of the season when Carrington is suspended and Wright is in the midfield. Today Wright is on the bench and Carrington back in the midfield and look what happens.

Yes we are two points off of the top and unbeaten in six but in all reality the negative football is costing us points and now fans. I can't help but think with a more experienced manager with a plan B when its not working we would easily be on 24 - 26 points at the moment.[/QUOTE]

Gary Mills was experienced. I don't recall his Plan B.

The last 4 years since we lost to Newport has been like Groundhog Day.

Keates and his coaching team have made us solid but they now need to focus on making us a bit more expansive. In a 4-4-2, the game often revolves around whose midfield can push the others back. Keates must be instructing his two to sit in as much as possible which leaves a big gap between to the forwards.

Equally, we're getting next to nothing from our wingers (Kelly, Rutherford and Mackreth). They're barely linking with their full back.

Wasn't Darlington lauded as this great signing? Surely the three of them know more about football than us lot so let's give them a chance i.e. more than 2 months.

Hightown Brymbo Red 16th September 2017 22.38:20

Re: Keates isn't the man to take us forward.
 
If its premature to get rid (and it is) Can anyone justify his 3 year contract? ... When Morrell ,wilkins and Mills never got that luxury

John Neals Dynasty 16th September 2017 23.05:59

[QUOTE=Funny_Old_Game;2071604]Vose was in the Leader saying how he lost his way after leaving here, can anyone see anything wrong in giving him a short term deal? Even as a bench option he would actually inject some excitement into the ditchwater dull stuff we watch every week.[/QUOTE]


I would personally go pick him up.
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John Neals Dynasty 16th September 2017 23.15:26

[QUOTE=Foxy;2071575]We can't keep changing managers, especially when it's the same clowns picking the next manager.[/QUOTE]

You're right we can't keep changing managers and we are only 2 points off top 6 games unbeaten. But DK needs to learn from his mistakes quickly else now the honeymoon is over the pressure will build, besides the interview clapometer has been taken by Barry Horne (joke), we can't keep changing managers although I thought & said giving the job to a rookie was mad at the time, but having said that the so called experienced ones did no better.
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Birdy 16th September 2017 23.18:35

Re: Keates isn't the man to take us forward.
 
[QUOTE=John Neals Dynasty;2071701]You're right we can't keep changing managers and we are only 2 points off top 6 games unbeaten. But DK needs to learn from his mistakes quickly else now the honeymoon is over the pressure will build, besides the interview clapometer has been taken by Barry Horne (joke), we can't keep changing managers although I thought & said giving the job to a rookie was mad at the time, but having said that the so called experienced ones did no better.
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We can keep changing managers. If someone isn't upto the job then you replace them. Having said that the people appointing the manager probably need replacing to since they seem to be getting it wrong everytime!

John Neals Dynasty 16th September 2017 23.38:29

[QUOTE=Birdy;2071702]We can keep changing managers. If someone isn't upto the job then you replace them. Having said that the people appointing the manager probably need replacing to since they seem to be getting it wrong everytime![/QUOTE]


Aston Villa kept changing their manager and ended up relegated, crystal palace after 4 games, the problem is more about Keates having to completely build a new side in the summer. It's a big ask expecting all the signings to work out
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Bryn Tirion 16th September 2017 23.43:33

Re: Keates isn't the man to take us forward.
 
It's ridiculous to say we should be sacking Keates already but that's not to say I'm happy with him so far. His negative approach to games is a massive turn off for me.

Two defensive midfielders in a game at home to the team next to bottom in the league and who are the leagues lowest scorers with just 6 goals before today and who had not picked up a single point away this season.

Says it all about his approach to games.

ewloered 17th September 2017 00.44:12

Re: Keates isn't the man to take us forward.
 
it's exactly the same problems we've had all season , boring football. Same formation, same Players( Carrington in CM). Majority of fans are losing faith in Keates. The league this year is piss poor , we won't have a better chance!! Keats can find a keeper quick enough, get a creative CM and striker!!!

red under the bed 17th September 2017 01.15:47

Re: Keates isn't the man to take us forward.
 
[QUOTE=John Neals Dynasty;2071705]Aston Villa kept changing their manager and ended up relegated, crystal palace after 4 games, the problem is more about Keates having to completely build a new side in the summer. It's a big ask expecting all the signings to work out
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I think that is the reality...it is a big ask.
Rebuilding is easier said than done...Availalbility of players,affordability , relocating....It's not so easy to assemble a title challenging side....Isn't this why Keates was given a 3 and half year contract...Not expecting failure but surely this is work that needs to be constantly adjusted...Saying that, so far very disappointed in Roberts and Boden as contracted players....


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