The Oldest Club in Wales? - not any more. - RedPassion.co.uk

BillEBadass · 25th November 2018, 15.37:20

According to the 'County Times' (23rd November 2018) Newtown are now the oldest club in Wales.

'new research has revealed that the Racecourse Ground Club was founded in 1884 are not the same Club that was founded in 1864 then folded after being expelled by the Football Association in 1883.
It means that the history of Welsh Football will now be revised with Newtown as the oldest Club still in existence having been formed in 1875.
The only other claimant, Cefn Druids, can trace their ancestry to 1872 but the modern day club was formed as recently as 1992.'

There is no surprise that this has come to light at a time when Newtown are tendering a bid for the Welsh Football Museum. They would stand more chance if they miraculously found another document suggesting that Newtown F.C. were originally founded in Cardiff.

Mid Wales punches well above it's weight with regard to the number of Clubs compared to the scarcity of the population, and the standard is very good. However is it now the 'home of Welsh football? I don't think so.

benwilliams · 25th November 2018, 15.40:12

What happened to 1873 then are we now even younger than we thought we were before the 1864 discovery?!!
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pagl · 25th November 2018, 15.41:28

Do we have another 150yr game then?

Rob · 25th November 2018, 15.45:39

County Times trying to be relevant again? Was going to fish out the last beef with Wrexham fans but found this gem I have not seen before that over reaches on historical references too.

https://twitter.com/CTSport/status/779643235224420352

"again with the history. You'd think Wrexham playing in England was as sacred as magna carta. Your just not that important."

EnglishRed · 25th November 2018, 15.52:58

New research by whom? The County Times?

Who are they?

SE19 Exile · 25th November 2018, 15.53:09

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Originally Posted by Rob

County Times trying to be relevant again? Was going to fish out the last beef with Wrexham fans but found this gem I have not seen before that over reaches on historical references too.

https://twitter.com/CTSport/status/779643235224420352

"again with the history. You'd think Wrexham playing in England was as sacred as magna carta. Your just not that important."

Perhaps the "journalist" should concentrate on his grammar before attempting relevance. Shouldn't Magna Carta be in capitals too? Tsk.

LMH23 · 25th November 2018, 17.12:04

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Originally Posted by BillEBadass

There is no surprise that this has come to light at a time when Newtown are tendering a bid for the Welsh Football Museum.

So when did the Welsh FA form and the national team play in Newtown then?

GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo · 25th November 2018, 18.09:21

The difference is Newtown have backers and a council willing to put money in, up in Wrexham, the council once again sit on their hands despite a push in recent years to increase tourism in the area.

Wrexham Council expect these sorts of things for free while wasting money on an arts hub that'll be mothballed in years to come.

GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo · 25th November 2018, 18.15:47

Newtown bid leader Ken Davies insisted the new discovery changed the history of Welsh football and hoped the WG would recognise the role of Newtown Football Club as the oldest club in the country.

“I am a Wrexham fan of over 50 years and helped date the club’s existence to 1864 but the current club was formed in 1884, making Newtown an older club and the oldest club in Wales.

Somebody needs to make their mind up, hardly new research either.

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BillEBadass Due a Testimonial Joined: Mar 2011 Racecourse Spot: Yale Stand Real Name: Bill E. Badass Twitter: @	The Oldest Club in Wales? - not any more. According to the 'County Times' (23rd November 2018) Newtown are now the oldest club in Wales. 'new research has revealed that the Racecourse Ground Club was founded in 1884 are not the same Club that was founded in 1864 then folded after being expelled by the Football Association in 1883. It means that the history of Welsh Football will now be revised with Newtown as the oldest Club still in existence having been formed in 1875. The only other claimant, Cefn Druids, can trace their ancestry to 1872 but the modern day club was formed as recently as 1992.' There is no surprise that this has come to light at a time when Newtown are tendering a bid for the Welsh Football Museum. They would stand more chance if they miraculously found another document suggesting that Newtown F.C. were originally founded in Cardiff. Mid Wales punches well above it's weight with regard to the number of Clubs compared to the scarcity of the population, and the standard is very good. However is it now the 'home of Welsh football? I don't think so. Last edited by BillEBadass; 25th November 2018 at 15.43:13..

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Rob Due a Testimonial (info 1 & 2) (info) Joined: Oct 2004 Racecourse Spot: Yale Stand Real Name: Rob Twitter: @	Re: The Oldest Club in Wales? - not any more. County Times trying to be relevant again? Was going to fish out the last beef with Wrexham fans but found this gem I have not seen before that over reaches on historical references too. https://twitter.com/CTSport/status/779643235224420352 "again with the history. You'd think Wrexham playing in England was as sacred as magna carta. Your just not that important."

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EnglishRed retired & running a pub Joined: Jan 2005 Racecourse Spot: Real Name: Twitter: @	Re: The Oldest Club in Wales? - not any more. New research by whom? The County Times? Who are they?

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GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo Taking coaching badges Joined: Feb 2012 Racecourse Spot: none given Real Name: none given Twitter: @	Re: The Oldest Club in Wales? - not any more. The difference is Newtown have backers and a council willing to put money in, up in Wrexham, the council once again sit on their hands despite a push in recent years to increase tourism in the area. Wrexham Council expect these sorts of things for free while wasting money on an arts hub that'll be mothballed in years to come.

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GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo Taking coaching badges Joined: Feb 2012 Racecourse Spot: none given Real Name: none given Twitter: @	Re: The Oldest Club in Wales? - not any more. Newtown bid leader Ken Davies insisted the new discovery changed the history of Welsh football and hoped the WG would recognise the role of Newtown Football Club as the oldest club in the country. “I am a Wrexham fan of over 50 years and helped date the club’s existence to 1864 but the current club was formed in 1884, making Newtown an older club and the oldest club in Wales. Somebody needs to make their mind up, hardly new research either.