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5th March 2018, 13.48:47 | #1-0 (permalink) |
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Boring managers that we love to hate.
There's little doubt that John Neal was one of not the most popular managers we've ever had. He had charisma as well as success during his time with us. Denis Smith was charismatic too, and we enjoyed a great promotion with him. We might even forget that we were relegated once when he was manager. Some other managers have struggled to capture our support and loyalty. Then there are those managers who haven't managed us... take Sam Alardyce for example. Fans of the teams he's managed just haven't taken to him. And if the fans don't like him, maybe the players don't either... and then what happens? This article on MSN Sport is interesting - even thought provoking: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/foot...cid=spartanntp DK might be safe in that department - most of us appreciate the blood and guts he put into every game as a player (except one maybe!) and that helps to carry him through his management apprenticeship. We used to like Dean Saunders too for a while, but many Wrexham fans dislike him intensely now - and the MSN article tells us he's wrong in his belief: "Last night on talkSPORT, Dean Saunders tried to sell the old idea that just being in the Premier League was the ultimate thing at any cost, regardless of the quality of the entertainment on the pitch or in the dug-out. But that’s just not true. Managers now get sacked for being boring and playing boring football. Fans want fun. Not just hanging on. And that’s not in any way unreasonable. We've done much more than just hang on this season. Probably. Yet, there have been many games where we've been doing just that, but have managed to do no worse than most of our rivals - and find ourselves in a respectable league position - even if most feel we could have done a whole lot better, if only... Is there a danger that DK's charisma will wear thin if - obviously (say it often) - we drop out of contention over the next few games? Or if we have many more bore-draws, or Heaven forbid we lose the will to fight for every remaining point in the run-in. Is he another John Neal in the making, or might he begin to resemble a loser instead of a winner? Is he really motivating the players - or it our seeming inability to finish-off so many opponents whom we should be beating a symptom that all is not quite right? |
5th March 2018, 15.41:12 | #2-0 (permalink) |
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Re: Boring managers that we love to hate.
After our recent history successful and attractive football is too big an ask at this stage, I'd take boring successful football initially and we can then work on a more attractive style of play when we are established back in the league.
I appreciate many on here see our play as unattractive and unsuccessful at the moment given number of drawn games however I believe we will win enough to get into the playoffs and our hard to beat style might work well for us there Posted via mobile theme |
5th March 2018, 15.51:37 | #3-0 (permalink) |
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Re: Boring managers that we love to hate.
A lot of our fans are so fickle that DK can be the messiah one week and then after a poor performance some are after blood.
His project will take 2-3 years and we should give him that time. Have Leeds been successful with their constant chopping and changing? |
5th March 2018, 17.08:38 | #4-0 (permalink) |
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Re: Boring managers that we love to hate.
Going back a bit I think we used to hate Gordon Lee with
his Port Vale promotion side from the old Fourth Division Their style of play was not attractive I seem to remember
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5th March 2018, 17.24:44 | #7-0 (permalink) |
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Re: Boring managers that we love to hate.
Ultimately the style did for Wilkin here as much as anything else. There's plenty of chat about senior players being gobby but they'd have only had to be tolerated for two more months if there had been a desire to back the manager, but nobody had that desire.
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5th March 2018, 17.40:31 | #8-0 (permalink) |
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Re: Boring managers that we love to hate.
Denis Smith was charismatic too, and we enjoyed a great promotion with him. We might even forget that we were relegated once when he was manager.
Just to put the record straight Sir Denis wasn't really at fault for our relegation in the 04/05 season, okay so we didn't have enough points to stay up that's obvious but we were deducted ten points for going into administration, without the deduction we would have had 53 points and finished 19th and Milton Keynes would have gone down instead. Just sayin'
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