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Old 9th January 2019, 12.07:12   #221-0 (permalink)
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I don't recall anyone saying he is.
He's been here a few years now though so shouldn't we see some of his top coaching reflected on the pitch? Our attacking play has been dire since he's been here as an example and we are often out thought by the better teams in this league. Or teams like Dover who consistently seem to out think us, as did Macclesfield. Just two examples.

So he's not the root of the problem but he is one of the constants throughout the last few seasons and under different managers the issue remained, i.e. creating scoring goals has been a huge problem still to be solved.
The answer is we have too many average and underperforming players, and I imagine it is difficult to coach them to be consistently better. If they were they probably wouldnít be playing in the NL.

We therefore need to recruit better quality players, and slowly get rid of those who arenít good enough. GB has started that process but it is too early to say how much success weíll have. It is very frustrating we cannot take advantage of our points tally, but I would be more concerned if we were Aldershot or Chesterfield. Ultimately, it all boils down to results, with the odd 5-1 (deserved) victory to keep morale high.

Letís see where we are come February before we throw the baby out with the bath water.

PS CD is part-time. The responsibility lies with the Board for appointing the right manager - the movement of Keates and Ricketts into the FL suggests they were good but imperfect appointments - and the allocation of sufficient funds. Itís then up to GB to spend it wisely. Jury is out at the moment, but GB needs to stop the rot and get us winning again.
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Old 9th January 2019, 12.07:50   #222-0 (permalink)
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Question that needs asking is why he was given a 2.5 year assistant managers contract extension when Rickets went. I still can't understand why that was done.
Baffling but we won't get an answer.
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Old 9th January 2019, 12.14:57   #223-0 (permalink)
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Question that needs asking is why he was given a 2.5 year assistant managers contract extension when Rickets went. I still can't understand why that was done.


Reading between the lines Barrow allegedly grabbed Ricketts by the throat and said to him you have lost me my job ( i could be wrong but that's what I was told) so he stood in and got a good performance against Newport with Ricketts team, the Board wasn't expecting Ricketts to jump so they weren't prepared for looking for another manager,don't forget the board is part time volunteers, a lot of hassle to start all over again so because we did well against Newport offered Barrow the job which he had no interest in he was happy as assistant hence the misguided contract.

I've watched all Barrows interviews and he hardly looks at the camera or who he is talking to, that strikes me as one of 2 things he is either shy or lacks confidence in him job.
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The answer is we have too many average and underperforming players, and I imagine it is difficult to coach them to be consistently better. If they were they probably wouldnít be playing in the NL.

We therefore need to recruit better quality players, and slowly get rid of those who arenít good enough. GB has started that process but it is too early to say how much success weíll have. It is very frustrating we cannot take advantage of our points tally, but I would be more concerned if we were Aldershot or Chesterfield. Ultimately, it all boils down to results, with the odd 5-1 (deserved) victory to keep morale high.

Letís see where we are come February before we throw the baby out with the bath water.

PS CD is part-time. The responsibility lies with the Board for appointing the right manager - the movement of Keates and Ricketts into the FL suggests they were good but imperfect appointments - and the allocation of sufficient funds. Itís then up to GB to spend it wisely. Jury is out at the moment, but GB needs to stop the rot and get us winning again.
Ah right so its all the players fault. You're generalising about many, many players we've had here recently many of whom we couldn't get a tune out of but other clubs do. Why is that?

Saying we just need better players is so simplistic.
We sign players who have had success in this league with other clubs, they come here and bang they just crumble.
So its either poor scouting and recruitment or we just don't have the manager or coaching staff to get the best out of them.

We haven't had consistent performances and goals from a striker for example since Moult left and we even under used him, leaving him out of the side for absolute dross.
How long will this be swept under the carpet for?
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Old 9th January 2019, 12.23:22   #225-0 (permalink)
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Baffling but we won't get an answer.
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This is going to be a question the board will face constantly. Baffling.
Old 9th January 2019, 12.26:28   #226-0 (permalink)
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This is going to be a question the board will face constantly. Baffling.
A board that's made up of fans gets away with so much more than your standard football board does. That may well be deserved or earned due to the time energy and effort required all unpaid to do so but does it work to be successful?
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Old 9th January 2019, 12.39:06   #227-0 (permalink)
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Ah right so its all the players fault. You're generalising about many, many players we've had here recently many of whom we couldn't get a tune out of but other clubs do. Why is that?

Saying we just need better players is so simplistic.
We sign players who have had success in this league with other clubs, they come here and bang they just crumble.
So its either poor scouting and recruitment or we just don't have the manager or coaching staff to get the best out of them.

We haven't had consistent performances and goals from a striker for example since Moult left and we even under used him, leaving him out of the side for absolute dross.
How long will this be swept under the carpet for?
Yes, it is a simple truth - but not simplistic - that we need better players. However, I am realistic enough to realise we cannot afford 20 top notch players, simply because we do not have the funds to do so. Consequently, we need a strong core of players, supplemented by players who we can develop, and some loanees that add immediate value.

The manager needs to manage and coach to get the best starting XI to play effective football by scoring goals and winning games. We have struggled to do this well for far too long.

Our current core strength is limited to Lainton, Lawlor, Pearson and Beavon. Our other players are not pulling their weight. Itís too early to state Grant, Oswell and Stockton wonít add value but, clearly, they havenít had an immediate effect.

My long-held belief is that our midfield is unbalanced and ineffective. That must be resolved ASAP if we are to get into the POs and be promoted. Something we all want and need!
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Old 9th January 2019, 12.45:13   #228-0 (permalink)
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A board that's made up of fans gets away with so much more than your standard football board does. That may well be deserved or earned due to the time energy and effort required all unpaid to do so but does it work to be successful?
I would suggest that most members of most Boards are volunteers and fans of their club. Why else would they do it?

Our Board decided to give GB a contract before their choice of manager was secured. It is a cross we have to bear, but it may yet work out. Patience is a virtue, especially after years of mismanagement, failure and disappointment.

PS What we lack is a contracted CEO who runs the club on a day-to-day basis, and reports to the Board. That would be a better addition than a Director of Football.
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Ah right so its all the players fault. You're generalising about many, many players we've had here recently many of whom we couldn't get a tune out of but other clubs do. Why is that?

Saying we just need better players is so simplistic.
We sign players who have had success in this league with other clubs, they come here and bang they just crumble.
So its either poor scouting and recruitment or we just don't have the manager or coaching staff to get the best out of them.

We haven't had consistent performances and goals from a striker for example since Moult left and we even under used him, leaving him out of the side for absolute dross.
How long will this be swept under the carpet for?
Agree with this.

You'd have to be a bluddy good striker to score in this team. Somebody who carves chances out for themselves. How many times do our strikers get a one on one in a game? maybe once every 4 games?
We dont create enough, and its not down to personnel, its down to style of play.

We are too scared to open up and play football because if we concede we do not have any belief that we can score 2+ to win.

We have come from behind to win once this season. There is no plan B in this team.
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[QUOTE=Prodigal Dragon;2218467]Yes, it is a simple truth - but not simplistic - that we need better players. However, I am realistic enough to realise we cannot afford 20 top notch players, simply because we do not have the funds to do so. Consequently, we need a strong core of players, supplemented by players who we can develop, and some loanees that add immediate value.

The manager needs to manage and coach to get the best starting XI to play effective football by scoring goals and winning games. We have struggled to do this well for far too long.

Our current core strength is limited to Lainton, Lawlor, Pearson and Beavon. Our other players are not pulling their weight. Itís too early to state Grant, Oswell and Stockton wonít add value but, clearly, they havenít had an immediate effect.

The fact Pearson was bollocking them on the pitch toward half time on Tuesday shows he still has heart. Thing is we are close to the top of the league, players should be thinking put a shift into tonight and its another step closer to a promotion on my CV. That's not happening and tbh it looks like a few players have given up.
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