Crowd v Tranmere

[Chief]

Fantastic support. It shows what size crowds we are capable of. Very encouraging for the future.

Listed below are the home crowds and results we got for the 4 years when we were in the old 2nd Division. The attendance make for fascinating reading. Although meaningless, the figures are interesting!

1978/9

14081 v Brighton 0-0
12785 v Leicester 0-0
14091 v Newcastle 0-0
11766 v Cardiff 1-2
9807 v Cambridge 2-0
15132 v Crystal Palace 0-0
10891 v Notts County 3-1
9122 v Orient 3-1
9080 v Millwall 3-0
15787 v West Ham 4-3
9764 v Sheffield Utd 4-0
9407 v Blackburn 2-1
8840 v Burnley 0-1
9046 v Fulham 1-1
7518 v Charlton 1-1
8418 v Oldham 2-0
13419 v Preston 2-1
20211 v Stoke 0-1
19133 v Sunderland 1-2
7842 v Luton 2-0
6136 v Bristol Rovers 0-1

FA Cup

5639 v Stockport 6-2
16050 v Tottenham 2-3 (aet)


League Cup

8004 v Bury 2-0
12428 v Norwich 1-3

Welsh Cup

1000 v Portmadog 4-1
9569 v Swansea 3-2
6174 v Shrewsbury 1-1


Ave: 10755


1979/80

13036 v West Ham 1-0
9830 v Cardiff 0-1
8196 v Orient 2-1
9183 v Notts County 1-0
10362 v Oldham 1-1
13693 v Birmingham 1-0
9442 v Watford 3-0
9188 v Bristol Rovers 1-2
10651 v Swansea 1-0
9145 v Luton 3-1
15641 v Chelsea 2-0
14738 v Preston 2-0
7288 v Charlton 3-2
13299 v Newcastle 1-0
12844 v Shrewsbury 0-1
6136 v Fulham 1-1
4357 v Cambridge 1-0
6605 v Burnley 1-0
12064 v Sunderland 0-1
10023 v Leicester 0-1
6268 v QPR 1-3

FA Cup

10670 v Charlton 6-0
14643 v Carlisle 3-1


League Cup

5878 v Carlisle 1-1
5143 v Southampton 0-3

Welsh Cup

2139 v Connah's Quay 5-0
4468 v Newport 0-1

Ave: 9441



1980/81

7772 v Cardiff 0-1
5176 v Oldham 3-2
5356 v Orient 3-1
10913 v Blackburn 0-1
8544 v Swansea 1-1
5775 v Preston 0-1
4179 v Bristol City 1-0
6221 v Notts County 1-1
7953 v Chelsea 0-4
8941 v West Ham 2-2
5049 v Cambridge 0-0
7635 v Bolton 0-1
6437 v Newcastle 0-0
5619 v Grimsby 0-2
6488 v Derby 2-2
5887 v QPR 1-1
4157 v Luton 0-0
8001 v Sheffield Wed 4-0
8416 v Shrewsbury 1-2
3220 v Bristol Rovers 3-1
4659 v Watford 0-1

FA Cup

13957 v West Ham 0-0
14615 v West Ham 1-0 (2nd Rep)
12267 v Wimbledon 1-2

League Cup

5126 v Burnley 1-3


Welsh Cup

1069 v Pwllheli 6-0
4880 v Cardiff 3-0
1762 v Connah's Quay 2-1
418 2 v Swansea 2-2

Ave: 6698


1981/82

4661 v QPR 1-3
4007 v Norwich 2-3
3911 v Watford 0-1
3076 v Charlton 1-0
4795 v Crystal Palace 0-1
4069 v Luton 0-2
3351 v Grimsby 2-0
3635 v Cardiff 3-1
4330 v Oldham 0-3
4221 v Orient 0-1
4907 v Sheffield Wed 0-1
3935 v Chelsea 1-0
3202 v Bolton 2-1
5780 v Blackburn 1-0
4073 v Derby 1-1
4517 v Newcastle 4-2
6506 v Shrewsbury 1-0
4860 v Burnley 0-0
4913 v Leicester 0-0
3351 v Cambridge 0-0
3350 v Rotherham 3-2

FA Cup

8655 v Chelsea 1-1
10647 v Chelsea 1-2 (2nd Rep)


League Cup

2068 v Swindon 3-2
3453 v Luton 0-1



Ave: 4571

[Red Light]

Really spooky looking back at those fixtures, many of which I attended.

They were at a time when through our history we were probably at our peak playing games against big city clubs - we had never been as high previously and had a great, entertaining, attacking team full of characters - sadly the golden days didn't last that long.

8,471 on Saturday sounds great and in a way it is but in reality 6,500 ish home fans compared to the numbers turning up in the late 70's early 80's is now small fry and would only be the equal of our lowest attended game then.

Still think there is massive potential to tap into throughout North Wales but the whole stadium needs redevelopment particularly the Kop end to drag it screaming into the times we now live.

[Huffy]

12 844 against Shrewsbury 79/80
Very interesting reading !!

[subbuteorob]

I think the key is how the attendances reducedyear 1 to year 4. Shows fans want to see a successful team. The league they are in is almost immaterial.

[michaelps]

You are probably too young to remember Rob, but Wrexham/NE Wales was absolutely decimated by job losses and recession especially in coal, steel and manufacturing in that 1980-82 period. The fortunes on the pitch would be relevant but that was a truly awful period for the town and area and the main reason by far crowds dropped was unemployment and recession.

Hooliganism would have put some people off as well in that period; crowds were plummeting nationally off a cliff in the early 1980's due to these factors, even at the really successful clubs of that time like Liverpool, Everton and United.

[redone]

Originally Posted by michaelps

You are probably too young to remember Rob, but Wrexham/NE Wales was absolutely decimated by job losses and recession especially in coal, steel and manufacturing in that 1980-82 period. The fortunes on the pitch would be relevant but that was a truly awful period for the town and area and the main reason by far crowds dropped was unemployment and recession.

Hooliganism would have put some people off as well in that period; crowds were plummeting nationally off a cliff in the early 1980's due to these factors, even at the really successful clubs of that time like Liverpool, Everton and United.

agree with all that, plus fans wernt too happy at selling our best players, my mother went ballistic when mickey t got sold ha great days tho

[fluffysheepsupporter]

Originally Posted by michaelps

You are probably too young to remember Rob, but Wrexham/NE Wales was absolutely decimated by job losses and recession especially in coal, steel and manufacturing in that 1980-82 period. The fortunes on the pitch would be relevant but that was a truly awful period for the town and area and the main reason by far crowds dropped was unemployment and recession.

Hooliganism would have put some people off as well in that period; crowds were plummeting nationally off a cliff in the early 1980's due to these factors, even at the really successful clubs of that time like Liverpool, Everton and United.

I was going to see them in that halcyon period . Was looking only the other day at attendances in 77/78 which started off at around 5K but by the season end and we were near promotion it was 15-18K . The last match against Peterborough there were an estimated 23K inside the ground. Reasons for lower crowds from 1980 onwards entirely valid but equally so it was less standing and more seated.

[dlrwrexham]

I think that Donny v Brizzle Rovers pulled about 400 less,in L1 on Saturday.

Made me quite proud to see the old gaff full again (well,fullish!).

[TWREX]

Originally Posted by michaelps

You are probably too young to remember Rob, but Wrexham/NE Wales was absolutely decimated by job losses and recession especially in coal, steel and manufacturing in that 1980-82 period. The fortunes on the pitch would be relevant but that was a truly awful period for the town and area and the main reason by far crowds dropped was unemployment and recession.

Hooliganism would have put some people off as well in that period; crowds were plummeting nationally off a cliff in the early 1980's due to these factors, even at the really successful clubs of that time like Liverpool, Everton and United.

We lost 6500 jobs at Shotton steel works 31/03/1980 the biggest single loss of jobs in Western Europe to this day .I was one of the lucky ones to carry on, hard times.