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Old 15th April 2019, 20.44:49   #131-0 (permalink)
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Do you mean the fans or the club. Its been discussed before and at the risk of annoying someone from wxmfrontline we need to be better with the renewal system. Not everyone is as conscientious as you and others and need to be contacted more than once. It happened with me and I tested the process.

We need to be more proactive to grow the membership.
I dont know why we dont do birthday and xmas packages with membership as a part. For me we should have 1 set of people renewing and 1 set growing it.

The Gold bond which once stood at over 700 per week is falling rapidly (judging by the 2018 accounts info). So the strategies should be based on retain those left, renew those that have lapsed and grow new members. Some sort of agent system so that we can sell down other avenues. The DSA could sell and be rewarded with x amount back as commission. Thats how Blackpool grew theirs.

Just some suggestions.
Sounds good to me.

I know some are dismissive of the level of income these iniatives bring in or the club asking fans for a bit more, when many spend what spare cash they have at the turnstiles. I just feel we are way off achieving our potential, without fleecing anyone and there should be clear targets for growth year by year.
Old 15th April 2019, 20.47:51   #132-0 (permalink)
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Doesn't matter if they grow revenue by £500k and still make a £100k loss due to disastrous management decisions! There is no way they can grow the turnover by £500k the way things are going at the moment. Saying that they will probably include the Danny Ward transfer money and say job done to cover themselves!!
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I haven't read all before, but, we are looking at a £100.000 loss. Now I'm no Accountant but we are averaging 5.100 gate receipts. Ward money was estimated over Million the concert money well we don't know what came in there. So god help us if we have a poor season?
Ward was transferred to Leicester in July so it wouldn’t have been known at the time of this report, and therefore will have improved on the forecasted £100,000 loss. However, it should not be heralded as a step towards the targeted improved 3 year revenue plans.
Old 15th April 2019, 22.21:39   #134-0 (permalink)
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Just another piece of spin. The truth is we are destined for a life term of misery in this league under the current model. But that’s ok ‘cos Spencer’s ego says so.
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£15 payment or £12 by standing order is the minimum subscription but many upped payments to £5 per month (still less than 2 pints per month) to support the initiative of taking back the Racecourse lease. But it is not just the subscriptions, it's the knock on effect with buy in, increased loyalty, less resentment than putting their hard earned gate money in the chairman's pocket etc from the hardcore fans. I think the lessons from the Stoke game is fans will join and pay if it assists them get tickets for big games and in my opinion fans are less likely to cancel standing orders, once set up than not bother to renew membership with a one off payment unless they are purchasing season tickets.

Membership and gold bond are not unique to Wxm FC but they are the life blood for a fans owned club, so we need to go that extra mile.
I strongly suspect membership would be much lower if season tickets did not have the WST discount. Membership, in my view, is driven more by fan economics than belief or any feeling of affinity or otherwise to the WST cause.

Regarding the plan itself, most people would agree the broad aim but question deliverability based on track record.
Old 16th April 2019, 09.08:53   #136-0 (permalink)
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All good intentions..And everyone wants the club to prosper.....
But at the end of the day, it's the football on the pitch that generates, not only the real money, but interest in the club...
Get that right, and all these other things will follow and thrive....
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The reaction to things like this now is why there needs to be changes at club board level in the summer. After the January fiasco and the cover up anything the board say or do isn't trusted and Spencer in particular is in a no win situation because the trust from many fans has long gone.
He hasn't helped himself and has probably made things worse with stupid spin about the training ground and scouring the country etc and his latest tweet which can only be seen antagonising fans further is just daft, almost as if he's is enjoying the attention.
Its best for everyone before things come to a head.
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All this board stuff infact everything needs putting to one side until the season ends... Our concentration now has to be on the final games we need to be the 12th man at them all with great vocal support even if playing bad they need that boost.

We were on paper up against it in the play offs when we played Kidderminster, but the atmosphere that day drove the team on.

Plenty of time for recriminations end of season if we go up or stay down, serious mistakes after Ricketts left need answers.
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Just another piece of spin. The truth is we are destined for a life term of misery in this league under the current model. But that’s ok ‘cos Spencer’s ego says so.
When the owner of Village bakery is apparently told we're not interested, I'm inclined to believe you might be right.
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Old 16th April 2019, 11.21:53   #140-0 (permalink)
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When the owner of Village bakery is apparently told we're not interested, I'm inclined to believe you might be right.
I thought there was a process to be followed.
How could this happen if its in the constitution - what is your source?
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