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redtalk 9th December 2018 21.44:54

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
[QUOTE=Wrexham_fan_4eva!;2205145]Some of the guys I come across with my job at factoryís are on £50k+[/QUOTE]

Suppose its your definition of a factory. I think joe public think factory is very basic low skill minimum wage jobs, whereas some factories are high tech requiring a high skilled workforce.

138+NotOut 10th December 2018 00.24:57

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
[QUOTE=tokyored;2205055]Pearson had signed his new deal before Ricketts left. Just wasn't announced for some reason.[/QUOTE]



Club spin machine

jonesfach 10th December 2018 07.52:04

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
[QUOTE=Wirral Red;2205143]Let's face it all this is speculation and none of us has any factual knowledge.[/QUOTE]

It was certainly more than £50k.

Phils-an-alki 10th December 2018 08.16:09

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
[QUOTE=Happy Larry;2204882]No that was me, to which my skybet willtestify. However Den with his long arms has moved the goalposts?[/QUOTE]

Are you telling us this or asking the question?

Gaz Wxm 10th December 2018 09.38:05

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
[QUOTE=tokyored;2205055]Pearson had signed his new deal before Ricketts left. Just wasn't announced for some reason.[/QUOTE]

No he didnít, as with Barrow a contract was discussed and agreed but was Signed last week

Wrexham_fan_4eva! 10th December 2018 09.43:39

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
[QUOTE=Gaz Wxm;2205195]No he didnít, as with Barrow a contract was discussed and agreed but was Signed last week[/QUOTE]

Pearson signed weeks ago.

fezbob 10th December 2018 09.45:29

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
So, is it true that Big Den has chosen to become a foreman at a factory on the industrial estate rather than join the reds or not?

John Neals Dynasty 10th December 2018 09.46:46

[QUOTE=fezbob;2205197]So, is it true that Big Den has chosen to become a foreman at a factory on the industrial estate rather than join the reds or not?[/QUOTE]



He won't need a Forklift to reach the top shelf
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CRUMBS 10th December 2018 09.55:58

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I presume he's priced himself out of the job , well hope so anyway , not a clever way to get into management is it , well a big game Tuesday then a good space of time til next league game to find right man .

dixienormous 10th December 2018 10.06:09

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
Has to be Challinor then.

WREX01 10th December 2018 10.12:03

[QUOTE=dixienormous;2205204]Has to be Challinor then.[/QUOTE]

If not Lawrence Iím expecting someone like :

Jussi
Russell
Toshack

I wouldnít be against Jussi getting it.
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redtalk 10th December 2018 10.19:10

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[QUOTE=WREX01;2205207]If not Lawrence Iím expecting someone like :

Jussi
Russell
Toshack

I wouldnít be against Jussi getting it.
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Is he interested? if so id be ok with this also

whitegatered 10th December 2018 10.20:53

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
Looks like he’s seeing out his contract with T/T then joining us.

Phils-an-alki 10th December 2018 10.20:55

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
Above all else our new manager has to; love the club, know the club, love the area.
Nothing else matters.

Red Dragon Froomie 10th December 2018 10.21:59

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
[QUOTE=whitegatered;2205210]Looks like heís seeing out his contract with T/T then joining us.[/QUOTE]

What a waste of time. He's not worth waiting for.

Phils-an-alki 10th December 2018 10.23:12

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
[QUOTE=Red Dragon Froomie;2205212]What a waste of time. He's not worth waiting for.[/QUOTE]

He is mate. His love for the club will conquer all.

southcoastexpress 10th December 2018 10.27:33

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
Would be very happy with Askey or Challinor if Fergie not interested.Not convinced Lawrence would be right so glad he has made high demands

Rhosymedre Red 10th December 2018 10.42:37

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
We have had a flood of applicants, there is no need to advertise positions in football these days." say's Spencer Harris.
As soon as the speculation was there around Sam, I was getting calls from people in advance of the actual announcement that he was going.

Alan Attack 10th December 2018 10.46:23

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[QUOTE=southcoastexpress;2205216]Would be very happy with Askey or Challinor if Fergie not interested.Not convinced Lawrence would be right so glad he has made high demands[/QUOTE]

Were you convinced Keates and Ricketts were the right men?

redtalk 10th December 2018 10.47:03

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[url]https://www.leaderlive.co.uk/wrexham_afc/17287629.wrexham-afc-are-in-good-hands-until-a-new-manager-is-appointed-says-spencer-harris/[/url]

Phils-an-alki 10th December 2018 10.47:14

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
[QUOTE=Alan Attack;2205224]Were you convinced Keates and Ricketts were the right men?[/QUOTE]

They clearly weren't though.

ugarte007 10th December 2018 10.52:58

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[QUOTE=redtalk;2205225][url]https://www.leaderlive.co.uk/wrexham_afc/17287629.wrexham-afc-are-in-good-hands-until-a-new-manager-is-appointed-says-spencer-harris/[/url][/QUOTE]

Non negotiable for the new manager to not work with Barrow. Its the strangest scenario I can remember. I really think we need Barrow but non negotiable?

Sounds like we are telling the new Manager that hes not actually the boss, how does that work.

Alan Attack 10th December 2018 10.54:50

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
[QUOTE=Phils-an-alki;2205226]They clearly weren't though.[/QUOTE]

Can you expand on that point

Phils-an-alki 10th December 2018 10.57:40

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
[QUOTE=ugarte007;2205227]Non negotiable for the new manager to not work with Barrow. Its the strangest scenario I can remember. I really think we need Barrow but non negotiable?

Sounds like we are telling the new Manager that hes not actually the boss, how does that work.[/QUOTE]

Its strange if they haven't appointed someone and cleared it with him first.

Its a weird way to go about things, I think they wanted to put some good news out there after Ricketts left but in hindsight probably should have waited on this one.

redtalk 10th December 2018 10.59:00

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
[QUOTE=ugarte007;2205227]Non negotiable for the new manager to not work with Barrow. Its the strangest scenario I can remember. I really think we need Barrow but non negotiable?

Sounds like we are telling the new Manager that hes not actually the boss, how does that work.[/QUOTE]

i suppose it is to minimise disruption if/when a manager leaves, which is understandable due to recent events.
Also if we are led to believe the Wrexham job is an attractive job, and GB is as experienced as they come, i don't think it should be too big a hurdle to overcome for interested parties.

ugarte007 10th December 2018 10.59:34

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[QUOTE=Phils-an-alki;2205229]Its strange if they haven't appointed someone and cleared it with him first.

Its a weird way to go about things, I think they wanted to put some good news out there after Ricketts left but in hindsight probably should have waited on this one.[/QUOTE]

Barrow even says he would tell DL what to do, in jest. If it works it works but its very very strange.

Phils-an-alki 10th December 2018 11.01:25

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
[QUOTE=Alan Attack;2205228]Can you expand on that point[/QUOTE]

Well, we're still in this league for starters, the right man takes us up in my opinion. And both of them couldn't wait to jump ship as soon as another carrot was dangled in front of them. So from that point of view were they the correct choice?

Ipswich Red 10th December 2018 11.02:08

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
Is this a case of Chinese whispers.? Did Den want £150K or...did the T&T football federation want £150K to allow him to sign?
I just can't see why Den would have applied knowing that he was going to be demanding that kind of wage. He knows we couldn't afford it.

Phils-an-alki 10th December 2018 11.03:06

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
[QUOTE=ugarte007;2205231]Barrow even says he would tell DL what to do, in jest. If it works it works but its very very strange.[/QUOTE]

I agree if it hasn't all been sorted and they're just waiting to announce it.

If they are still interviewing and haven't got their man yet it could restrict who they can get.

Alan Attack 10th December 2018 11.16:39

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
[QUOTE=Phils-an-alki;2205233]Well, we're still in this league for starters, the right man takes us up in my opinion. And both of them couldn't wait to jump ship as soon as another carrot was dangled in front of them. So from that point of view were they the correct choice?[/QUOTE]

Itís bloody frustrating when they donít see the job through. Both could have been but never gave themselves the chance.

However, whoís to say the next bloke wonít do the same...even Askey!

fezbob 10th December 2018 11.16:44

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
[QUOTE=ugarte007;2205227]Non negotiable for the new manager to not work with Barrow. Its the strangest scenario I can remember. I really think we need Barrow but non negotiable?

Sounds like we are telling the new Manager that hes not actually the boss, how does that work.[/QUOTE]

Unless it's signed and sealed then I just don't get it.

Barrow might be flavour of the month now after telling Ricketts what he thinks of him, but as well all know things can change very quickly at this club.

All it takes is a Davies-like run of bad results and his standing will take a hit.

Travis Bickle 10th December 2018 11.18:22

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
[QUOTE=Ipswich Red;2205234]Is this a case of Chinese whispers.? Did Den want £150K or...did the T&T football federation want £150K to allow him to sign?
I just can't see why Den would have applied knowing that he was going to be demanding that kind of wage. He knows we couldn't afford it.[/QUOTE]

How much is the Ricketts compo? Surly this ( if enough ) can be used as a signing fee for Big Den?

Superunknown 10th December 2018 11.21:13

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[QUOTE=Travis Bickle;2205239]How much is the Ricketts compo? Surly this ( if enough ) can be used as a signing fee for Big Den?[/QUOTE]

You cant be serious surely? Compo rumoured to be about 80k. Even if it was 150k, what a waste of money that would be. 150k would be more than enough to bring in a proper striker who can actually find the net, why waste it on someone who is either demanding way too much for the level he'd be managing or a tinpot football federation trying to strong arm us?

Funny_Old_Game 10th December 2018 11.25:27

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
Barrow has only been here 5 months, Iím not sure why we are treating him as though heís Joey Jones.

redone 10th December 2018 11.29:42

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
[QUOTE=Travis Bickle;2205239]How much is the Ricketts compo? Surly this ( if enough ) can be used as a signing fee for Big Den?[/QUOTE]

WHAT!!! nurse the screens

Wirral Red 10th December 2018 11.41:41

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[QUOTE=Happy Larry;2204873]Apparently Den wants crazy money?[/QUOTE]


This whole thread started with this unsubstantiated statement.

Bryn Tirion 10th December 2018 11.43:40

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
[QUOTE=Wirral Red;2205250]This whole thread started with this unsubstantiated statement.[/QUOTE]

Standard.

Bryn Tirion 10th December 2018 11.45:33

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
[QUOTE=Ipswich Red;2205234]Is this a case of Chinese whispers.? Did Den want £150K or...did the T&T football federation want £150K to allow him to sign?
I just can't see why Den would have applied knowing that he was going to be demanding that kind of wage. He knows we couldn't afford it.[/QUOTE]

We donít even know for sure if he has actually applied though.

Phils-an-alki 10th December 2018 11.47:01

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
[QUOTE=Funny_Old_Game;2205244]Barrow has only been here 5 months, Iím not sure why we are treating him as though heís Joey Jones.[/QUOTE]

Nor me. I think its because someone said he had SR by the throat but if you believe that you'll believe anything. And even if he did, it means nothing really.

Junior Shabadoo 10th December 2018 12.06:28

Re: Big Den rejects offer!
 
[QUOTE=Phils-an-alki;2205233]Well, we're still in this league for starters, the right man takes us up in my opinion. And both of them couldn't wait to jump ship as soon as another carrot was dangled in front of them. So from that point of view were they the correct choice?[/QUOTE]

Itís as correct a choice as you get in 2018. What Sam did (less so with Keates) was dirty but at some point we have to accept that this is the game now, all the way up to the top. Criticism of not taking us up barely applies in these instances given the timing of their departures. The sheer level of criticism aimed at both men for leaving shows you that both were right for the job.


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