Do we expect too much...

[Lets Av A Riot]

Originally Posted by Wrexham's Patrick Bateman

Do we expect too much from our professional players.....After all, they're just a hare's breath from working in proper jobs..
The tactical observers on here dissect players performances, but should we bare in mind, they are players on the last run of the professional game.....
Now I'm as bored of wasting my money on watching dross as the next person, but perhaps we need to remember where we are...

Having said that...It would be nice to stumble on that magic formula to get us out of this hell hole...

YES YES YES


Majority i think of our fans expect far far too much... just because we ARE one of if not thee biggest clubs in this league.

they expect us to be title faves every season and challenge for everything.. and if we dont they go nuts.

they FAIL to consider our budget and more importantly SPENDING power is much lower than a lot of teams in this league.. the likes of Eastleigh , Barrow , Fylde , Dover , Tranmere , Orient and more have Multi Millionaire Owners.

yes they may set a "low" budget for themselves./.. but they all tend to spend way over what they actually have as income. we CANNOT compete with that. even on the above shortlist that puts us 7th in spending .. and i bet there is another 2-3 teams with more spending power than us.

so by making a top 5 finish.. we have over performed... 5-8th is more realistic and even then job well done if so.

nothing wrong with constructive critisism when team play badly.. buyt the fans need to realise we simply dont have the cash to bring in top players for this level we have to hope that if any become avaliable they in it for the glory or career progression (hence hungry to win) and not just mainly for the wages.. as if money talks 1st.. then we wont get many top players here.

EDIT - the players Keates has brought in.. is excellent and some good coups there for us.. most of which are currerntly under perforiming. but fantastic signings non the less to keep em out of being swayed by the money clubs

[moynkeepthefaith]

Originally Posted by Phils-an-alki

That's says a lot more tbh

Ok I'll take the bait. We are expecting too much if we are disappointed with 2 points off the top and , in my opinion, having played some difficult away games. Saturday and the first game are the biggest disappointments for me personally.
I would like to see us create more chances but we are in the mix for promotion and I still hope/believe we will be in the playoffs at the end of the season which matches my personal target.

[Hometown Unicorn]

From the players I expect nothing but 100% effort. If the right players aren't being picked, it's down to the manager.

[eastsussexred]

Asking too much? We are the longest remaing ex-league club still in this division. The fact that someone is even asking 'do we expect too much' just shows how far our ambitions have declined.

[JonWrexhamfc]

Originally Posted by moynkeepthefaith

yes

No. For twenty quid i expect us to be beating Guiseley and putting them to the sword. That isn't expecting too much.

[Wrexham's Patrick Bateman]

Originally Posted by eastsussexred

Asking too much? We are the longest remaing ex-league club still in this division. The fact that someone is even asking 'do we expect too much' just shows how far our ambitions have declined.

That was me..I asked the question just to see what reaction it would get. My ambition for the club, in the many years of supporting Wrexham, has always been , and still is winning games and the subsequent prizes that brings...
I'm as frustrated as anybody, being stuck in this league and our expectations always seem to slap us in the mush......

I suppose it was that frustration that led me to start a thread. Can't think of any other reason

[whead]

Originally Posted by Wrexham's Patrick Bateman

Do we expect too much from our professional players.....After all, they're just a hare's breath from working in proper jobs..

No. If anything it should be the other way around.

Clubs in the Championship are now full of foreign players, let alone the Premiership. So if British players want to play first team football a lot of them have to play a level or two below where they would have been playing 15 years ago.

[moynkeepthefaith]

Originally Posted by JonWrexhamfc

No. For twenty quid i expect us to be beating Guiseley and putting them to the sword. That isn't expecting too much.

In your opinion which you are entitled to. I prefer to take the longer view and see Saturday as a mixture of a horrible opponent, a weak ref and yes poor tactics / selection combined with an under par team performance. But I have learned never to 'expect' anything in football.

[JonWrexhamfc]

Originally Posted by eastsussexred

Asking too much? We are the longest remaing ex-league club still in this division. The fact that someone is even asking 'do we expect too much' just shows how far our ambitions have declined.

This for me is the problem. We've been down here so long a large portion of the fanbase have now accepted mediocrity as the norm. And until this mentality changes to, nothing less than 3 points every week is acceptable ala Luton, Bris R, we won't go up. We've got to become horrible ba*tards to win promotion. Bully our way out of the league. Teams don't fear coming here. They hated going to Kenilworth road. Far too many people are accepting draws at home to Guiseley because ''It's another game unbeaten''. This is the problem.