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Old 4th April 2018, 18.25:59   #51-0 (permalink)
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How the hell Wedgebury didnít get a booking for his foul?

Thatís how bad of a referee he is.
Yes he was lucky. My thought at the time he was going sideways and not towards goal could be the only reason for not getting another yellow. Ref was certainly not taking into account the conditions.
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When a referee favours your opponents by letting them get away with obvious dives, niggling challenges and a blatant disregard for the rules, while you and your team are punished by him at every opportunity - especially those that are questionable, it's easy to see how teams either become mouthy, or shy away from situations where challenges are required but fear of being unfairly penalised steps in. We saw both of those at times over Easter. While it isn't a good excuse for players failing to deliver what supporters of a team aiming for promotion expect, it is inexcusable for a referee to be so bad at his job that an entire season's aspirations can be destroyed by him at a stroke.

Have we reached the stage that football needs to reconsider the application of its rules and remember that it is not a ballet dance? The likes of Joey must think the game's become a farce in comparison with his era - when men were men, and refs were less like a bunch of baby minders crossed with star struck prima-donnas. Or maybe it is simply high time that refs were subject to far greater scrutiny of the matches they take and the decisions they make. Why is it that the media never challenges refs about their decision-making or their control of the game? Why are they elevated to god-like status where they can't be challenged about decisions they make - on the day they make them?

Over the weekend, one commentator stated that a penalty or a sending-off can be a game-changer, and that there must be certainty on the part of the ref before making such a decision. He MUST see the offence before making that decision, and if he is unsighted or unsure then he MUST NOT be influenced by players, the crowd, or even the other match officials, instead allowing the game to continue uninterrupted.

There is still no guarantee that justice will be done, one way or the other, but such one-sided decisions as led up to Roberts' red card yesterday must not cause matches to become a parody.
With regard to the commentator saying the ref must see it he is wrong. The ref can be advised by any of the other officials.
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Fugazi: Read the rubric of my previous reply to you in another thread that you refer to. I am merely posing a question based on info. from a confidential source which I hope for Roberts' sake is incorrect. The fourth official may possibly have made his decision to intervene within such a context.

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Fugazi: Read the rubric of my previous reply to you in another thread that you refer to. I am merely posing a question based on info. from a confidential source which I hope for Roberts' sake is incorrect. The fourth official may possibly have made his decision to intervene within such a context.
The reply that I give you there applies exactly the same here.

The fourth official spoke to him about the crotch grabbing. "Confidential source of information" my arse, there would be absolutely no need for this 'info' to be confidential at all. You've been called out for trying to pin a racism badge on Roberts for no reason and are now trying to backtrack.

If the club comes out with a statement that he's sent off for racist comments I'll apologise to you. I don't think I'll be making that apology any time soon.
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With regard to the commentator saying the ref must see it he is wrong. The ref can be advised by any of the other officials.
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Maybe my comment wasnít clear. The commentator was expressing his own thoughts on the matter, and not the law.

The arrogant attitudes towards the laws of the game shown now by many players and referees arenít in the spirit of the game. Sportsmanship has vanished to be replaced with cynical and sly tactics designed to deceive refs who counter this by trying to become the new ďstars of the show.Ē

IMHO that demands a change in the way that the rules are applied, along the lines expressed by the commentator. When the ref is unsighted, other officials should advise, but not adjudicate.
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Maybe my comment wasnít clear. The commentator was expressing his own thoughts on the matter, and not the law.

The arrogant attitudes towards the laws of the game shown now by many players and referees arenít in the spirit of the game. Sportsmanship has vanished to be replaced with cynical and sly tactics designed to deceive refs who counter this by trying to become the new ďstars of the show.Ē

IMHO that demands a change in the way that the rules are applied, along the lines expressed by the commentator. When the ref is unsighted, other officials should advise, but not adjudicate.
They do only advise now. Once the they have told the ref what's happened it's upto the ref what he card is issued. They can suggest a red or yellow card but ultimately the red makes the decision.
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Retaliation is what I would expect from a pub team player. Our lads are all professionals, and thatís how I expect them to behave. Perhaps the ref knows more than us or perhaps the officials didnít see the whole picture. That said, when you make your living from the game, you have to act like a pro. No sympathy for our lad at all. Soz.
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The sending off is just another example of ill discipline after DK has left.
Getting involved in a stupid situation with a player that clearly knows how to dive and con the ref.

Why get involved?
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The sending off is just another example of ill discipline after DK has left.
Getting involved in a stupid situation with a player that clearly knows how to dive and con the ref.

Why get involved?
Exactly, no need to get involved.
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Exactly, no need to get involved.
We will see if Roberts has a case if we appeal.
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