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Old 1st December 2018, 22.20:49   #101-0 (permalink)
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I think Jussi will be gone too if SDR goes.
He was a very good prem keeper ,we’re lucky to have him.
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Old 1st December 2018, 22.21:27   #102-0 (permalink)
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Clubs 2 divisions above us?

Are you serious?
There are plenty who can't grasp it. It's baffling.

It's clearly a career progression in the fast paced job market that is football. Arguably, we have more potential than both of them but it counts for shit.

It's really shit how they've gone about it but it is a big jump in employment. People who think it's not a decent career progression are in denial.
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The point is that there are release clauses and release clauses.

There are ones like Ricketts obviously has which are of the come and get me kind, there are others which are prohibitive.

No-one has commented on the scenario I gave with Mourinho. 22nd May 2010, CL Final, the world, his wife and mistress knows he's going to Real Madrid and nothing has been confirmed or denied, just like Sam Ricketts. Does Inter tell him to stay at home, hand the reigns to Beppe Baresi or does it go ahead with him on the bench? Incidentally, 23rd May 2010 he announced he was joining Real Madrid.

The offer of the smartie is still up for grabs.

In another sport, Christophe Urios announced last week he's joining Bordeaux next season. Should Castres go the full season without a manager and also have themselves a little temper tantrum like the Wrexham board?
Top flight teams always have rumours flying round its common for players and managers to be linked to other clubs throughout most of the season (especially when a top team loses a few on the trot). They have more fans and are watched around the world by millions on TV. Therefore, rumours and links to other clubs is what makes people buy newspapers and read websites. Without it, journalists would be without a job.
Old 1st December 2018, 22.23:02   #104-0 (permalink)
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The point is that there are release clauses and release clauses.

There are ones like Ricketts obviously has which are of the come and get me kind, there are others which are prohibitive.

No-one has commented on the scenario I gave with Mourinho. 22nd May 2010, CL Final, the world, his wife and mistress knows he's going to Real Madrid and nothing has been confirmed or denied, just like Sam Ricketts. Does Inter tell him to stay at home, hand the reigns to Beppe Baresi or does it go ahead with him on the bench? Incidentally, 23rd May 2010 he announced he was joining Real Madrid.

The offer of the smartie is still up for grabs.

In another sport, Christophe Urios announced last week he's joining Bordeaux next season. Should Castres go the full season without a manager and also have themselves a little temper tantrum like the Wrexham board?
Your Mourinho comparison is flawed. For one thing, it was an end of season finale that wouldn’t lead to anything further for that season, tonight isn’t even half way through the season and could lead to a match in the next round. I’m guessing that you weren’t there tonight because I can assure you the atmosphere would have been toxic had Ricketts been in the dugout. Instead, his absence galvanised and united the support in one positive voice that did make a difference and visibly helped the players. Even for this reason alone it was the right call.

You really don’t see Ricketts’ “have his cake and eat it” mentality, not sure why. As a football manager (specifically) would you apply to manage another club but then be like “but I still want to manage the cup game tonight, I won’t be here if we get through, but go on please? Pretty please? It’ll annoy people me being there but go on please?”

By the way what’s with this “I’ll give you a smartie” nonsense? Makes you sound like a patronising tosser...
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He was a very good prem keeper ,we’re lucky to have him.
Yes I was shocked when he was announced as GK coach. Cracking keeper in the prem for Bolton.
Old 1st December 2018, 22.26:59   #106-0 (permalink)
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there something wrong if we keep being shafted by crap clubs like shrewsbury and walsaw
This is what Gauls me..Away from the politics of whatever's gone on..Being walked over by clubs like Shrewsbury... Able to do it, because we're Non League. But of course, in realty no bigger, in fact smaller than us...

I wonder what crowds Shrewsbury and Walsall would be getting, if they'd been Non League for over Ten years...
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Take passion out of it for a moment and look at it calmly. Imagine whatever line of work you're in, somebody comes along six months after you've started a new job and offers you a significantly more prestigious job (in terms of level, I don't think Shrewsbury are any more prestigious as a club than Wrexham are, actually I'd say the opposite going off history, but they are currently at a significantly superior level), far better tools to work with, more money to play around with and an enhanced wage. If you can honestly say you'd stay, fair play to you but I doubt too many people would.

Football fans expect a loyalty from what are in effect staff at their club that they wouldn't expect from anybody else in any other line of work. To Sam Ricketts, Wrexham is a job no different from yours or mine.

The decision to play arguably the most significant game of the club's season without a manager was f**king idiocy and as another poster said makes us look amateur as f**k.
Fair points, but he’s still a Cnut.
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Old 1st December 2018, 22.28:36   #108-0 (permalink)
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Why do I get a funny feeling the Shrewsbury Ricketts deal will fall through...
Old 1st December 2018, 22.29:58   #109-0 (permalink)
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I don't like it as a fan, with the tinted glasses that all fans have but realistically it is just a job.

Give one good dispassionate and objective reason why this isn't a job like any other.
Using your logic the club have acted like most other employers would act.

The head of operations tells his employer he is looking to leave to another competitor ( a competitor for players and staff perhaps). The competitor appears to have gained access to confidential information ( the sum required to trigger the release clause) potentially from the employee or his agent.

That employee would be placed on garden leave in almost all cases.

The club has done the right thing on the face of it,otherwise do they hang around whilst Sam makes up his mind? how long do they wait? what impact does it have on the team?


I don't blame Sam for trying to progress his career, but no one can complain about the club taking swift action to move on and not wait around for him to finish his negotiations with the shrews.
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This is what Gauls me..Away from the politics of whatever's gone on..Being walked over by clubs like Shrewsbury... Able to do it, because we're Non League. But of course, in realty no bigger, in fact smaller than us...

I wonder what crowds Shrewsbury and Walsall would be getting, if they'd been Non League for over Ten years...
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