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Old 18th April 2018, 06.27:46   #28-0 (permalink)
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RP likes to see the post-match players' ratings. They are all a matter of opinion - understandably.

Every time we acquire a new player, we want him to turn in an 8, 9, or a 10 in the next ratings thread, and if he doesn't, he's quickly labelled as another failure.

It occurs to me that DK (and others before him) brought many players in to do specific jobs - not to be world beaters, as those would be out of our league, literally!

After watching Wrexham all my life until I emigrated, I have to say that very few players I see in the highlights would rate more than a 4 or a 5 if measured against those seen in past years, and yet many fans expect so much more.

Yes, we've been in this infernal league for 10 years, which is the longest of the current clubs. While that obviously means we haven't been promoted back to L2, it also means that we haven't suffered either by being relegated to a still-lower league, as have Chester, Northwich, Stockport, Kidderminster, York, Boston, Darlington, Southport, and Telford, as just a few examples.

My expectations of watching us play League football again in the future are not diminished, but there's no guarantee that ANY manager, ANY budget, ANY player(s) will take us there, as there are another 23 clubs sharing that expectation with only two teams escaping upwards each year.

Finding the right combination of manager, coaches, budget, goalkeepers, defenders, midfielders and strikers that can compete CONSISTENTLY against the combinations in place at every other club, in matches where referees, linesmen, and fourth officials ALL need lessons in applying the rules correctly, fairly, impartially, and consistently is a lottery. Combine this with other clubs who target successful managers and players for their own teams, and the result is inevitably a lottery - particularly when 50% of the clubs who have been promoted do so not based on a season-long consistency, but on the footballing equivalent of a casino where one spin of the dice may favour the least successful of the season's play-off participants, as has happened several times. The second-placed team has only won once that I can recall (Carlisle 2004/5) since 2 promotion places were granted in 2002/3!

We've seen the front-runners beating each other throughout the season. No one team had been truly dominant from start to finish. THAT was the real reason why we were leading the league just 12 matches ago, and sitting in 3rd place 4 games ago.

We still have a faint chance of a play off place IF we gain maximum points out of our remaining two games AND those around us drop points as well.

There ARE no guarantees in this game, and the fans of 22 clubs are going to be disappointed (if not livid!) EVERY season.

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Old 18th April 2018, 06.45:07   #29-0 (permalink)
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I think the point being spectacularly missed here is that the fans that are being asked to constantly dig in their pockets are purely that... fans. Not parents of a child needing to be nurtured correctly.
There were 5 to 5.5 thousand regular home fans up until Christmas when for me,the inactivity to get much needed personnel when it was clear to all they were needed, didn't happen.
Spectator numbers have tailed off since, that, despite us being in a play off position.
Now we are seeing a possible fresh disappointment looming in not making the playoffs after being there all season.
Now for me the fans have been spectacular in fund raising to keep this club going over the years and let's be fair are perfectly entitled to a gripe after what's starting to look like yet another barren year on the pitch.
We are this league's longest serving team. Does that not say anything at all ?
Season isn't over so let's pray a miracle happens. But if not, don't attack the hand that feeds the club, it is they, that needs nurturing, not the other way around and if those that run the club don't like to hear criticism if it's due, well, maybe it's not the personnel but the system thats failing.
Let's hope not and fans can be "encouraged" to continue their support.
Well said that man.
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I dont think they will employ anyone who challenges their Authority or even questions them in any way. They will want a Nodding Yes Man hope I am proved wrong and that they do something Ballsy
I think the last one they employed who was given virtual autonomy was a certain Gary Mills.
People then couldn’t believe (when things started going tits up), the things he and his assistant had been allowed to do (or more accurately, not do), like installing a table tennis table at the training ground, not scouting other teams, turning up twice a week, going down the boozer etc etc etc.

So let’s make sure they do that again, and give the new man the same free reign.
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It looks like the magic figure for the play offs will be 74/75. Or 2 wins ������ for us. So if we don't do this we would have fallen short by a handful of points. The question will then be how did that happen?. For me the answer is simple. DK leaving and the Incompetent board replacing him with AD. In my view some board members should resign as when previous bad decisions have been made ie Millsgate board members did the honourable thing.
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Lets see boreham wood get promoted a team that cannot achieve 4 figure gates at this crunch time of the season.
The football league is going to love a team that will have an average of less than 1k.
Come on now they will easily manage 1250. Some folk on here are acting like last night was the end of the world. I bet most of them didn't live through the days when we were consistently near the bottom of the football league. That was reason for despondancy. Tomorrow is always another day---and the day after.
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Another season in this poxy league. We as the laughting stock, of all in this league.
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It looks like the magic figure for the play offs will be 74/75. Or 2 wins ������ for us. So if we don't do this we would have fallen short by a handful of points. The question will then be how did that happen?. For me the answer is simple. DK leaving and the Incompetent board replacing him with AD. In my view some board members should resign as when previous bad decisions have been made ie Millsgate board members did the honourable thing.
Many folk, me included, thought it was the right decision. On this occasion I'd say more unlucky than incompetent. I don't think anyone could have predicted that the players and management would have bottled it in the way they have, and that's basically the bottom line.
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Come on now they will easily manage 1250. Some folk on here are acting like last night was the end of the world. I bet most of them didn't live through the days when we were consistently near the bottom of the football league. That was reason for despondancy. Tomorrow is always another day---and the day after.
You do realise we are in a worse position now footballing wise than when we were near the bottom of the football league
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Another season in this poxy league. We as the laughting stock, of all in this league.
No we’re not. No one cares much as we don’t care about others.
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