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sparky 2nd December 2018 09.25:51

So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
Leaving aside the obvious banter, I think I'd be asking myself what's all the fuss about with regards to team Sam.

20 odd games in to his managerial career and whilst he's had a very good start, he's not looked like the second coming.

Our strength is there for all to see, and with the exception of the keeper, this was all put in place by last season's management so hard to give him much credit for that.

Midfield has improved, partly due to some decent player recruitment and having an extra body in there. Therefore possession stats look better but we still don't open teams up enough. If the shrews like getting drunk on meaningless stats they are in for a treat.

Up front at the business end of the pitch, well what can you say that hasn't already been said? A work in progress would be an understatement. Yes a lack of serious funds can be blamed for this, but I and many others would say this major problem goes deeper than simple player recruitment.

That said, I think most of us were generally happy with the job he was doing, could see some progression and from a pure footballing point of view would have preferred it if he had stayed. But if I'm a shrew, is that really worth pushing the boat out for ?

Then you have his integrity, or lack of it. Their last manager by all accounts lacked any kind of moral compass that didn't go down well and now they are going for someone who is cut from the same dirty cloth who is clearly going to jump at the first opportunity. I'd certainly be worried if he started giving out big juicy contracts.

Time will tell if they have made the right call and whilst any appointment is a gamble, this one poses far more questions than answers. Good luck Shrewsbury, you might just need it.

EnglishRed 2nd December 2018 09.34:21

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
I'd be very worried about this appointment as a Shrewsbury fan, just based on his inexperience (which a lot of our fans were). It's a very odd appointment given where they are. Where we are and how the last 10 years have gone we really had little to lose.

That said I have been consistently impressed by SRs comments after games. His general approach seems spot on and I do think he was showing signs of potentially being an excellent manager.

It's just that the league they are in and the financial outlay they make is potential enough?

Huffy 2nd December 2018 09.59:52

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
Hes mates with Coyne . If the team take to Ricketts , and he plays his cards right , can see it working well for them!!

There again --

Oswestryshrew 2nd December 2018 10.04:54

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
Not a lot of us wanted Ricketts to be honest. He’s inexperienced but it looks like his our
New man let’s see what happens

Red Light 2nd December 2018 10.28:03

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
Fully expecting Jaaskelainan to jump ship too and team up with Ricketts.

Could Ricketts be unveiled as the new manager of STFC before their cup tie this afternoon v Ssilly billyhorpe United ? no time like the present.

Although no official announcement Ricketts has burnt his boat at the Racecourse and even if he isn't appointed I can't see anyway back for him now. How true it is I do not know but I heard last night that Ricketts and Barrow have had an almighty training ground bust up over the move - perhaps all meaningless now as it wont change anything.

As for Shrewsbury taking a gamble on Ricketts - well we did with both Ricketts and Keates and it worked both times.

Hoping we land Askey ASAP - and just get on with it - if so it might work out better for us in the long term - I hope Graham Barrow stays - Askey & Barrow could be good.

welshian 2nd December 2018 10.37:29

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
Isn't the shrews caretaker coach also the goalkeeper coach? In which case jaaskelanan has no place to go.

Thought l read that somewhere.

Red Light 2nd December 2018 10.50:21

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
[QUOTE=welshian;2200929]Isn't the shrews caretaker coach also the goalkeeper coach? In which case jaaskelanan has no place to go.

Thought l read that somewhere.[/QUOTE]

Danny Coyne is indeed - but he's not Ricketts best mate - there again you may well be right - you just can't trust Ricketts even if your his best mate can you ?

welshian 2nd December 2018 10.57:54

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
[QUOTE=Red Light;2200949]Danny Coyne is indeed - but he's not Ricketts best mate - there again you may well be right - you just can't trust Ricketts even if your his best mate can you ?[/QUOTE]

Coyne must be quite well respected at the club (i assume), I cant see him being given the elbow - but there's obviously no loyalty in football.

Readred 2nd December 2018 11.02:50

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
[QUOTE=Red Light;2200949]Danny Coyne is indeed - but he's not Ricketts best mate - there again you may well be right - you just can't trust Ricketts even if your his best mate can you ?[/QUOTE]

I reckon best mate or not, Jussi told us all we need to know about what he thinks of Ricketts purely by being on the touch line last night.

redone 2nd December 2018 11.54:48

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
id have a tracur un cana reed or righ, chim chiminy chim chiminy chim chim cherooo we hate those bastard in yellow n blue

pjwales 2nd December 2018 12.02:43

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
Id say let G Barrow have the job with J J and Darlington,im not sure with Askey ok did a good job with Macc but not sure he would be ok here,just my opinion.

redtalk 2nd December 2018 12.05:10

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
[QUOTE=pjwales;2201003]Id say let G Barrow have the job with J J and Darlington,im not sure with Askey ok did a good job with Macc but not sure he would be ok here,just my opinion.[/QUOTE]

Would Barrow want it though, with all the pressure and extra work at the age of 64?

Deeside_Red 2nd December 2018 12.31:01

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
I wonder if GB worked with Big Den at Wigan ???? Big Den as a No1 with GB as his assistant ? could that work?

welshian 2nd December 2018 13.18:49

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
If I was a shrewsbury fan, I wouldn't be too hopeful of hanging on to this joker. They may be a league one club but are small fry compared to many others in that division and above. It wont be long before his 'ambition' leaves them in his wake.

willyheckerslike 2nd December 2018 15.15:03

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
The Slops are such a massive Club, Sam will be amazed at their size and resources......he might however have to get used to smaller home gates and a crap atmosphere from fans who know more about tractors than tactics......wonder if he attended their FA Cup home game today v Scunny with 3,400 others?......massive Club......massive:toilet:

Prodigal Dragon 2nd December 2018 16.21:37

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
[QUOTE=Deeside_Red;2201026]I wonder if GB worked with Big Den at Wigan ???? Big Den as a No1 with GB as his assistant ? could that work?[/QUOTE]

Bingo!:)

TaidTom 2nd December 2018 16.36:03

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
[QUOTE=Deeside_Red;2201026]I wonder if GB worked with Big Den at Wigan ???? Big Den as a No1 with GB as his assistant ? could that work?[/QUOTE]

If Big Den gets the job, it will be on Barrow's recommendation. That would do for me.

Zipper 2nd December 2018 16.53:45

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
Please tell me what ricketts has done
Its a fkin joke that Shrewsbury want him
It will end up in tears

corwenred 2nd December 2018 17.14:47

[QUOTE=Zipper;2201241]Please tell me what ricketts has done
Its a fkin joke that Shrewsbury want him
It will end up in tears[/QUOTE]

Tears of laughter on my part

the_holt_dragon 2nd December 2018 17.31:03

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
I think if your a Shrewsbury fan you give him a chsnvr and hope it works out. As Wrexham fans know the excitement about our managers on appointment has had zero correlation with results on the pitch.

RED2309 2nd December 2018 17.40:22

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
Shrewsbury fans will be busy sticking 6 fingers up to us!

pagl 2nd December 2018 17.50:34

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
I would be wondering about sacking an experienced NL manager and replacing him with one with 4 months. LOL.

the_holt_dragon 2nd December 2018 17.58:59

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
[QUOTE=pagl;2201258]I would be wondering about sacking an experienced NL manager and replacing him with one with 4 months. LOL.[/QUOTE]

Clubs in the premiership and championship have employed managers with zero managerial experience at any level.

WhiteKSE 2nd December 2018 18.05:25

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
[QUOTE=the_holt_dragon;2201264]Clubs in the premiership and championship have employed managers with zero managerial experience at any level.[/QUOTE]

Yep - just look recently at Henry, was doing punditry and assistant at Belgium then suddenly got such a high profile job with Moanco - Neville was similar when he went to Valencia. There is examples of it everywhere.

Zidane and Pep went from managing B teams (essentially reserves) to taking arguably the 2 biggest jobs in world football with RM and Barca.

pagl 2nd December 2018 18.10:43

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
[QUOTE=WhiteKSE;2201269]Yep - just look recently at Henry, was doing punditry and assistant at Belgium then suddenly got such a high profile job with Moanco - Neville was similar when he went to Valencia. There is examples of it everywhere.

Zidane and Pep went from managing B teams (essentially reserves) to taking arguably the 2 biggest jobs in world football with RM and Barca.[/QUOTE]

Which shows how difficult it is to judge management material. :)

the_holt_dragon 2nd December 2018 18.20:40

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
[QUOTE=pagl;2201271]Which shows how difficult it is to judge management material. :)[/QUOTE]

Agreed and probably loads of potentially great managers probably never get a second chance after not taking a first one.

Brinster 2nd December 2018 19.06:27

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
[QUOTE=pagl;2201271]Which shows how difficult it is to judge management material. :)[/QUOTE]

If information on here is to be taken as gospel, didn't Darlo recommend Ricketts to the board? Maybe he can come up with another unsung gem (used advisedly) as our next manager?

I wonder what Darlo's thoughts are on the behaviour (antics if proven) of his last recommendation?

Alan Attack 2nd December 2018 23.39:27

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
On what basis is Ricketts a better manager than the bloke he’s replacing?

Clearly retaining 3rd tier football is their objective but surely there are more proven names either currently available or in our division above Ricketts. You never know. In 5 years time he could be in the top flight or managing Telford.

the_holt_dragon 3rd December 2018 02.05:46

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
[QUOTE=Alan Attack;2201386]On what basis is Ricketts a better manager than the bloke he’s replacing?

[/QUOTE]

I wonder if there is some kind of stigma managing in the non league. Maybe if Ricketts had gone straight to Shrewsbury people wouldn't have thought anything of it.

When you consider Gerrard got the Rangers job and Lampard the Derby one, is Ricketts getting a smaller league one club that strange?

pagl 3rd December 2018 02.14:41

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
[QUOTE=the_holt_dragon;2201390]I wonder if there is some kind of stigma managing in the non league. Maybe if Ricketts had gone straight to Shrewsbury people wouldn't have thought anything of it.

When you consider Gerrard got the Rangers job and Lampard the Derby one, is Ricketts getting a smaller league one club that strange?[/QUOTE]

There is nothing strange. Some appointments are made on potential.
Thats how Keates got the job, narural leader and that means decision making.
Same with Gerrard.

You want a manager to take brave decisions, difficult decisions but with focus.
Ricketts does seem the type.

Lets face it Mills and even Wilkin made brave but BAD decisions.
We cannot just tolerate poor players, as I keep saying lose them.

noisy1 3rd December 2018 04.18:23

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
If I was a shrews fan I'd want the club to give Ricketts as long a contract as possible, if he only loses three matches out of 15, he will be off to Bolton or Hull asap.

Wopdragon 3rd December 2018 05.26:04

[QUOTE=noisy1;2201395]If I was a shrews fan I'd want the club to give Ricketts as long a contract as possible, if he only loses three matches out of 15, he will be off to Bolton or Hull asap.[/QUOTE]

Like a 3 year contract for example?
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noisy1 3rd December 2018 05.37:37

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[QUOTE=Wopdragon;2201396]Like a 3 year contract for example?
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Anything that gets them as much compo as possible when he f**ks off.

redavid 3rd December 2018 07.16:46

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
[QUOTE=noisy1;2201395]If I was a shrews fan I'd want the club to give Ricketts as long a contract as possible, if he only loses three matches out of 15, he will be off to Bolton or Hull asap.[/QUOTE]

And what if he lost hisfirst 10 ? and they wanted to sack him :(

CRUMBS 3rd December 2018 07.31:55

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
In actual fact i'm not so sure it will work out that great for Shrews if Ricketts gets the job , they've improved under Coyne and a new man may find it difficult to follow that , if he starts messing about with the team who knows what will happen . They obviously like it under Coyne .

techender 3rd December 2018 08.29:41

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
Ricketts has certainly sullied his reputation with his antics over the last few weeks. As I wrote before, we can do without his kind at Wrexham.

Nothing to do with his ambition (....many managers and players have that); but everything to do with his character and morals (or lack of).

Banes Red 3rd December 2018 08.37:57

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
...... I wouldn't want to play Wrexham in the 3rd round of the F A Cup - COYRs

gman74 3rd December 2018 08.45:48

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
[QUOTE=Banes Red;2201433]...... I wouldn't want to play Wrexham in the 3rd round of the F A Cup - COYRs[/QUOTE]

On the contrary. Wrexham away is a dream tie for many Salop fans, me included. It's been a while since we last played you and recent events would certainly ensure a brilliant atmosphere and a decent crowd.

Ooh aah Paskin 3rd December 2018 09.17:32

Re: So if you were a Shrewsbury fan
 
[QUOTE=Banes Red;2201433]...... I wouldn't want to play Wrexham in the 3rd round of the F A Cup - COYRs[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately even if that was the draw, there is the not so small matter of beating Newport away first!


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