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Old 10th December 2018, 13.24:50   #131-0 (permalink)
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Old 10th December 2018, 13.26:28   #132-0 (permalink)
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Agree. Furthermore, our performances in the 2 games since Ricketts left have shown a marked improvement.
I agree too, but I wouldn't put too much emphasis on 2 games, many teams have a change in form with a managerial change/temporary change. We inly have to remember last season some saying AD was a breath of fresh air with a more expansive approach in his initial games than that used by DK. I think the difference being GB is proven, vastly experienced and will have seen it all in his time.
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It's clear from interviews that the players have immense respect for GB, not sure that was the case with AD.
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Old 10th December 2018, 13.31:53   #134-0 (permalink)
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Or if some have agendas for a certain person to get the job here, continue to laud him and say "he's my choice" with little basis to that argument in comparison to other candidates.
That is all down to opinions.

You back Askey, and there are reasons why he might be the right guy.

But others - myself included - think last seasonís achievement might not be repeatable.

Askey is an experienced NL manager, which immediately sets off alarm bells in my head. Your fear seems to be that any up and coming newbee manager will up sticks at the drop of a hat. Keates and Ricketts supports your theory, but their actions are not guaranteed to be repeated.

Ultimately, choosing a successful manager has a big element of luck.

Furthermore, I agree that GB does not yet deserve cult status but, equally, you seem to want to skim over his proven experience - at a higher level than Askey. We are also playing better football since he took the reins.

Finally, having signed an assistant manager before appointing the manager is unusual and potentially disruptive. But only if the Board appoint the wrong man.
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Old 10th December 2018, 13.42:47   #135-0 (permalink)
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That is all down to opinions.

You back Askey, and there are reasons why he might be the right guy.

But others - myself included - think last seasonís achievement might not be repeatable.

Askey is an experienced NL manager, which immediately sets off alarm bells in my head. Your fear seems to be that any up and coming newbee manager will up sticks at the drop of a hat. Keates and Ricketts supports your theory, but their actions are not guaranteed to be repeated.

Ultimately, choosing a successful manager has a big element of luck.

Furthermore, I agree that GB does not yet deserve cult status but, equally, you seem to want to skim over his proven experience - at a higher level than Askey. We are also playing better football since he took the reins.

Finally, having signed an assistant manager before appointing the manager is unusual and potentially disruptive. But only if the Board appoint the wrong man.
It all points to the board having somebody in mind who Askey knows and has ok'd probably rules out Askey.

This would also suit the theory of the club doing succession planning.
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Old 10th December 2018, 13.46:36   #136-0 (permalink)
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That is all down to opinions.

You back Askey, and there are reasons why he might be the right guy.

But others - myself included - think last seasonís achievement might not be repeatable.

Askey is an experienced NL manager, which immediately sets off alarm bells in my head. Your fear seems to be that any up and coming newbee manager will up sticks at the drop of a hat. Keates and Ricketts supports your theory, but their actions are not guaranteed to be repeated.

Ultimately, choosing a successful manager has a big element of luck.

Furthermore, I agree that GB does not yet deserve cult status but, equally, you seem to want to skim over his proven experience - at a higher level than Askey. We are also playing better football since he took the reins.

Finally, having signed an assistant manager before appointing the manager is unusual and potentially disruptive. But only if the Board appoint the wrong man.
I back Askey only if itís between him and DL. Itís a no brainer.
One has experience in this league, years of it, the other has none.
One has recently had unexpected success, the other has none and isnít exactly ripping it up in his current job.
When did I compare Askey to Barrow? Iíll give barrow hero status when heís earnt it.

Applying your logic to recruitment outside of football would be laughed at but you seem to think itís fine to apply it here. Experience gets you the job. Itís really simple.
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Or if some have agendas for a certain person to get the job here, continue to laud him and say "he's my choice" with little basis to that argument in comparison to other candidates.
You're talking about yourself, right?
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I back Askey only if itís between him and DL. Itís a no brainer.
One has experience in this league, years of it, the other has none.
One has recently had unexpected success, the other has none and isnít exactly ripping it up in his current job.
When did I compare Askey to Barrow? Iíll give barrow hero status when heís earnt it.

Applying your logic to recruitment outside of football would be laughed at but you seem to think itís fine to apply it here. Experience gets you the job. Itís really simple.
your spot on the mark here PAA
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On no account should the club appoint Askey did ok after how many years at Macclesfield ? A complete flop at Shrewsbury not a patch in experience to Barrow give Askey a wide berth he's not for Wrexham. I for one will stop going if he becomes the manager. Useless prick wait till January which I think is on the cards then Dennis Lawrence will walk cos his contract is up with T.T.
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My only concern with Askey is his experience in non league! He has managed at this level all his career but only had one successful season. he 'Failed' at his stab of League management so does this tell us something?
Is this his level, and is he not actually that good at this level? Or have his hands been tied by budgets etc?

I'm not ruling him out but its not that sparkling a managerial career if you want to analyse it in depth.

On the other hand Lawrence has no experience in this league but has coached or managed at a higher level (just, in the case of T & T!) and would have Barrow alongside him for that experience of this level. Keates and Ricketts have surely got to be considered 'successful' despite their lack of experience as they have both been head hunted by league clubs, so inexperience should not be used as a dismissive element.

I don't know which way the board will turn but I don't think any choice or name put forward so far is a 'no brainer'.

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