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Old 11th January 2019, 12.47:47   #31-0 (permalink)
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I still don't buy into the theory that we can't afford a decent striker.

Our debts are cleared, we've received compensation for two managers in the last 10 months, we have the Danny Ward money, above budgeted attendances, and a run to the FA Cup 2nd round which while not lucrative was not originally budgeted for.

We're either holding onto the cash and reluctant to spend it for whatever reason or we're just spending it very badly. We obviously can't pay £4K a week or whatever Salford were paying Rooney, but we should be able to compete with the likes of Fylde and Orient for striking options. Obviously I mention them because they have the likes of Rowe and Bonne, we should be able to compete for those sort of players.

I've been very supportive of the club being cautious with money previously for various reasons but I can't see any reason not to 'go for it' now. Despite our last 3 results, we're in a position to potentially challenge for the title, and must be in a better state financially than we've been for a good while. The trouble now is the availability of players. We needed to do much better than Fondop in the summer, that was a massive error.

I don't think we need a change in ownership, we need a change in attitute to risk. Be cautious when we need to, absolutely, even when it's frustrating, but don't be afraid to spend when we have the opportunity.
Seeing as Barrow clearly wasn't first choice as manager, despite the garbage spouted by Spencer about being the outstanding candidate (if that was the case he'd have got the job over Ricketts in the summer) maybe the board just don't trust him to spend big?
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Old 11th January 2019, 12.50:56   #32-0 (permalink)
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Seeing as Barrow clearly wasn't first choice as manager, despite the garbage spouted by Spencer about being the outstanding candidate (if that was the case he'd have got the job over Ricketts in the summer) maybe the board just don't trust him to spend big?
I really hope that's not the case. We can't have a manager on a 2.5 year contract that isn't backed. Back him or sack him, as they say!
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Old 11th January 2019, 13.01:45   #33-0 (permalink)
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I really hope that's not the case. We can't have a manager on a 2.5 year contract that isn't backed. Back him or sack him, as they say!
Barrow quoted in local rag as being "given everything he has asked for"
Old 11th January 2019, 13.21:56   #34-0 (permalink)
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Barrow quoted in local rag as being "given everything he has asked for"
He's hardly going to say anything else though is he
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Old 11th January 2019, 15.15:06   #35-0 (permalink)
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I still don't buy into the theory that we can't afford a decent striker.

Our debts are cleared, we've received compensation for two managers in the last 10 months, we have the Danny Ward money, above budgeted attendances, and a run to the FA Cup 2nd round which while not lucrative was not originally budgeted for.

We're either holding onto the cash and reluctant to spend it for whatever reason or we're just spending it very badly. We obviously can't pay £4K a week or whatever Salford were paying Rooney, but we should be able to compete with the likes of Fylde and Orient for striking options. Obviously I mention them because they have the likes of Rowe and Bonne, we should be able to compete for those sort of players.

I've been very supportive of the club being cautious with money previously for various reasons but I can't see any reason not to 'go for it' now. Despite our last 3 results, we're in a position to potentially challenge for the title, and must be in a better state financially than we've been for a good while. The trouble now is the availability of players. We needed to do much better than Fondop in the summer, that was a massive error.

I don't think we need a change in ownership, we need a change in attitute to risk. Be cautious when we need to, absolutely, even when it's frustrating, but don't be afraid to spend when we have the opportunity.
Do we have the Danny Ward money? My understanding is that it was being paid in installments.
The signing of 3 players and making Lainton & Grant permanent is surely not a cautious approach.
The error made in my opinion was not signing a decent striker close season when some are likely to be out of contract so no fee required.
Fondop was a gamble that we could ill afford to take.
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Old 11th January 2019, 15.29:23   #36-0 (permalink)
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Bit ott that JND. Doubt anyone despises him, most just think he was utter dog shit for us, which he was.
Still makes me laugh all those that defended him on here. Its a fine example of how totally blinkered and deluded some people get about Wrexham players.
To be honest we have been utter dogshit since the team Saunders left apart from the first 3 months of Mills season, then after that he set the trend of dogshit signings which apart from defensive signings by Keates has continued.

I don't go along with this won't sign good strikers as won't pay for them, take Bonne for instance at Leyton Orient he was crap before they signed him, it's more down to poor coaching, poor scouting Fondup an example, the fat pub centre half/striker from Harrogate last season.

But spotting potential at this level is paramount, take Wright as an example has he really progressed since we signed him?
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To be honest we have been utter dogshit since the team Saunders left apart from the first 3 months of Mills season, then after that he set the trend of dogshit signings which apart from defensive signings by Keates has continued.

I don't go along with this won't sign good strikers as won't pay for them, take Bonne for instance at Leyton Orient he was crap before they signed him, it's more down to poor coaching, poor scouting Fondup an example, the fat pub centre half/striker from Harrogate last season.

But spotting potential at this level is paramount, take Wright as an example has he really progressed since we signed him?
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No progression whatsoever.

It brings you back to Carl Darlington. Hyped up to death on here with little to no evidence of his coaching coming through in terms of player development, tactics, attacking play etc etc. I don't get the hype at all and never have done.
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No progression whatsoever.

It brings you back to Carl Darlington. Hyped up to death on here with little to no evidence of his coaching coming through in terms of player development, tactics, attacking play etc etc. I don't get the hype at all and never have done.
The trouble (if you can call it that) with Darlington, I believe, is that he is a defensive coach. This was notable when he started his first spell at Wrexham AFC as there was a marked improvement in the defensive set up very quickly after he took up post.

Our defensive record with Darlington here has been very good but that is at the cost of our creativity and goal scoring.
The trouble is it is taking too long for those in charge to address this problem, Graham Barrow is moving in the right direction now but we should have pushed the boat out in the summer.

Fondop, as much as I criticise him, was a gamble and for a while it was looking good. Had he worked out, there is no doubt that the goals he could have scored would have seen us top of the table by now.
Is his loss of confidence down to Darlington's defensive coaching style? To be fair Fondop he is not the only striker who we have watched going off the boil under this coaching set up.

Now we have Newell on board and a few proper strikers brought in, could we see improvements sooner rather than later? If so will it be to the detriment of our defence?

Like I said it's just my opinion and I could be talking bollocks, wouldn't be the first time but that is just how I see it.
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Isnt Darlington In America this week ?? Whats the point ?

ANyone can set up with 7 behind the ball and concede few. Coaches worth their salt are able to set a team up to create/score chances. Since hes been about our scoring record has been abysmal. Make of that what you want.
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