Local talent spotter identifies key WAFC targets

[BigTiredGrowlSnarl]

Harri Lovett is the type of lad we need and have missed out on in the past.

I know Ruscoe well. I haven’t come across anyone more passionate about improving young footballers anywhere else. He’s a good lad with the right intentions and he does raise a very very important point:

How many local lads in the last 10 years have we properly developed into the first team. I do t mean sold on to other clubs for a fee and a future sell on %?

There are a lot of good young players out there that the likes of Everton, City, Liverpool, United et all haven’t snapped up. I look at the Wales u18/u19 squad and there are a few very good players in those teams and doing well in the WPL.

I admit the leap between WPL and National League is big, but not insurmountable. We picked up Trundle from Rhyl dont forget. Many players develop later on post adolescence but because they were not a world beater at 6 just never got picked up.

I imagine that there are a few youth coaches on here and could probably name 3/4/5 players they know that have developed late and should be now playing at a higher level.

This article is very good in putting the issues I’ve mentioned above under the microscope. Why are we not seeing local talent more in the first 11 at Wrexham is debate we should be absolutely having.

Good on Ruscoe for bringing it up.

[Junior Shabadoo]

Originally Posted by BigTiredGrowlSnarl

Harri Lovett is the type of lad we need and have missed out on in the past.

I know Ruscoe well. I haven’t come across anyone more passionate about improving young footballers anywhere else. He’s a good lad with the right intentions and he does raise a very very important point:

How many local lads in the last 10 years have we properly developed into the first team. I do t mean sold on to other clubs for a fee and a future sell on %?

There are a lot of good young players out there that the likes of Everton, City, Liverpool, United et all haven’t snapped up. I look at the Wales u18/u19 squad and there are a few very good players in those teams and doing well in the WPL.

I admit the leap between WPL and National League is big, but not insurmountable. We picked up Trundle from Rhyl dont forget. Many players develop later on post adolescence but because they were not a world beater at 6 just never got picked up.

I imagine that there are a few youth coaches on here and could probably name 3/4/5 players they know that have developed late and should be now playing at a higher level.

This article is very good in putting the issues I’ve mentioned above under the microscope. Why are we not seeing local talent more in the first 11 at Wrexham is debate we should be absolutely having.

Good on Ruscoe for bringing it up.

A good post. If Ruscoe thinks the players can improve the Wrexham team now he's probably barking mad but I doubt that's what that article was really all about despite being packaged as such. We definitely need a serious rethink about local players, not just in terms of who we then sell for big bucks but also just to give our first team a real length of service (like Gareth Owen or Steve Watkin). It's clear that we don't really know what to do to make that happen - mostly because it doesn't seem to be anyone's job to think about it.
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[BigTiredGrowlSnarl]

Originally Posted by Junior Shabadoo

A good post. If Ruscoe thinks the players can improve the Wrexham team now he's probably barking mad but I doubt that's what that article was really all about despite being packaged as such. We definitely need a serious rethink about local players, not just in terms of who we then sell for big bucks but also just to give our first team a real length of service (like Gareth Owen or Steve Watkin). It's clear that we don't really know what to do to make that happen - mostly because it doesn't seem to be anyone's job to think about it.
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Exactly, I agree.

We’ve been so fixated (rightly) about getting out this league for 10 years that we just go from season to season with a new team every year. Carrington is longest serving player we have for eg. We’ve not stopped to think about the long term issues that we have at the club football wise. Even when Horne was here I couldn’t make out how the COE was suppose to show a path to the first team.

Every successful club in the history of football has put nurturing young talent front and centre. United under fergie, Liverpool under Paisley, Clough at Forest even here with Flynn in the 90s. If you want sustained success over a long period of time, along with good coaching and signings, you need a conveyor belt of talent from the youth set up.

We just don’t have that here, despite the fact that the town has a very strong grass roots heritage. In a 15 mile radius of the racecourse there must be 50+ grassroots teams and clubs, I’m being very conservative with my estimations there as well. You can’t tell me there’s not a single lad in them clubs that would not have the talent and mentality to make it here and establish themselves in the 1st 11? I don’t believe that for a second.

[GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo]

He's also related to Scott Ruscoe current TNS manager and works himself at Chester, make of that what you will.

[GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo]

Also from what I've seen, barely any WPL players get into the Wales U18/U19 squads, younger yes. It can easily be checked out on the brilliant dragon soccer site.

Some of those in these squads have been involved at WPL clubs and moved on I'll add, something very fishy going on.

[GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo]

He did work at the club at one time and now his mates come online pointing out what we already know and been very active today.

Axe grinding going on?

[Junior Shabadoo]

Originally Posted by GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo

He did work at the club at one time and now his mates come online pointing out what we already know and been very active today.

Axe grinding going on?

I'm not his mate, I've literally never met him or seen him. But if those of us making an alternative point are telling you "what you already know" then what "you already know" obviously is correct. He does seem to get a few people online into a lather, but I don't see why pointing out that WFC has a muddled youth policy that extends to defending Ruscoe. It might do if anyone made a case for Barry Torrence signing for Wrexham but nobody has. Where's your axe?
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[Parry52]

Originally Posted by rob0916

How has this chump actually got an article in the Daily Post spouting this rubbish? This is genuinely one of the most embarrassing articles I've ever read.

Daily Post at grassroots level have an agenda, they promote the same clubs every week, the ones they want to do well. Funniest thing I find is a certain journalist writes about the matches every week like he's seen them. Our secretary accidentally sent the wrong scorers times through which was reported as a heroic comeback from 3-0 down, in reality it was 1-1, 2-2, 3-3.

I thought this article was so bad it was funny. Either he actually believes it and he's delusional or he wrote an article he knows a massive fan base in North Wales will discuss. Either way it gets his and his clubs name out there.

[Foxy]

This really is much ado about nothing. Andy Ruscoe is very good at PR , but he is also a really genuine person with a lot of energy and ideas. All he has done is that he has written a light article about local players. It’s interesting and a bit different. Why is the guy being criticised ? Perhaps because he doesn’t fit into the normal Wrexham fan thing ? And maybe therein lies the problem.