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Old 18th December 2018, 10.14:53   #118-0 (permalink)
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One thing we can agree on.
Whilst I believe the council to be negligent and probably complicit in the UU mess then its a line under it for me.

However the current ground is just a financial drain. There is no return on investment and the Uni have landed themselves a white elephant and managed to pass over responsibility to the club and bag £100k pa in doing so.

The roof, floodlights, kiosks, toilets, general infrastructure and seating is basically not up to scratch and a series of high cost no return projects is needed.

Tech end Jonseys bar a shambles and they cant even switch TVs on before games. We lose potential revenue every game.

A new ground A483/Mold Road area direct links to/from roundabout and back out to A483 is the place. Big parking area, franchised hotel, gym, food outlets.
In ground hospitality etc. etc.

Ground built on current style and not the souless box some fear.
The current ground strangles our ability to grow.
What you say is right and I think deep down a lot of people are now starting to realise that but the issue is the sentimentality towards the Racecourse and can people get past that?
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I wonder if land up towards the Ruthin Road junction would be better suited.
The A483/Mold Road seems perfect to me as the train line is also just beyond Stansty Chain Road and a new platform could be built.
Egress onto the A483 would take away fans directly away from the stadium in coaches/cars.

The whole area is absolutely perfect for this. IMO.
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The A483/Mold Road seems perfect to me as the train line is also just beyond Stansty Chain Road and a new platform could be built.
Egress onto the A483 would take away fans directly away from the stadium in coaches/cars.

The whole area is absolutely perfect for this. IMO.
Is that the land where they have the circus, if so it could be a pain getting out on the Mold road.
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Is that the land where they have the circus, if so it could be a pain getting out on the Mold road.
We've has a few clowns on there in the past.
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With respect, what are asking WCBC for?

If you go back 15 years or so, Alex Hamilton suggested redeveloping the Racecourse for retail and building the club a new ground out of the proceeds. Whilst we all know this was utter bollox, the mere idea of selling up and leaving wasn’t even entertained. It was the Racecourse or nowhere.

In comparison to Swansea and Llanelli, both sold their historic grounds in the middle of their respective towns and moved. To be honest, I don’t know the inner workings of their moves so it’s not right to comment.

In an ideal world, we want a new stadium on the site of the current one which is a bit of a fantasy. If the university had the money and desire, they could create a cracking venue which they could share with the football club.

I made a throw away suggestion of moving a few years back and was accused of being Geoff Moss!
Swansea's ground was paid for in full by the council. The football and rugby teams lease it from them.
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Is that the land where they have the circus, if so it could be a pain getting out on the Mold road.
You would build proper infrastructure though, not just a gate. FFS.
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You would build proper infrastructure though, not just a gate. FFS.
It’s still effectively one way in and out which I believe Dagg is getting at.
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There was very little council funding for the Millennium either. They had a 46 million grant from the national lottery and the rest was taken on as a loan by the WRU which they are still paying off to this day.
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