Personnel or mentality?

[billybersham]

Originally Posted by Foxy

He won’t be here much longer. A club will come in for him and he will go. I half expected him to go in January because that’s what we usually do. Instead this year we excedeed ourselves by letting the manager go.

He is head and shoulders better than the present team,he deserves better.

[moynkeepthefaith]

Originally Posted by billybersham

He is head and shoulders better than the present team,he deserves better.

Don’t agree that he is head amid shoulders above manny. He is more motivational but ,for me, manny is a technicality better player.

[davewilli]

Originally Posted by billybersham

Many fans are happy with mid table after four years of struggling,we are a top six budget and we should be in the top six,Keates did nothing special and bored me to tears with his football,i am sure Tranmere would not be happy with mid table football but as we have seen they are more ambitious than Wrexham fc.

Which Wxm fan is happy with mid table, I'm a bit if an exile other than on match days but every Wxm fan I know (who actually gives a fig) about the club, expects Wxm to be challenging for promotion and would be devastated if they don't make the play offs. Where some of us differ, we could see real progress under Keates and willing to be patient and accept football based more on grinding out results than free scoring/flowing if it meant a shot at promotion in his first full season, whilst putting the building blocks in place to ensure we do not suffer the indignity of any more mid table finishes.

It is now hypothetical, but he wouldn't have got the same licence next season, but this season the way I see it, it was was a necessary means to an end that looks like achieving the first objective of reaching the play offs.

[billybersham]

Originally Posted by davewilli

Which Wxm fan is happy with mid table, I'm a bit if an exile other than on match days but every Wxm fan I know (who actually gives a fig) about the club, expects Wxm to be challenging for promotion and would be devastated if they don't make the play offs. Where some of us differ, we could see real progress under Keates and willing to be patient and accept football based more on grinding out results than free scoring/flowing if it meant a shot at promotion in his first full season, whilst putting the building blocks in place to ensure we do not suffer the indignity of any more mid table finishes.

It is now hypothetical, but he wouldn't have got the same licence next season, but this season the way I see it, it was was a necessary means to an end that looks like achieving the first objective of reaching the play offs.

So next season we start another three year plan under another manager,i keep on hearing we are better off than 12 months ago, but we under achieved for 4 seasons.Who will we have trust in for next season?

[davewilli]

Originally Posted by billybersham

So next season we start another three year plan under another manager,i keep on hearing we are better off than 12 months ago, but we under achieved for 4 seasons.Who will we have trust in for next season?

Hopefully not, we are knocking on the door this season so we need to build on that if we don't make it this time. It appears we are progressing off the field so hopefully whoever gets the job will have an improved budget to add some quality to the squad already signed up.

[billybersham]

Originally Posted by davewilli

Hopefully not, we are knocking on the door this season so we need to build on that if we don't make it this time. It appears we are progressing off the field so hopefully whoever gets the job will have an improved budget to add some quality to the squad already signed up.

Well said dave,i can not argue with that.