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Old 13th March 2019, 19.35:57   #41-0 (permalink)
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Its opinion. Called it in Burgess and Grant and will call it on this one.

Happy to put £10 to your charity if he scores.

Lol Pagl I didn't say he was going to be a good signing infact I probably agree with you, what i meant about disagreeing was judging him after one game in a team of useless tossers. So agreeing and disagreeing might sound contradictory but you are probably right as for scoring I can't take that bet on in a team that thinks scoring is getting off with the local bike in a night club
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I think the lack of a reserve team hurts us in many ways. For example, trialists in the season are pretty much a no go and in a way it stops us from bringing through young players. If we had a reserve team, Stockton for example could have played 2/3 games for the reserves and then hit the ground running in our first team. Reserve teams have existed for a very long time and with good reason.
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I think the lack of a reserve team hurts us in many ways. For example, trialists in the season are pretty much a no go and in a way it stops us from bringing through young players. If we had a reserve team, Stockton for example could have played 2/3 games for the reserves and then hit the ground running in our first team. Reserve teams have existed for a very long time and with good reason.

Bang on the nail I've been saying this since the reserves were abandoned
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Simple, we pay peanuts.
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Seen plenty of comments on this thread about how much the loan players are costing...it may be feck all. It is not unusual for the parent club to pay some or all of the wages of the player.
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Old 13th March 2019, 22.37:21   #46-0 (permalink)
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We get excited, then disappointed and it appears now we’ve all given up

Me included

It’s going to be another year in this Sh1t league - I can see it coming

I’m an accountant, and deal in facts - that’s how I’m programmed , some say for the good, others say otherwise

Can someone tell me exactly on what we are spending all of the money. The extra gate revenue alone most add up to £££, then there’s the f a cup money , the ward money.....
Why can’t we sort matters out and sign some real quality players ? We keep saying that we can’t compete , really, why , we need to understand

Like many, I have challenges in my life, following wxm and attending games is somewhat of an escape or stress relief - I thought !!
I’m peed off with Tuesdays performance, our budget must dwarf Barrows, they looked like a footballing team, we looked like the vets team that I used to play for
It needs sorting out

It’s the same year after year

BH and BF, need to get a grip and quickly, other teams have a strategy, plan, a game plan, we seem to be headless chickens . Players like Pearson will get peed off and leave

I’m so frustrated after Tuesdays inept performance - it was and is totally unacceptable

Words escape me , 44 years of supporting and what can I say
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Marathonplny, look at the numbers. Did the 5 players in Jan cost £200k until then end of the season? If they did then fkng hell what a waste of money.
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loan signings are a little bit of a lottery;- but if the manager and scouts due their homework they SHOULD get it right more times than not.
the difference between Barrow's loan signings and Wrexham's is glaring. Barrow have only had 1 bad loan signing this season and he was sent back to Birmingham after a week.
The remainder have all been young players eager to impress, the main ones being;- Tyler Smith (10 goals before Christmas) Norrington Davies (No26 on Tuesday) both from Sheff Utd, Hardcastle (scored the 3rd) captain of Blackburn's U23 side. Dior Angus - the striker with the dyed blonde hair who went off after 20 mins (from Port Vale).
Having a manager (Ian Evatt) and assistant (Peter Atherton) with a lot of current contacts in the game as Premier and championship level is very important - no offence to Graham Barrow or the current management team at Wrexham - but they don't seam to have/had current contacts.
The final factor is probably you're recent record with young loan signings and how you have developed them. 2 seasons ago Barrow had Ryan Yates from Notts Forest they helped him improve his game a lot and he's currently playing in their 1st team. Last season we had Jimmy Dunne from Burnley - he got a lot of experience and confidence playing with Barrow and is currently on loan at Sunderland after spending the 1st half of the season at Hearts in Scotland. The success with developing them has made teams much more likely to loan Barrow more players - I'm not sure if Wrexham's recent seasons loan signings have improved the same way?
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loan signings are a little bit of a lottery;- but if the manager and scouts due their homework they SHOULD get it right more times than not.
the difference between Barrow's loan signings and Wrexham's is glaring. Barrow have only had 1 bad loan signing this season and he was sent back to Birmingham after a week.
The remainder have all been young players eager to impress, the main ones being;- Tyler Smith (10 goals before Christmas) Norrington Davies (No26 on Tuesday) both from Sheff Utd, Hardcastle (scored the 3rd) captain of Blackburn's U23 side. Dior Angus - the striker with the dyed blonde hair who went off after 20 mins (from Port Vale).
Having a manager (Ian Evatt) and assistant (Peter Atherton) with a lot of current contacts in the game as Premier and championship level is very important - no offence to Graham Barrow or the current management team at Wrexham - but they don't seam to have/had current contacts.
The final factor is probably you're recent record with young loan signings and how you have developed them. 2 seasons ago Barrow had Ryan Yates from Notts Forest they helped him improve his game a lot and he's currently playing in their 1st team. Last season we had Jimmy Dunne from Burnley - he got a lot of experience and confidence playing with Barrow and is currently on loan at Sunderland after spending the 1st half of the season at Hearts in Scotland. The success with developing them has made teams much more likely to loan Barrow more players - I'm not sure if Wrexham's recent seasons loan signings have improved the same way?
To be fair our manager Bryan Hughes has plenty of contacts in the foot golf world, so no offence this is an area you may struggle in....
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Well, we seem to choose poorly and waste money

Something has to be changed
Hopefully the new football mngt team see what we see

New rb
Midfield x 2 - regular fit starters
Strikers x 2 - who know where the net is

We have such a big squad, surely reduce it and improve the quality
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