Sick of hearing the same old...

[Flumpadinks a RED]

Originally Posted by Liamkeatred

Can't produce a team with the gates we get to at least reach playoffs is a joke , we are in no worse situation than anybody above us it quite spells out the club is failing due to bad management at the highest level , you do need luck but also people who know about football . One day we will get there but not with what we've got running wrex fc now . The board knew what profits in Jan the club was going to make , why did we not spend to guarantee playoff spot , we would have got that money back on the playoff gates , it's not a gamble it common sense . The di hard red passion lot will shoot me down but I'm sick of cap
In hand build the budget , sell your kids etc always take retake and take the money of people who keep supporting this wonderful club. The facts are unless this club spends top dollar on a manager with proven experience we're going nowhere

Let's try breaking it down bit by bit.
Big gates guarantee nothing, big gates entitle us to bugger all.
Bad management... I think we're being run better than we ever have been what has been achieved off the pitch last 7years is remarkable.
We haven't had luck and id ask how many clubs at our level have anyone with football insight at board level?
The board will have had an idea in profit but nothing is guaranteed, we did spend on players, players we all regarded as good signings at the time. I don't know about you but I cant go shopping today with money I might have next week? Who would let me do that.... So we spent and playoffs aren't guaranteed. The way it works. That's football eh.

Top dollar on a manager, do we know how much this is? We thought Mills was an experienced man to get us sorted look how that worked. Proven managers at our level will be on way up and we can't expect anyone that's in L2 or about to be there to drop back down can we. So its my opinion we have choices of the managers that are on the conference merry go round and go club to club or another up and coming rookie. Who would put them selves on the block to make these though decisions eh.

[Zipper]

Originally Posted by JonWrexhamfc

We should be competing at the top end with average crowds of 4700. How a club like Borehamwood can finish above us with crowds of 400 is shameful.

Nothing to do with crowds just look at Bournemouth,its about who owns the club

[crazywelsh]

Originally Posted by Flumpadinks a RED

Let's try breaking it down bit by bit.
Big gates guarantee nothing, big gates entitle us to bugger all.
Bad management... I think we're being run better than we ever have been what has been achieved off the pitch last 7years is remarkable.
We haven't had luck and id ask how many clubs at our level have anyone with football insight at board level?
The board will have had an idea in profit but nothing is guaranteed, we did spend on players, players we all regarded as good signings at the time. I don't know about you but I cant go shopping today with money I might have next week? Who would let me do that.... So we spent and playoffs aren't guaranteed. The way it works. That's football eh.

Top dollar on a manager, do we know how much this is? We thought Mills was an experienced man to get us sorted look how that worked. Proven managers at our level will be on way up and we can't expect anyone that's in L2 or about to be there to drop back down can we. So its my opinion we have choices of the managers that are on the conference merry go round and go club to club or another up and coming rookie. Who would put them selves on the block to make these though decisions eh.

You say what has been achieved in the last seven years is remarkable but literally nothing really has been achieved, they used all of the money to clear the debts in their first season after two trips too Wembley. That was some time ago, from there doing that set the rot in after not signing adequate replacements for those players who left.

Point out with valid point what has been so remarkable and what evidence that we have never been ran so better?

[EnglishRed]

Originally Posted by crazywelsh

You say what has been achieved in the last seven years is remarkable but literally nothing really has been achieved, they used all of the money to clear the debts in their first season after two trips too Wembley. That was some time ago, from there doing that set the rot in after not signing adequate replacements for those players who left.

Point out with valid point what has been so remarkable and what evidence that we have never been ran so better?

He's talking about off field stuff. The football club is more than the first team.

[Flumpadinks a RED]

Yeah I did say off field. I haven't got exact figures to hand.
Wembley helped no doubt. What where we losing as a club per year approx 800k was it (I will check) plus we had a lot of debt. So to pay of such debt and to turn those significant losses into what we have now (off field profitability). To me is remarkable.

Evidence, let's cast my brain back to the 90s remember our club shop and think what we have now and what we can buy.
We no longer have news reports about not paying the tax man or threat of administration.

[alwaysred 45]

Originally Posted by Liamkeatred

Can't produce a team with the gates we get to at least reach playoffs is a joke , we are in no worse situation than anybody above us it quite spells out the club is failing due to bad management at the highest level , you do need luck but also people who know about football . One day we will get there but not with what we've got running wrex fc now . The board knew what profits in Jan the club was going to make , why did we not spend to guarantee playoff spot , we would have got that money back on the playoff gates , it's not a gamble it common sense . The di hard red passion lot will shoot me down but I'm sick of cap
In hand build the budget , sell your kids etc always take retake and take the money of people who keep supporting this wonderful club. The facts are unless this club spends top dollar on a manager with proven experience we're going nowhere

Agree with this 1000 percent shameful we never even made the playoffs this club is going backwards and I'm sick of listening to ,but we made a profit.what the flip is the profit for ?it needs to count on the pitch,going for promotion and the powers at b don't even get a manager in Disgraceful.I. I cannot believe what has gone on the last couple months.All this shit is Gona hit the club harder than we think.

[Flumpadinks a RED]

Backwards would mean this season is worse than last season. Which it isn't.

Style of play isn't great. The feels crap and feels worse because we where pushing and then flopped. We've all had that high of expectation thinking we could do it and we've fallen flat and that we all feel the same, rejected, angry and more.

[crazywelsh]

Originally Posted by EnglishRed

He's talking about off field stuff. The football club is more than the first team.

It’s the support of the first team that keeps the club in business, I’m still sticking to my original point the wst couldn’t manage a pissup in a brewery. There’s ego’s on that board who are nothing more than Christmas fund managers not directors this whole model will never work.

I’m extremely frustrated with all of it now the evidence is there just look at any final league table after the wst gain control, I think where we are now alongside running costs is where we are and that’s what our current budget and geographical position can get us compared to southern teams.

[crazywelsh]

Originally Posted by Flumpadinks a RED

Yeah I did say off field. I haven't got exact figures to hand.
Wembley helped no doubt. What where we losing as a club per year approx 800k was it (I will check) plus we had a lot of debt. So to pay of such debt and to turn those significant losses into what we have now (off field profitability). To me is remarkable.

Evidence, let's cast my brain back to the 90s remember our club shop and think what we have now and what we can buy.
We no longer have news reports about not paying the tax man or threat of administration.

The club can basically make 1000 a year profit and you are happy?

It’s not enough to get us out of this league they had the opportunity with the trips to Wembley, they should of cleared half of the debt and put the other half back into the team. If the debt was a major issue how could they have even looked at buying the club without a long term plan to pay the debt.

Some people who are that way inclined just want the ideology of a community club to work the truth is it’s falling short at every opportunity.

I’m sorry if it offends anyone but we will be having this same conversation next year.