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draigwrecsam 31st July 2018 13.56:00

Like for Like 2018-19
 
Under Construction

Updated. Construction completed. :hurray:

Canadian Dragon 31st July 2018 16.02:52

Re: Like for Like 2018-19
 
Glad to hear this. Just one small request. As we get older and the grey matter takes a little longer to process information, please donít make it too complicated. Thanks for doing this anyway, your efforts are appreciated.
Rae

draigwrecsam 31st July 2018 17.17:17

Re: Like for Like 2018-19
 
They are going to look much as last year apart, I hope, from the league position column(!).

I am looking at ways to simplify the information while still being able to see all the related stats on one page. If I come up with improvements, I will introduce them throughout the season. Suggestions for improvements (and error corrections) are always much appreciated.

Tomorrow, I will post the "starting position" which sees us in our usual 24th spot alphabetically. But this year we are rather far adrift, alphabetically, of 23rd place. :)

Hamilton Pathetic 31st July 2018 21.17:52

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If itís anything like last yearís I wonít bother looking at it.

RHYLRED 1st August 2018 07.03:55

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[QUOTE=Hamilton Pathetic;2168810]If itís anything like last yearís I wonít bother looking at it.[/QUOTE]

A bit harsh don't you think, he goes to a lot of trouble. Maybe you can do better?

Hamilton Pathetic 1st August 2018 08.37:43

Re: Like for Like 2018-19
 
[QUOTE=RHYLRED;2168841]A bit harsh don't you think, he goes to a lot of trouble. Maybe you can do better?[/QUOTE]

As one of the few who analyse the spreadsheets regularly (ask draigwrecsam) I was referring to the results not the stats themselves.

RHYLRED 1st August 2018 11.42:39

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[QUOTE=Hamilton Pathetic;2168859]As one of the few who analyse the spreadsheets regularly (ask draigwrecsam) I was referring to the results not the stats themselves.[/QUOTE]

Fair enough, misread you.

draigwrecsam 1st August 2018 12.56:58

Re: Like for Like 2018-19
 
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[quote=RHYLRED;2168928]Fair enough, misread you.[/quote]

It's his cleverly disguised, sardonic wit - easy to miss. But he has his uses, usually the first to pick up on my errors deliberately introduced to make sure you're all paying attention. :D

Here is the starting position. Cup stats will only appear after Cup games. Any suggestions on improving readability (other than fudging our league position!) are welcomed.

Hamilton Pathetic 1st August 2018 18.24:19

Re: Like for Like 2018-19
 
[QUOTE=draigwrecsam;2168956]It's his cleverly disguised, sardonic wit - easy to miss. But he has his uses, usually the first to pick up on my errors deliberately introduced to make sure you're all paying attention. :D

Here is the starting position. Cup stats will only appear after Cup games. Any suggestions on improving readability (other than fudging our league position!) are welcomed.[/QUOTE]

Bloody hell we haven’t played a game yet and we are already bottom of the League. Sort it draigwrecsam!

Reverse alphabetical order is a suggestion.


P.s. if I was pedantic, Beavon should have a capital L for loan as the other loaners.

draigwrecsam 1st August 2018 18.59:39

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[quote=Hamilton Pathetic;2169130]Bloody hell we havenít played a game yet and we are already bottom of the League. Sort it draigwrecsam!

Reverse alphabetical order is a suggestion.


P.s. if I was pedantic, [B]Beavon should have a capital L for loan[/B] as the other loaners.[/quote]

Capital L fixed already, in time for Saturday and, if you'd been a bit patient I'd have had Maguire-Drew in also!

I actually like us starting bottom, that way (hopefully) we leap up the table after the first game!

Hamilton Pathetic 1st August 2018 19.14:25

Re: Like for Like 2018-19
 
[QUOTE=draigwrecsam;2169148]Capital L fixed already, in time for Saturday and, if you'd been a bit patient I'd have had Maguire-Drew in also!

I actually like us starting bottom, that way (hopefully) we leap up the table after the first game![/QUOTE]

Who?

Anyway, at my age I haven't got time for patients, bloody clogging up the NHS.

draigwrecsam 4th August 2018 17.38:14

After Dover (A) VNL - 04/08/2018 (1-0)
 
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A nice start!

Please note that the PPG and some other stats don't start to have value until we are a few games into the season.

Constructive criticism of layouts is appreciated, as is notification that my deliberate errors have been spotted.

We're at the right end of the table and only 45 more games to play!

I got these out fairly quickly, do not expect this to be a benchmark. As in previous years I will endeavour, but not guarantee, to publish updated stats within 24 hours of the final whistle!

Lets enjoy the season!

Hamilton Pathetic 4th August 2018 18.31:07

Re: After Dover (A) VNL - 04/08/2018 (1-0)
 
[QUOTE=draigwrecsam;2170324]A nice start!

Please note that the PPG and some other stats don't start to have [B]valu[/B] until we are a few games into the season.

Constructive criticism of layouts is appreciated, as is notification that my deliberate errors have been spotted.

We're at the right end of the table and only 45 more games to play!

I got these out fairly quickly, do not expect this to be a benchmark. As in previous years I will endeavour, but not guarantee, to publish updated stats within 24 hours of the final whistle!

Lets enjoy the season![/QUOTE]


Not an auspicious start when there are errors in the post.

draigwrecsam 4th August 2018 20.01:49

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Already edited! Starting off perfect would set the bar higher than I care to see it! :D

Canadian Dragon 4th August 2018 20.29:49

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Is it me or does the results matrix need completing?

draigwrecsam 5th August 2018 11.24:17

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[quote=Canadian Dragon;2170383]Is it me or does the results matrix need completing?[/quote]

A bit of both! I abandoned the red/blue/green fill colours in favour of alternate row shading on account of a) it was a pain in the butt to do and b) I now have glaucoma and the row shading makes life easier for me. If it's a big problem, I can switch it back.

And, yes, it's all about me! :D

Hamilton Pathetic 5th August 2018 12.07:54

Re: After Dover (A) VNL - 04/08/2018 (1-0)
 
I've only given the stats a cursory glance but I notice that:

We are 7th according to you but 8th in the NLP and BBC, I'll give you that this is a minor point at this stage of the season.

I believe Deveredics was injured yesterday, not left out of the squad.

Can you explain to Andy Davies why, according to his managerial stats, he was in charge for 1 game, which he won, drew and lost twice.

Hightown Brymbo Red 5th August 2018 13.43:36

Re: Like for Like 2018-19
 
Forgot how poorly we started last season

draigwrecsam 5th August 2018 14.44:43

Re: After Dover (A) VNL - 04/08/2018 (1-0)
 
[QUOTE=Hamilton Pathetic;2170610]I've only given the stats a cursory glance but I notice that:

We are 7th according to you but 8th in the NLP and BBC, I'll give you that this is a minor point at this stage of the season.

I believe Deveredics was injured yesterday, not left out of the squad.

Can you explain to Andy Davies why, according to his managerial stats, he was in charge for 1 game, which he won, drew and lost twice.[/QUOTE]

I guess there are teething problems to iron out. Thank you for your prompt response, without you life could be very difficult - but liveable, just to reassure that I'm not totally dependent :D

draigwrecsam 5th August 2018 15.16:10

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OK, sorted.

At least the PPG had us 8th; the rest was down to haste because I'm actually very, very, not well and it's very, very hot and I'm sounding very, very like that orange man over the ocean - which is very, very bad.

I'm off for a very, very large hot toddy - see you Tuesday!

Canadian Dragon 6th August 2018 19.14:43

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Take care and look after yourself. Also, glad to see you take all the constructive criticism/jibes in the spirit they are intended. Wonderful job done!

Rae

draigwrecsam 8th August 2018 15.48:01

After Fylde (H) VNL - 07/08/2018 (0-0)
 
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Feeling much better, and last nights game was heartening too. I suspect Maguire-Drew got MOM mainly because of his solo run just before half time. For me, it was Young with Wright pushing him very, very close. And right behind those two had to be Pearson who put Rowe into his pocket and buttoned it up.

Two clean sheets, four points and lots of goals pending!

Hamilton Pathetic 8th August 2018 16.22:38

Re: After Fylde (H) VNL - 07/08/2018 (0-0)
 
[QUOTE=draigwrecsam;2171738]Feeling much better, and last nights game was heartening too. I suspect Maguire-Drew got MOM mainly because of his solo run just before half time. For me, it was Young with Wright pushing him very, very close. And right behind those two had to be Pearson who put Rowe into his pocket and buttoned it up. [/QUOTE]

Not clever enough, Mr d, I spotted your deliberate mistakes almost immediately.
Player Stats: Drew Drew, Barney McGrew is an Off not an On and Summerfield is an Off not a F.

P.S. I would have made Lainton MOM last night.

draigwrecsam 8th August 2018 16.59:10

Re: After Fylde (H) VNL - 07/08/2018 (0-0)
 
[quote=Hamilton Pathetic;2171746]Not clever enough, Mr d, I spotted your deliberate mistakes almost immediately.
Player Stats: Drew Drew, Barney McGrew is an Off not an On and Summerfield is an Off not a F.

P.S. I would have made Lainton MOM last night.[/quote]

I'll have to make them more obscure at the weekend. :D

There were several great performances last night, including Lainton, but I thought Young had the edge.

draigwrecsam 11th August 2018 21.28:38

After Boreham Wood (H) VNL - 11/08/2018 (3-0)
 
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After a shaky start it turned into a comfortable win. Seven points against 3 teams who were up there last year bodes well in my eyes. And it was nice to be top of the league for an hour or so - even nicer if we're there at the end of April.

Hamilton Pathetic 12th August 2018 21.50:04

Re: After Boreham Wood (H) VNL - 11/08/2018 (3-0)
 
[QUOTE=draigwrecsam;2172929]After a shaky start it turned into a comfortable win. Seven points against 3 teams who were up there last year bodes well in my eyes. And it was nice to be top of the league for an hour or so - even nicer if we're there at the end of April.[/QUOTE]

I believe and so does the NLP that Bwood used all 3 subs, two came on at 78 minutes.

draigwrecsam 13th August 2018 11.45:29

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So I got them as 77 minutes, not 78 - am I bovvered?

Hamilton Pathetic 13th August 2018 13.53:50

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[QUOTE=draigwrecsam;2173298]So I got them as 77 minutes, not 78 - am I bovvered?[/QUOTE]

Ok, I didn’t see the sub sub and thought you had missed one. BTW a minute’s a long time in football.

draigwrecsam 13th August 2018 14.14:23

Re: Like for Like 2018-19
 
OK, I've changed it to 78 for the historical record. Talk about picky, picky; sheesh, some people! :D

draigwrecsam 15th August 2018 10.56:16

After Maidenhead (A) VNL - 14/08/2018 (2-0)
 
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And we're top again, this time for at least 4 days. And to be top on GD is such a far cry from last season, when GD put us at the bottom of the list for teams on the same points as us! Twenty three teams have to play catch-up.

Hamilton Pathetic 15th August 2018 22.45:10

Re: After Maidenhead (A) VNL - 14/08/2018 (2-0)
 
[QUOTE=draigwrecsam;2174162]And we're top again, this time for at least 4 days. And to be top on GD is such a far cry from last season, when GD put us at the bottom of the list for teams on the same points as us! Twenty three teams have to play catch-up.[/QUOTE]

You’re not making it easy to find these errors but League Season to Date sheet shows our actual position as 5th. I know it’s difficult to believe but our actual position is top.........but you knew that anyway.

If you were being kind you could have said Roberts was out injured recovering from the stomach bug, but no, being the callous person you are you have reported him as being dropped. On your conscience be it.

Hamilton Pathetic 16th August 2018 06.39:49

Re: Like for Like 2018-19
 
P.S. JMD would probably like his two goals showing in the Vanarama League stats not just the overall competition stats.

I’ll admit that one was took time to find, well done.

draigwrecsam 16th August 2018 15.13:17

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You got 'em! My hero! :)

draigwrecsam 18th August 2018 13.19:28

Re: After Maidenhead (A) VNL - 14/08/2018 (2-0)
 
[quote=Hamilton Pathetic;2174335]..If you were being kind you could have said Roberts was out injured recovering from the stomach bug...[/quote]

Debatable. I read that all bug suffering players had recovered but, maybe you are right and he should not have been an x - I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. However, he's not listed today either so he's getting an x today!

I am fully aware that my stats are very influential in transfer negotiations and, if anyone comes for Roberts in January he might come looking for me! :hurray:

basdragon 18th August 2018 17.35:53

Re: Like for Like 2018-19
 
Is it too soon to do a like for like with the 98 point season ?

draigwrecsam 18th August 2018 21.44:45

Re: Like for Like 2018-19
 
I can give the occasional update on that!

basdragon 19th August 2018 07.13:10

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Brilliant ! Thank you

draigwrecsam 19th August 2018 10.35:35

After Eastleigh (A) VNL - 18/08/2018 (3-1)
 
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We're still top, we're still unbeaten, Fondop is still scoring - it's still our year!

draigwrecsam 19th August 2018 12.01:06

Re: Like for Like 2018-19
 
[quote=basdragon;2175140]Is it too soon to do a like for like with the 98 point season ?[/quote]

Back in those days, my stats were all in one big .txt file and very time consuming to update. Here's a synopsis:

[B]The 98pt season (2011/12) after 5 games[/B]

[B][I]Opening fixtures[/I][/B]

Sat 13/08 (h) Cambridge U ` 1-1
Tue 16/08 (a) Bath C` ` ` ` 2-0
Fri 19/08 (a) Lincoln C ` ` 2-1
Tue 23/08 (h) Tamworth` ` ` 3-0
Sat 27/08 (a) Alfreton`T` ` 4-1

[B][I]Overall[/I][/B]

PL5 W4 D1 L0 GF12 GA3 Pts13 ¶ DWWWW

[I][B]Goals[/B][/I]

Morrell 3
Speight 3
Tolley 2
Ciezlewicz 1
Harris 1
Pogba 1
Own Goals 1

[B][I]Table[/I][/B]

[I]Pos Team PL GD Pts[/I]

1 Wrexham 5 +9 13
2 Gateshead 5 +7 13
3 York 5 +6 10
4 Kidderminster 5 +3 10
5 Tamworth 5 +1 10
6 Luton 5 +6 8
7 Darlington 5 +1 8
8 Fleetwood 5 -1 8

We finished the season

PL46 W30 D8 L8 GF85 GA33 Pts98 ¶ LDDLWW with an average gate in regular season of 3,806

There was also a cup run where we beat York, Cambridge and Brentford to meet Brighton away in the 3rd round where we earned a replay. 8,316 fans saw a thrilling game at The Racecourse which ended 1-1. With no further goals in extra time, it went to penalties where Brighton edged it 5-4.

howardrd 20th August 2018 08.40:05

Re: Like for Like 2018-19
 
[QUOTE=draigwrecsam;2175373]Back in those days, my stats were all in one big .txt file and very time consuming to update. Here's a synopsis:

[B]The 98pt season (2011/12) after 5 games[/B]

[B][I]Opening fixtures[/I][/B]

Sat 13/08 (h) Cambridge U ` 1-1
Tue 16/08 (a) Bath C` ` ` ` 2-0
Fri 19/08 (a) Lincoln C ` ` 2-1
Tue 23/08 (h) Tamworth` ` ` 3-0
Sat 27/08 (a) Alfreton`T` ` 4-1

[B][I]Overall[/I][/B]

PL5 W4 D1 L0 GF12 GA3 Pts13 ¶ DWWWW

[I][B]Goals[/B][/I]

Morrell 3
Speight 3
Tolley 2
Ciezlewicz 1
Harris 1
Pogba 1
Own Goals 1

[B][I]Table[/I][/B]

[I]Pos Team PL GD Pts[/I]

1 Wrexham 5 +9 13
2 Gateshead 5 +7 13
3 York 5 +6 10
4 Kidderminster 5 +3 10
5 Tamworth 5 +1 10
6 Luton 5 +6 8
7 Darlington 5 +1 8
8 Fleetwood 5 -1 8

We finished the season

PL46 W30 D8 L8 GF85 GA33 Pts98 ¶ LDDLWW with an average gate in regular season of 3,806

There was also a cup run where we beat York, Cambridge and Brentford to meet Brighton away in the 3rd round where we earned a replay. 8,316 fans saw a thrilling game at The Racecourse which ended 1-1. With no further goals in extra time, it went to penalties where Brighton edged it 5-4.[/QUOTE]

Interesting stats.. eventual champions Fleetwood were 5 points behind at this early stage.
Last season, eventual winners, Macclesfield, only had 5 points from first 5 games and playoff winners, Tranmere, were not even in the running at Christmas!
Our 13 points is a welcome head start and we have a stronger squad and more experienced management behind them. Gates could be a good 50% higher than the 98 point season and we have the Danny Ward money to build a solid financial base.
Cautiously optimistic....
Two additional stats, if you have them would be to know, after the same number of games how many points (a) the current league leaders had and (b) the eventual champions had. If this was available week to week it would give a very clear indication of expectations. Keep up the amazing work!


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