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Old 29th October 2017, 06.12:51   #1-0 (permalink)
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It wasn't too long ago that it was thought that the top 8 in the NL would hold their own in League 2 ,but now the promoted teams struggle to adapt.
Is L2 stronger or the NL weaker ?
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It wasn't too long ago that it was thought that the top 8 in the NL would hold their own in League 2 ,but now the promoted teams struggle to adapt.
Is L2 stronger or the NL weaker ?
This season is a bit inconclusive, yes FGR have made a slow start but Lincoln are doing ok and the 2 relegated teams, both long term league teams, are bottom half in the NL. Generally L2 have bigger budgets so can attract better players and have bigger squads, but over the last 10 years the gap has closed, the NL has got stronger and L2 has been littered with teams who have got themselves into a financial mess.
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This season is a bit inconclusive, yes FGR have made a slow start but Lincoln are doing ok and the 2 relegated teams, both long term league teams, are bottom half in the NL. Generally L2 have bigger budgets so can attract better players and have bigger squads, but over the last 10 years the gap has closed, the NL has got stronger and L2 has been littered with teams who have got themselves into a financial mess.
I think that generally L2 has got stronger , but it is like having a cold shower for the relegated clubs , who take time to adapt and use their parachute payments wisely.
Also players would rather play in the FL than drop to the NL.
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L2 is of course generally stronger than the NL for obvious reasons. Accrington Stanley is a good example of a successful L2 team on a shoestring budget but with a wise chairman and inspirational manager. Brave and bold John Coleman likes his Accrington team to express themselves and play exciting football. Consistent performances foster better results in the long term. That is why Accrington with wise recruitment have punched their weight in recent seasons against so called bigger clubs in L2.
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L2 is of course generally stronger than the NL for obvious reasons. Accrington Stanley is a good example of a successful L2 team on a shoestring budget but with a wise chairman and inspirational manager. Brave and bold John Coleman likes his Accrington team to express themselves and play exciting football. Consistent performances foster better results in the long term. That is why Accrington with wise recruitment have punched their weight in recent seasons against so called bigger clubs in L2.
Yes money doesn't guarantee success.
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L2 is a lot stronger now than it used to be and theres some bigger clubs that have dropped down into it like Coventry.

Ive seen Notts County this season and tbh if by some fluke we did go up we would be coming straight back down. There is a gulf between the two divisions as FG and Lincoln are finding out. Used to be that whoever won the conference usually did well in L2. We haven't got the deep pockets to compete like the other two clubs that went up last season.
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L2 is a lot stronger now than it used to be and theres some bigger clubs that have dropped down into it like Coventry.

Ive seen Notts County this season and tbh if by some fluke we did go up we would be coming straight back down. There is a gulf between the two divisions as FG and Lincoln are finding out. Used to be that whoever won the conference usually did well in L2. We haven't got the deep pockets to compete like the other two clubs that went up last season.
Don't think we would...since we have been down here for 10 season's not many teams have been relegated back down...can think of Torquay York...are there any others,,
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L2 is a lot stronger now than it used to be and theres some bigger clubs that have dropped down into it like Coventry.

Ive seen Notts County this season and tbh if by some fluke we did go up we would be coming straight back down. There is a gulf between the two divisions as FG and Lincoln are finding out. Used to be that whoever won the conference usually did well in L2. We haven't got the deep pockets to compete like the other two clubs that went up last season.
I don't think so.

There are financial fair play rules in the FL which favour clubs with larger fan bases like ours........and righly so.The bigger your turnover from gate receipts and merchandising etc, the bigger your budget.

The sugar daddy, bankrolled clubs with tiny attendances can't survive for long at that level as they are capped to spending a proportion of their working turnover.

Shame the FFP rules aren't extended to the NL as we'd have a much stronger chance of getting out of this pit.
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L2 is of course generally stronger than the NL for obvious reasons. Accrington Stanley is a good example of a successful L2 team on a shoestring budget but with a wise chairman and inspirational manager. Brave and bold John Coleman likes his Accrington team to express themselves and play exciting football. Consistent performances foster better results in the long term. That is why Accrington with wise recruitment have punched their weight in recent seasons against so called bigger clubs in L2.
He'd be my number one choice as manager here.
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;2084282]Good grief. He’s an okay fit for that club as they have no ambitions beyond staying in one of the bottom two divisions so there’s no work going on of any note on the youth side or club/ground infrastructure. He tried elsewhere and failed miserably and not without good reason. He’d be an appalling fit for us.
Accy are another team that punch way above their weight and one that are founded on the money provided by the FL but spend that money well.

IMO the conference is a different beast and a squad/team has to built quite quickly and if it isn't working has to be changed equally as quickly.
Look at FGR and how even with money still managed to take years to get promoted.

DK has done part of the job but again there seems to be no strategic direction from above so now we sit here with improvements to be made - that is clear to almost everyone - money in the pot and no action.

If DK can be persuaded to make a move then we can push on but if we sit as we are for the next 10-11 games then we could miss the boat.
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