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Old 11th March 2019, 01.00:44   #21-0 (permalink)
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I think the issues with the team going forward are tactical and, dare I say it, philisophical with focus on defending from the front. The players can't be faulted for their efforts but I simply don't think it is coincidence that we've cycled through a dozen strikers and they all look crap in our team.

The Beavon issue is a major one for me. He looks good at what he does but, in my opinion, it achieves absolutely nothing as a goal threat. He "makes life difficult" for the defenders and "wins more than he should for a man of his size" sound like positive statements but in practice it just means he is tussling with defenders throughout the game.

See it from the other side. As a centre half do you want a player like Jay Simpson (who is obviously too talented for this level but point still stands) finding space, turning and running at you with the ball at his feet or do you want to have a scrap with player 6 inches smaller than you for balls chipped in to the box? Even if he makes it difficult to distribute from the back, it's not as if our midfield are using the second ball to make chances in next phase.

Would love to have a good chat with Darlington about his ideology and if it's the reason why we have suffered from the same attacking problems for years whilst being so solid in the back 2/3rds of the pitch.
Totally agree, we have had to many forwards now who have done well initially and then after a few games suddenly just stopped scoring. Add the fact that they have been scoring before coming here and suddenly regained their form and goals once they have left and it's just too much of a coincidence.

Beavon does a brilliant job of hassling the opposition and works tirelessly up front. The problem is though it's great defending from the front but has little effect when he is the only player up there as we never press as a team and he is always isolated if he does win the ball. Just hope Hughes and Flynnie can sort it out and change our mentality and tactics as can't see any strikers getting many goals under the current set-up.
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Totally agree, we have had to many forwards now who have done well initially and then after a few games suddenly just stopped scoring. Add the fact that they have been scoring before coming here and suddenly regained their form and goals once they have left and it's just too much of a coincidence.

Beavon does a brilliant job of hassling the opposition and works tirelessly up front. The problem is though it's great defending from the front but has little effect when he is the only player up there as we never press as a team and he is always isolated if he does win the ball. Just hope Hughes and Flynnie can sort it out and change our mentality and tactics as can't see any strikers getting many goals under the current set-up.
I agree too. Feel sorry for whoever plays central striker in our set up, it's a kiss of death. Needs changing ASAP !
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Lainton 5 - Thought he should have done better for their goal and his kicking has gone to pot
Kennedy 5 - Did ok but not a right back.
Jennings 6 - Average performance didn't do much going forward
Pearson 7 - Solid performance as usual
Lawlor 7 - Solid performance as usual
Wright 4 - Goes missing every game for large periods. If he plays it has to be as an attacking position only. But in all honesty we need better.
Walker N/A Huge blow him going off as meant we had to rejig midfield which really killed us.
Young 6 - Average performances
Tollitt 6 - Started well then faded in and out of the game
Beavon 6 - He puts himself about well enough but has no goal threat. Time has come for him to be dropped to the bench. Oswell has to start now.
Rutherford 2 - Literally had a few touches in the first half and nothing else. I forgot he was playing. Dreadful. Not good enough despite running around a lot which seems to fool many fans. A headless chicken with zero goal threat and creates nothing. Needs to join Beavon on the bench for the remainder.

All in all a dreadful performance. I really fear the play offs because we just don't create enough chances for those types of games.
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That would be depressing.

I was hoping that was the last time Grant would wear a Wrexham shirt.
Same here. We got conned big time into giving him a contract till the end of the season.
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Dont think Grant played as bad as people are making out, not great but got himself involved and didn't hide tbf to him,can't be doing with this need to have a scapegoat on here all the time bollox and apart from Tollit nobody looked a threat or had a particularly great game.
I agree - but his movement/positioning is terrible at times.
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I forgot about Grant ironically. He did nothing so hardly surprising.
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Grants problem is he never actually looks fit and his lack of pace shows to be even worse in a team with no pace if that makes sense.

But let's be honest he was no worse Saturday than Wright Rutherford and Young and he has the excuse of lacking match fitness after being out for weeks.

Unless Flynn or Hughes know of any good midfielders they can get in on loan or even another winger to replace Tollit and play the new lad instead of run around contributing little Rutherford. And have somebody like Stockton alongside Beavon then nothing will change, so as I don't see any of that happening it won't change at all this season, let's hope the Hughes new manager bubble hasn't burst.

Anyone else wonder how little Brian Flynn could see over that barrier Saturday.
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Grants problem is he never actually looks fit and his lack of pace shows to be even worse in a team with no pace if that makes sense.

But let's be honest he was no worse Saturday than Wright Rutherford and Young and he has the excuse of lacking match fitness after being out for weeks.

Unless Flynn or Hughes know of any good midfielders they can get in on loan or even another winger to replace Tollit and play the new lad instead of run around contributing little Rutherford. And have somebody like Stockton alongside Beavon then nothing will change, so as I don't see any of that happening it won't change at all this season, let's hope the Hughes new manager bubble hasn't burst.

Anyone else wonder how little Brian Flynn could see over that barrier Saturday.
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Agreed with you about Grant, for me he's been the biggest let down of the season, my Fleetwood supporting mate was raving about him when I asked what he was like, he's obviously been a good player but he looks shot now, I keep hoping he'll 'come good' and show us what he's capable of but it doesnt look like that'll ever happen. If Walkers injury is bad I'd go for Kemy Augustein, think he's a free agent still, do a Beavon with him and just play him for 60-70 mins if he isnt match fit. Ha yeh I thought the same with Flynn and the barrier too!
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Agreed with you about Grant, for me he's been the biggest let down of the season, my Fleetwood supporting mate was raving about him when I asked what he was like, he's obviously been a good player but he looks shot now, I keep hoping he'll 'come good' and show us what he's capable of but it doesnt look like that'll ever happen. If Walkers injury is bad I'd go for Kemy Augustein, think he's a free agent still, do a Beavon with him and just play him for 60-70 mins if he isnt match fit. Ha yeh I thought the same with Flynn and the barrier too!
It's a strange one with Grant as when you see his higlights video on you tube i can understand your Fleetwood supporting mate raving about him as he looks the biz. Dont know what it is but like every other forward player we sign he started off looking pretty decent before going downhill fast. Just got to hope the two Brians can sort it coz something isn't right.
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It's a strange one with Grant as when you see his higlights video on you tube i can understand your Fleetwood supporting mate raving about him as he looks the biz. Dont know what it is but like every other forward player we sign he started off looking pretty decent before going downhill fast. Just got to hope the two Brians can sort it coz something isn't right.
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