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Old 1st December 2018, 16.05:16   #31-0 (permalink)
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Sounds like it.
Wasn't he backed with the signing of Lawlor and for a fee?

Also a larger number of loan players that we actually could play so it seems that he has been given enough money to spend. Also the Grant loan.


As said we now cannot sign anyone until Jan and is there anything to suggest that we cannot bring in some new additions.

The Ward money is a bit of a worry as that has all gone quiet but surely the FA Cup money and increased crowds gives us a fair pot for Jan.

Or do you have different information?
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I'd imagine the model and business plan was made fully clear to him from the outset and he said only in the last few days what a good working relationship he has with the board so if he's got greedy over transfer budgets, tried to move the goalposts, got reminded of the plan and has thrown a strop to join the inbred farmers then he can do one as far as I'm concerned.
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Ironically, the next manager will have more, a £200k game for the winners plus whatever the compo is.

Not a bad position to be in with January incoming and half a season to go.
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Wasn't he backed with the signing of Lawlor and for a fee?

Also a larger number of loan players that we actually could play so it seems that he has been given enough money to spend. Also the Grant loan.


As said we now cannot sign anyone until Jan and is there anything to suggest that we cannot bring in some new additions.

The Ward money is a bit of a worry as that has all gone quiet but surely the FA Cup money and increased crowds gives us a fair pot for Jan.

Or do you have different information?
Doesn't stop him for asking for more and being told no, if his heart ain't in it rightly he needs to leave.

He'll have been told all about the business model, plus the FA Cup run wasn't in the equation when he applied.
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Doesn't stop him for asking for more and being told no, if his heart ain't in it rightly he needs to leave.

He'll have been told all about the business model, plus the FA Cup run wasn't in the equation when he applied.
So how long ago did he apply then as the previous round was 11 November?
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So how long ago did he apply then as the previous round was 11 November?
Early on, hence the constant speculation up to now.
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Ironically, the next manager will have more, a £200k game for the winners plus whatever the compo is.

Not a bad position to be in with January incoming and half a season to go.
Agreed, he's maybe done us a favour as I said the other day
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Big Den was in the Directors Box at our last home game. If he has any ambition to be a Manager, no greater place than a town that loves footy and a club thatís close to his heart. Jon Askey would be less of a risk as he knows the terrain. I always thought that Fergy left this club when Big Brian got the job instead. Talk around the town was that the board would not promise Fergy the money he wanted to transform the club. Who knows?
As for Sam Ricketts - I wish him well. He has left us better than he found us. He is not a fan, he is a pro manager. Itís just a job. If my rival competitor company offered me big bucks, I would be off. Loyalty to family first. Still, there will be some on RP who will call him names. Back to school on Monday!!
I get what youíre saying, loyalty to family etc. Howís this for a scenario though. Local competitor comes and offers you the big bucks. Mid way through your first season, when really you have proven absolutely nothing, despite being at a big club, which admittedly has fallen on hard times. The way you did it was deceitful, and not at all in good faith, in fact there is suspicion you were illegally approached, something thatís going to be aired for all to see. Youíre already a millionaire, so donít really need the cash of that pay rise anyway. Six months later, you donít make the grade, the bigger competitor, already at the peak of their potential, but with unrealistic expectations, sack you. Youíre now a manager with a pretty chequered past, a history of being untrustworthy, youíve soured your reputation in the game, particularly in Wales, an area you have historically been held in high esteem by. 5 years later, Sam who? Sorry mate, no jobs here.

Compare to, taking a sleeping giant, back in to the league, then building on that success to make them back in to the lower league powerhouse they traditionally were, a few years later, maybe even a premiership club comes calling given your previous playing history. Your name is gold in the game, you keep that reputation as a top bloke, let the good times roll. Including for your family.

Like everyone today, itís a short term mindset that will come back to bite him on the arse. It always does.

No luck to Sam from me if this is all true, as far as Iím concerned the board should get security to escort him out in case he nicks something.
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Big Den was in the Directors Box at our last home game. If he has any ambition to be a Manager, no greater place than a town that loves footy and a club thatís close to his heart. Jon Askey would be less of a risk as he knows the terrain. I always thought that Fergy left this club when Big Brian got the job instead. Talk around the town was that the board would not promise Fergy the money he wanted to transform the club. Who knows?
As for Sam Ricketts - I wish him well. He has left us better than he found us. He is not a fan, he is a pro manager. Itís just a job. If my rival competitor company offered me big bucks, I would be off. Loyalty to family first. Still, there will be some on RP who will call him names. Back to school on Monday!!
Agree with most of this, but I really don't wish him well at Slops
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As a manager, if you donít get results, you are sacked (whatever your contract says) and conversely, if you shine, more affluent clubs will attempt to prise you away. These behaviours are not good, but itís the way that the game has gone. Sam Ricketts was never going to stay here for long (18 months), itís just unfortunate that he hadnít achieved promotion with us first.
This is how todayís managers operate, and is the way of the world.
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Early on, hence the constant speculation up to now.
Surely he should have communicated to the fans that there would be no signings in Jan then as he has always maintained he would improve the team if better players became available. He must have had budget to do this.

Given the Ward money then I find it strange.
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