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Old 9th February 2018, 22.22:36   #21-0 (permalink)
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Not for me Clive. I've been a bit down on the initiative anyway; it only continues our tunnel vision towards player wages we've been focused on at the expense of the rest of the club for a decade or more. If anything needs a boost its our ailing youth system or a ground that is just about fit for purpose. A further focus towards player wages should only come from a concerted effort to increase attendances and not "going back to the well". I will be taking the opportunity to tell the club this although I expect to be a minority voice.
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Take your point but promotion is the answer to most questions. Get promoted and the club could really flourish including being able to tackle the things you mention. But as we know achieving it is incredibly difficult. How much do we the fans really want it?
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I don't think it would do us any good to publish what funds were raised - other clubs will use the information to our detriment when negotiating transfer fee - we all know what the funds are for and we need to trust DK and our club officials to do the right thing.

Secondly, promotion or not if we can club together as a fanbase and support our club with an additional cash injection which gives us an advantage over our league rivals whichever league we play in then it's got to be a good thing.

Suggest that the best return could be achieved when we are all together under the umbrella of 'the feel good factor' - supporters will more easily contribute when we are top of the league and in big numbers - could target one of our forthcoming home matches with a bucket collection. All buckets carried by club players not in the match day squad to give it some more appeal / and or ex players. The time to strengthen is not when a club is creaking and in the mire (like Chester) but when we are doing well - the worst that can happen is that more funds can be stockpiled as and when DK needs it - whether it's in this league next season or L2.

I just don't understand the comments that if we go up we can rely on other income sources - whilst we can we should keep the pressure up - as in any aspect of life the more funds we have the more we can do.
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Old 9th February 2018, 23.41:07   #23-0 (permalink)
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As long as we are fans owned 'Btb' should be a constant,surely.
People thinking our financial problems will go away if(when) we get back in the league are dreaming. Our rival league teams will also receive the League subsidy, and the majority of them will also have owners/benefactors boosting their respective pots.
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Old 10th February 2018, 00.10:57   #24-0 (permalink)
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why the fek not , its our thing after all
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Old 10th February 2018, 00.14:33   #25-0 (permalink)
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Take your point but promotion is the answer to most questions. Get promoted and the club could really flourish including being able to tackle the things you mention. But as we know achieving it is incredibly difficult. How much do we the fans really want it?
We've shown we want it by turning up in numbers for the last decade. Promotion is the answer to most questions but after ten years route one isn't the only thing that matters.
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Old 10th February 2018, 05.14:54   #26-0 (permalink)
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I don't think it's any coincidence that supporter numbers have swollen since the club has been run and funded the fans. Stop the funding and the interest will die off in my opinion. Don't fix what ain't broke.
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Old 10th February 2018, 08.51:28   #27-0 (permalink)
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Count me in
If it helps to have a more competitive team and I arrive home every other Saturday in a good mood; then her in doors will sanction it

If have to get out of the dodgy league and take the extra ££££££? For being a main stream league club
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It's probably wrong to describe BTB as 5,000 fans contributing an average of £20 each to raise £100,000. Amongst the 5,000, there are probably many who haven't made, or haven't been able to make, a contribution, while there are also many who have contributed much more than £20 each.

I agree that it would provide an incentive for agents' greed if there was total transparency with the use of BTB. It might be better to issue a statement saying something like:

"These (names) are the players who we would not have if fans hadn't raised £100,000 in 12 months for that purpose. If you agree that this has made a difference this season, please help us achieve even more next season by raising at least the same again."

Many fans will recognise that BTB has made a positive difference, but others don't know much (if anything) about it! Shout it from the rooftops so that everyone can see the good it has done. Without it, we could still be worrying about getting 50 points and staying up!
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Old 10th February 2018, 09.11:48   #29-0 (permalink)
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I'm all for it like most of us on RP but it can't be left to the same minority all the time. I enquired before xmas how many raffle tickets were returned out of the 6000 books sent out. It would appear not all are in the same mindset. But onwards and upwards for me.
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[QUOTE=TWREX;2114066]I'm all for it like most of us on RP but it can't be left to the same minority all the time. I enquired before xmas how many raffle tickets were returned out of the 6000 books sent out. It would appear not all are in the same mindset. But onwards and upwards for me.[/QUOTE

This maybe true, but has donating to BtB caused any financial issues for the fans who have supported it's iniatives, likewise with club membership, thefore happy days. Buying STs is a bit different as it is one hit, but a few quid here and there from a greater majority of fans makes the BtB's success sustainable.

Those who want do their bit will and it is unlikely fans will pay more than they can afford. The more difficult thing for me is sustaining all the effort and time of the volunteers who make the iniatives work. These people are the real heroes in its success but if we win today and stay top of the league, we can all take some satisfaction in that, we helped make this happen. Success breeds success but it needs a catylist to get things started, whether it be the prudent administration of the Trust, the shrewd appointment of Keates or BtB or just our luck, but our crowds are increasing and we are going in the right direction.

The club has been in dire straights financially for the best part of 15 years and certainly since administration and exiting the NL and we have had plenty of doom & gloom to moan about, feeling sorry for ourselves or for others giving up altogether. There are many to blame for the state of things, why we went into administration, why we got relegated, why we lost our assets, why we couldn't just bounce back, why we have been here 10 years, but at the end of the day, there is only us fans who truly care.

Our current situation is proving, that we are starting to put that behind us and that is all down to enough fans wanting it enough. If the goal of promotion isn't completed this season, then we need to ensure we keep improving things and persuading a bigger majority of our fans to get involved on the back of seeing the difference it makes.

Everyone should take confidence in the way the off the field activities have been turned round by the Trust(ourselves) and DK and his staff have turned things around on the pitch, so let's keep the faith, jointly we can make it happen.
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