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Old 13th February 2018, 21.06:11   #11-0 (permalink)
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I read somewhere that they have made it clear that if promoted, they would use the E.F.L. money to re-lay their pitch.
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I read somewhere that they have made it clear that if promoted, they would use the E.F.L. money to re-lay their pitch.
The boss was fuming over having to use the money https://www.chesterchronicle.co.uk/s...-over-14249284
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I read somewhere that they have made it clear that if promoted, they would use the E.F.L. money to re-lay their pitch.
That is right, at least according to the none league London football grapevine, of which I know the odd person involved (not quite that much a geek myself!): it's definite if they go up they'll replace it with a compliant pitch for the football league.

They want to go up and are aiming to do so, whereas other clubs with plastic pitches, certainly Maidstone but query also Borehamwood and Bromley wouldn't be looking to go up at this stage.

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Football is played on grass I would like to see the National League ban all non grass pitches
Simply stating "football is played on grass" is a non-argument. There are World Cup qualifiers, Champions League games, FA Cup games and an entire women's international tournament played on them...but not in the league in England. You can play on a sandpit at Rochdale, a ploughed field at Oldham or what is basically green coloured marshmallow at Newport but no, it's Sutton who are wrong. In years to come people on the wrong side of this debate will look like dinosaurs, and that's because they are. This position doesn't stand up to even a scrap of analysis.
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I read somewhere that they have made it clear that if promoted, they would use the E.F.L. money to re-lay their pitch.
Yes but what a huge disadvantage for them, everyone else spends that money on their teams while Sutton spend it on their pitch, Sutton also lose the revenue that the plastic pitch has been creating and potentially have to pay back any grants they received for laying it if they rip it up.

I really do wonder if going up is actually beneficial to them as a business, maybe if the just roll over for us on Saturday then everyone is a winner????
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Everyone needs to forget about Sutton and their plastic pitch. They will be aiming for promotion just as much as everyone else.

They have contingency plans in place. The Football league are voting on the inclusion of 3G pitches in their June meeting. Even if they say yes, it is unlikely that they will be in place until the 19/20 season. Sutton have said if this is the outcome they will groundshare for a season with say, AFC Wimbledon and then return to their pitch the following season. This will be allowed in the Football League.

If, However, the Football league vote against 3G pitches then they have said they will have to lay a grass one for the 19/20 season (unless they are relegated back of course!).

Sutton are not about to throw in the promotion towel or hold back in games as that is unprofessional and pretty much cheating.

And how would you feel as a footballer playing for them if you were 'told' no promotion.

No, Sutton are just as much promotion candidates as we are. We can't hope that the 3G pitch issue helps us gain promotion in some way. We need to do it ourselves by winning as many of the last games we can.
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Most premier league teams use Desso GrassMaster systems, not plastic pitches like the one being discussed, but in terms of jumpers for goal posts play on grass.... most top stuff has a synthetic element
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Simply stating "football is played on grass" is a non-argument. There are World Cup qualifiers, Champions League games, FA Cup games and an entire women's international tournament played on them...but not in the league in England. You can play on a sandpit at Rochdale, a ploughed field at Oldham or what is basically green coloured marshmallow at Newport but no, it's Sutton who are wrong. In years to come people on the wrong side of this debate will look like dinosaurs, and that's because they are. This position doesn't stand up to even a scrap of analysis.
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they are unacceptable too. But so are the ball running out of play, no slide tackle bouncey bouncey "pitches".

A decent grass pitch is a must and should be the standard.
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they are unacceptable too. But so are the ball running out of play, no slide tackle bouncey bouncey "pitches".

A decent grass pitch is a must and should be the standard.
A point of view which is years out of date. If that was what you got on 3G then the players of the WPL, written off as pub players by many on here, wouldn't be coping. But it has improved the quality of football there immeasurably. It's good enough for a level of football way beyond the WPL or League 2 (anyone recall any real complaints when England played on one in Russia over a decade ago?) so let's cut the crap and avoid the lazy arguments. Even if you had a point, which you don't, there are no minimum standards so for the teams with 3G to be the only ones forced to meet any is mental.
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as sure as eggs are eggs plastic pitches will be in L1 and L2 within 5 years .

its getting more popular plus it is a revenue stream for grass roots football teams .

the racecourse would earn a fortune ,plus we can train on it all week .

as peter kay would say its the future
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