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Jaded 9th December 2018 14.29:54

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[QUOTE=Lets Av A Riot;2205016]if MP is right.. im happy with that.. i wasnt too keen on Lawrence... im still hoping it will be Askey[/QUOTE]

Given all 3 of Askey’s managerial jobs so far have seen his teams have disastrous results early on, are you worried that he’ll have a similar start here?

EnglishRed 9th December 2018 15.03:41

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[QUOTE=krux;2205024]I would say 40k is reasonable for a div 5 manager. Its the lowest level that a manager can do the job full time so that seems reasonable to me
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40k a year?

That's not even senior manager pay in most jobs nowadays. Why would anyone be a football manager?

Corner Flag 9th December 2018 15.14:41

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[QUOTE=EnglishRed;2205033]40k a year?

That's not even senior manager pay in most jobs nowadays. Why would anyone be a football manager?[/QUOTE]

I would think our manager would be on at least £65k plus bonus and other extras anything less is peanuts.

Corner Flag 9th December 2018 15.16:54

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[QUOTE=EnglishRed;2205033]40k a year?

That's not even senior manager pay in most jobs nowadays. Why would anyone be a football manager?[/QUOTE]

Quite a few 9f our players are on more than that.

EnglishRed 9th December 2018 15.17:40

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[QUOTE=Corner Flag;2205036]I would think our manager would be on at least £65k plus bonus and other extras anything less is peanuts.[/QUOTE]

Yeah that's my take on it too. I am sure I heard someone mention Keates was on 70k. That seems about right.

EnglishRed 9th December 2018 15.18:26

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[QUOTE=Corner Flag;2205037]Quite a few 9f our players are on more than that.[/QUOTE]

Now that I can believe.

krux 9th December 2018 15.19:05

[QUOTE=EnglishRed;2205033]40k a year?

That's not even senior manager pay in most jobs nowadays. Why would anyone be a football manager?[/QUOTE]

Because you can earn a full time living doing it. If you are a football manager you can manage cefn druids or Northwich - how much do you reckon those lads earn?- or a nice 40 k as a full time boss in the cknfconference.
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EnglishRed 9th December 2018 15.30:43

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[QUOTE=krux;2205040]Because you can earn a full time living doing it. If you are a football manager you can manage cefn druids or Northwich - how much do you reckon those lads earn?- or a nice 40 k as a full time boss in the cknfconference.
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I don't imagine they are on much at all. But that is a far lower standard than we are.

How many hours do you think a full time Conference manager of a club the size of Wrexham puts in?

If the Wrexham manager is earning 35k I retract any criticism of Sam Ricketts.

fezbob 9th December 2018 15.42:11

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If there's not 100% certainty on the new man then I'm still struggling to fathom Barrow's extension.
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Jaded 9th December 2018 15.43:35

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[QUOTE=EnglishRed;2205043]I don't imagine they are on much at all. But that is a far lower standard than we are.

How many hours do you think a full time Conference manager of a club the size of Wrexham puts in?

If the Wrexham manager is earning 35k I retract any criticism of Sam Ricketts.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, 35k seems ridiculously low.

eosceiriog 9th December 2018 15.58:16

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[QUOTE=fezbob;2205047]If there's not 100% certainty on the new man then I'm still struggling to fathom Barrow's extension.
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At last a sensible view on the situation and it applies to player extensions as well.

Let's hope it is all under control!!!.

krux 9th December 2018 15.58:17

[QUOTE=EnglishRed;2205043]I don't imagine they are on much at all. But that is a far lower standard than we are.

How many hours do you think a full time Conference manager of a club the size of Wrexham puts in?

If the Wrexham manager is earning 35k I retract any criticism of Sam Ricketts.[/QUOTE]

I think the Wrexham manager and the top players would be on roughly £1knper week, hence 40k doesn't seem too out of line with my view
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tokyored 9th December 2018 15.59:59

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[QUOTE=eosceiriog;2205052]At last a sensible view on the situation and it applies to player extensions as well.

Let's hope it is all under control!!!.[/QUOTE]

Pearson had signed his new deal before Ricketts left. Just wasn't announced for some reason.

EnglishRed 9th December 2018 16.35:34

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[QUOTE=krux;2205053]I think the Wrexham manager and the top players would be on roughly £1knper week, hence 40k doesn't seem too out of line with my view
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We offer 52 week contracts font we?

Apparently a few years ago (2014) the average L2 managers salary was 50k. I'd imagine we'd have to offer similar level to that to remain competitive.

I have no idea myself but 35-40 seems very low. Somehwere between 50-70k seems more likely. But I really. Have no idea!

I'm the same 2014 LMA survey the average League 1 salary was between 75-100k

Todd Sweeney 9th December 2018 17.05:36

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[QUOTE=EnglishRed;2205062]We offer 52 week contracts font we?

Apparently a few years ago (2014) the average L2 managers salary was 50k. I'd imagine we'd have to offer similar level to that to remain competitive.

I have no idea myself but 35-40 seems very low. Somehwere between 50-70k seems more likely. But I really. Have no idea!

I'm the same 2014 LMA survey the average League 1 salary was between 75-100k[/QUOTE]

Yes, our contracts are 52 week ones.

Hightown Brymbo Red 9th December 2018 17.17:48

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Does anyone know the Compensation that was paid for Ricketts? That would give us an indication what he was paid?

panda23 9th December 2018 17.21:56

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[QUOTE=Hightown Brymbo Red;2205074]Does anyone know the Compensation that was paid for Ricketts? That would give us an indication what he was paid?[/QUOTE]

£65k was the figure I heard which seems about right?

John Neals Dynasty 9th December 2018 17.25:59

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We only need a manager until beginning of April then he will walk
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RED2309 9th December 2018 17.32:37

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Succession planning is a process for identifying people who can replace people when they leave.

I believe the club have done this type of exercise regarding players and staff so if DL has been crossed off then they move to the next candidate.

Back of the Kop 9th December 2018 17.34:06

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[QUOTE=krux;2205040]Because you can earn a full time living doing it. If you are a football manager you can manage cefn druids or Northwich - how much do you reckon those lads earn?- or a nice 40 k as a full time boss in the cknfconference.
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Stop talking soft.There's loads of unskilled factory workers earning 40k.

The Wrexham Manager is on 70k minimum

Hightown Brymbo Red 9th December 2018 17.38:30

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[QUOTE=panda23;2205077]£65k was the figure I heard which seems about right?[/QUOTE]

I heard 2 years pay was the compensation ( I heard 70k) which is similar to the figure you heard.That would give Ricketts 35k ayear
But not seen any official announcement which might indicate the compensation is not a huge figure

flintshirefan 9th December 2018 17.41:46

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110k

Alan Attack 9th December 2018 17.46:48

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[QUOTE=Hightown Brymbo Red;2205083]I heard 2 years pay was the compensation ( I heard 70k) which is similar to the figure you heard.That would give Ricketts 35k ayear
But not seen any official announcement which might indicate the compensation is not a huge figure[/QUOTE]

Ricketts would never be on 35k a year at Wrexham. Double it and you’d be closer to the mark

krux 9th December 2018 17.55:09

[QUOTE=EnglishRed;2205062]We offer 52 week contracts font we?

Apparently a few years ago (2014) the average L2 managers salary was 50k. I'd imagine we'd have to offer similar level to that to remain competitive.

I have no idea myself but 35-40 seems very low. Somehwere between 50-70k seems more likely. But I really. Have no idea!

I'm the same 2014 LMA survey the average League 1 salary was between 75-100k[/QUOTE]

Yeah 52 week contract , 50k ish. If you said 40k that's close.enough
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Back of the Kop 9th December 2018 18.22:16

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[QUOTE=Hightown Brymbo Red;2205083]I heard 2 years pay was the compensation ( I heard 70k) which is similar to the figure you heard.That would give Ricketts 35k ayear
But not seen any official announcement which might indicate the compensation is not a huge figure[/QUOTE]

Another one who thinks Wrexham Football Club pay their First Team Manager around the same as a packer in a factory.

Do you have a screw loose.

70k minimum is around the mark

Wxm_fan 9th December 2018 18.30:03

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Let me know when some packing jobs become available paying 35k

Back of the Kop 9th December 2018 18.35:44

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[QUOTE=Wxm_fan;2205100]Let me know when some packing jobs become available paying 35k[/QUOTE]

Let me know when the Manager of a fully professional football team earns 35k

Robin Coch 9th December 2018 18.49:53

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[QUOTE=Back of the Kop;2205102]Let me know when the Manager of a fully professional football team earns 35k[/QUOTE]

Let me know when a manager of a fully professional football team also has a job packing.

Rob 9th December 2018 18.52:00

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Let me know when a packing manager has 35,000 jobs

Hightown Brymbo Red 9th December 2018 18.59:57

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
[QUOTE=Back of the Kop;2205099]Another one who thinks Wrexham Football Club pay their First Team Manager around the same as a packer in a factory.

Do you have a screw loose.

70k minimum is around the mark[/QUOTE]

You know this for a fact?

Lets Av A Riot 9th December 2018 19.12:39

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[QUOTE=Jaded;2205029]Given all 3 of Askey’s managerial jobs so far have seen his teams have disastrous results early on, are you worried that he’ll have a similar start here?[/QUOTE]

regardless of who is brought in.... wether Askey, Lawrence .. Fergason or even his Dad .. there will be an element of risk... no guarantee they will hit the floor running.. and no guarantee they will do well long term.

i personally think we are only a star striker or 2 away from seriously challemging for the league title. we have money in the bank.. its the job for whoever comes in to identify and sign that player without breaking the bank.

redtalk 9th December 2018 19.27:32

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Wrexham's Graham Barrow would relish Dennis Lawrence reunion - [url]http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46501079[/url]

whead 9th December 2018 19.48:05

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[QUOTE=Wxm_fan;2205100]Let me know when some packing jobs become available paying 35k[/QUOTE]

I had some going a couple of months back.

Minimum wage plus bonuses for performance rather than all basic , but my best paid packer is on track for £47k this year. He really grafts for it. There are a couple of women on track to do about 43k too.

In a previous job it was quite normal for factory workers to make 50k with overtime and the o/t was at single time not time and a half.

So yes I can't see Ricketts having been on less than 50k.

Stafford Red 9th December 2018 19.51:52

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
[QUOTE=redtalk;2205117]Wrexham's Graham Barrow would relish Dennis Lawrence reunion - [url]http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46501079[/url][/QUOTE]

That definitely reads like it's a done deal. Would that have been released if there was any doubt?

fezbob 9th December 2018 19.56:07

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Either a tactic to entice him or a hint that it might be done. Unless Barrow's gone off message then the club usually drills people on what to say in those scenarios.
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don1 9th December 2018 20.52:32

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That's sloppy reporting by the bbc. Considering the bbc are televising the 3rd round game on the 6th Jan, it's poor for them to say the game is from the 4-7th Jan.

Birdy 9th December 2018 21.12:26

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[QUOTE=whead;2205122]I had some going a couple of months back.

Minimum wage plus bonuses for performance rather than all basic , but my best paid packer is on track for £47k this year. He really grafts for it. There are a couple of women on track to do about 43k too.

In a previous job it was quite normal for factory workers to make 50k with overtime and the o/t was at single time not time and a half.

So yes I can't see Ricketts having been on less than 50k.[/QUOTE]

Lol factory workers on 50k I have heard it all now.

Wirral Red 9th December 2018 21.21:54

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Let's face it all this is speculation and none of us has any factual knowledge.

whead 9th December 2018 21.28:27

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[QUOTE=Birdy;2205142]Lol factory workers on 50k I have heard it all now.[/QUOTE]

High wages is the main reason that site got closed. Basic for a night worker (4 nights on, 3 nights off) was about 35k but there was always plenty of overtime. That was 6 years ago.

Wrexham_fan_4eva! 9th December 2018 21.37:48

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[QUOTE=whead;2205144]High wages is the main reason that site got closed. Basic for a night worker (4 nights on, 3 nights off) was about 35k but there was always plenty of overtime. That was 6 years ago.[/QUOTE]

Some of the guys I come across with my job at factory’s are on £50k+


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