BHS - Beavon ,Holroyd , Summerfield

[Alan Attack]

Originally Posted by davewilli

A good bit of realism. These players should improve as the season progresses, with more experience, work on the training ground and being pushed by the competition for places we now have this season. They will need to improve, looking at the current top 3, to have any chance of the championship we need to maintain the current points per game ratio.

It’s similar to us sending players out to the Welsh Premier or the leagues below uscin the English system.

I’d imagine Leo Smith is better than many of Llandudno’s players technically but when it comes to actually playing 90 mins of football on a Saturday afternoon, a lad who’s been doing it for 10 years plus is often better equipped.

From our position, we can’t afford for lads to be using us just for experience. Maguire-Drew should be better than that anyway as he’s already had a season at this level and games in the league above.

It’s all well and good being a technically good place. However, you need to learn how to put it into use in games and affect the final result.

[moynkeepthefaith]

Originally Posted by Alan Attack

I recall the H&W match; both Maguire-Drew and Pyke were very good. The former played without much luck as their keeper made a couple of good saves to deny him.

Given the fact both are young and in the Conference, they’re going to be inconsistent. I thought Pyke played well at Chesterfield and caused their right back trouble particularly in the first half.

If you’re expecting these lads to be good every week or every minute of every game, then they’re not going to be playing at this level. However, you just hope they can produce moments of excellence to influence games.

As such, if I’m choosing my strongest XI, on paper, both would start either side of Beavon or Holroyd but in reality Rutherford gives you a more consistent level of performance throughout the game. It’s not a bad predicament to be in as I don’t recall us having such resources in previous seasons.

Surely if Rutherford gives us a more ‘consistent performance ‘ he has to be selected? I’m honestly not sure what else the lad can do.

[Cartman]

Holroyd's made a career here of looking neat and tidy at home when we're expected to take the game to our opponents and then completely disappearing in every away game he's played in that wasn't Tranmere last season.

[Lods]

Originally Posted by Barry Diamond

No coincidence we were a different team with these three proper footballers starting - last time they were together at home we dismantled Ebbsfleet and today was best performance since then - beyond me how some don’t seem to rate rate Holroyd . If these three can play the majority of games we have a chance - all were superb today , made sure we retained and kept moving the ball unlike Tuesday night

I rate Holroyd quite highly. He's a clever footballer who seems to know where to be at all times. Reads the game as good as anyone we've had in our conference years.

[pagl]

Originally Posted by Lods

I rate Holroyd quite highly. He's a clever footballer who seems to know where to be at all times. Reads the game as good as anyone we've had in our conference years.

For me he has gone backwards from Jan last season.
Performances have dropped and maybe he hasnt got over that injury.
Sam has used him sparingly up to now. If he could recapture some form it would be like a new player at this point.

Its up to him now to perform and win a place.

[moynkeepthefaith]

Originally Posted by pagl

For me he has gone backwards from Jan last season.
Performances have dropped and maybe he hasnt got over that injury.
Sam has used him sparingly up to now. If he could recapture some form it would be like a new player at this point.

Its up to him now to perform and win a place.

I think this is fair - The injury's last season were early on and a bad one combined with late on in the season. I am not sure he is 100% match ready still but naturally we are now in a very critical phase. At present ,for me, he is a better option than Fondop.

[Red Light]

I watched Manchester City totally dismantle Southampton - the ball was played around with high tempo and intensity - and hardly went above knee height - it was highlighted that the City players were all moderately small in height - did we see a similar scenario by Wrexham against Gateshead ?

What are our strengths and what style of play suits us best ?

We look far, far better when players get the ball down and play football, quick, sleak passing and some pace - the one thing that can unlock the best defences. We have plenty of players who are prepared to chase and harry when not in possession or did on Saturday - Rutherford and Beavon especially but add Holroyd, Young and Summerfield - Jennings particularly provides a good additional outlet up the left flank.

Perhaps the two players who don't cover the same amount of ground with the same level of energy were those left out - JMD & Fondop.

It would be highly interesting to see the distances each player covers in a match - Rutherford in particular gets through an astronomical amount of work - he seems better prepared to deal with it this season - last season he would wear himself out by the hour mark.

Additionally, some players more than most need a decent run in the team, a number of games to build up match fitness and hopefully understanding - far better to play alongside the same team mates for a duration than continually changing - it could be argued now that, with just one game a week for the foreseeable (bar a cup replay) the need for rotation diminishes - however Ricketts also has the task of keeping everybody feeling loved and involved. Team selection as always will be interesting next Saturday.

[howardrd]

Originally Posted by moynkeepthefaith

I think this is fair - The injury's last season were early on and a bad one combined with late on in the season. I am not sure he is 100% match ready still but naturally we are now in a very critical phase. At present ,for me, he is a better option than Fondop.

Agree totally. He is more of a team player and creates space for others by drawing defenders out of position. It is no coincidence that we play with far more width when he plays. His match fitness is improving and so should his participation. With our improving midfield I see him as the key link going forward.

[shimosays]

Holroyd was the weakest link in our starting xi on Saturday. I’m not sure he’s really a fit in this team. We need more of a focal point at the centre of our front three. Fondop seemed like the best equipped to do that in the current squad, but his performances since the first month of the season have not been good.
We need a quality, experienced centre forward in January.
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