Bishop jumping for headers

[Number6]

Originally Posted by [Removed User

;2092891]Bish was hopelessly over-rated for a man who had one decent season throughout his entire career so you have to put his heading ability in context.

He never mixed it up. He jumped early and consistently missed. He would frequently do it against smaller players and still fail. He also mastered something which I see in Holroyd. See a player with the ball. Recognise the expectation from the crowd or team mates that you can chase it down, so, start a tad late and then run just far and quick enough to make it look like you made the effort despite there not being a hope you’ll make it. It makes you look like you made the effort whilst preserving energy for the glory runs you actually want to make.

I have expounded at length on Bish previously but the short version is poor technique off the ground with arms and legs.

Steve Massey and Chris Llewelyn!

[Huffy]

He kept Moult out a fair bit ,and I know my mate never forgives him for that

[Birdy]

Originally Posted by 89Leader

Instead we just limped high balls upnbe pitch every week and expected him to score 30 goals a season

Sound familiar?!

[Phils-an-alki]

Originally Posted by 89Leader

Always thought he took a lot of unfair stick when here. Would have been interesting to have seen how we would have ended up had we played to his strengths more. Instead we just limped high balls upnbe pitch every week and expected him to score 30 goals a season

What strengths were they exactly?

[Phils-an-alki]

Originally Posted by Bigmike

Phil and Mike I totally agree with you about Bishops effectiveness. I am merely defending my point of view that jumping early is a legitimate tactic. Mike I don't agree about Holroyd I think he is playing well. As far as effectiveness is concerned he is scoring goals.

If you win the ball it’s effective of course but your argument was that Bishop was doing it deliberately didn’t stack up for reasons already pointed out. You do realise how bad he actually was in the air don’t you? I don’t get why you used him as an example. It makes no sense whatsoever.

At the end of the day he was utter shit. By the time he arrived here he was shot body and mind had given up.

[pagl]

Originally Posted by Phils-an-alki

If you win the ball it’s effective of course but your argument was that Bishop was doing it deliberately didn’t stack up for reasons already pointed out. You do realise how bad he actually was in the air don’t you? I don’t get why you used him as an example. It makes no sense whatsoever.

At the end of the day he was utter shit. By the time he arrived here he was shot body and mind had given up.

Yeh agreed.
Les Ferndinand jumped early, was able to hang in the air and win the headers - clearly a strategy design to win the ball. Bishop just couldn't complete in the air so the point that he jumped early wasn't about him winning the ball and just meant it highlighted his failure even more......LOL.

[BillEBadass]

An effective measure to assess how serious a player is challenging for a header is to count their remaining teeth and how many times they have broken their nose.

As for timing the jump take a master class from Ronaldo - he may be arrogant but he's no wimp and a wonderful header of a ball. (didn't enjoy writing the last bit but give credit when its due)

[Jebudo]

Think the best I've ever seen for 'jumping early' to head it was Graeme Sharp for Everton, had it off to a tee, Bishop just jumped...

[John Neals Dynasty]

Bishop well gone and we have a thread on him useless at heading 😂😂

Yes he was crap but he could score goals at times, now in the present day we have until recent events had 4 strikers who are all crap in the air couldn't head a balloon. And bar one couldn't hit a barn door with nobody infront of them.
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