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Old 13th March 2019, 21.37:21   #46-0 (permalink)
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We get excited, then disappointed and it appears now we’ve all given up

Me included

It’s going to be another year in this Sh1t league - I can see it coming

I’m an accountant, and deal in facts - that’s how I’m programmed , some say for the good, others say otherwise

Can someone tell me exactly on what we are spending all of the money. The extra gate revenue alone most add up to £££, then there’s the f a cup money , the ward money.....
Why can’t we sort matters out and sign some real quality players ? We keep saying that we can’t compete , really, why , we need to understand

Like many, I have challenges in my life, following wxm and attending games is somewhat of an escape or stress relief - I thought !!
I’m peed off with Tuesdays performance, our budget must dwarf Barrows, they looked like a footballing team, we looked like the vets team that I used to play for
It needs sorting out

It’s the same year after year

BH and BF, need to get a grip and quickly, other teams have a strategy, plan, a game plan, we seem to be headless chickens . Players like Pearson will get peed off and leave

I’m so frustrated after Tuesdays inept performance - it was and is totally unacceptable

Words escape me , 44 years of supporting and what can I say
Old 14th March 2019, 02.34:26   #47-0 (permalink)
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Default Re: Why are our loan signigns in the main so poor?

Marathonplny, look at the numbers. Did the 5 players in Jan cost £200k until then end of the season? If they did then fkng hell what a waste of money.
Old 14th March 2019, 05.20:39   #48-0 (permalink)
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loan signings are a little bit of a lottery;- but if the manager and scouts due their homework they SHOULD get it right more times than not.
the difference between Barrow's loan signings and Wrexham's is glaring. Barrow have only had 1 bad loan signing this season and he was sent back to Birmingham after a week.
The remainder have all been young players eager to impress, the main ones being;- Tyler Smith (10 goals before Christmas) Norrington Davies (No26 on Tuesday) both from Sheff Utd, Hardcastle (scored the 3rd) captain of Blackburn's U23 side. Dior Angus - the striker with the dyed blonde hair who went off after 20 mins (from Port Vale).
Having a manager (Ian Evatt) and assistant (Peter Atherton) with a lot of current contacts in the game as Premier and championship level is very important - no offence to Graham Barrow or the current management team at Wrexham - but they don't seam to have/had current contacts.
The final factor is probably you're recent record with young loan signings and how you have developed them. 2 seasons ago Barrow had Ryan Yates from Notts Forest they helped him improve his game a lot and he's currently playing in their 1st team. Last season we had Jimmy Dunne from Burnley - he got a lot of experience and confidence playing with Barrow and is currently on loan at Sunderland after spending the 1st half of the season at Hearts in Scotland. The success with developing them has made teams much more likely to loan Barrow more players - I'm not sure if Wrexham's recent seasons loan signings have improved the same way?
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loan signings are a little bit of a lottery;- but if the manager and scouts due their homework they SHOULD get it right more times than not.
the difference between Barrow's loan signings and Wrexham's is glaring. Barrow have only had 1 bad loan signing this season and he was sent back to Birmingham after a week.
The remainder have all been young players eager to impress, the main ones being;- Tyler Smith (10 goals before Christmas) Norrington Davies (No26 on Tuesday) both from Sheff Utd, Hardcastle (scored the 3rd) captain of Blackburn's U23 side. Dior Angus - the striker with the dyed blonde hair who went off after 20 mins (from Port Vale).
Having a manager (Ian Evatt) and assistant (Peter Atherton) with a lot of current contacts in the game as Premier and championship level is very important - no offence to Graham Barrow or the current management team at Wrexham - but they don't seam to have/had current contacts.
The final factor is probably you're recent record with young loan signings and how you have developed them. 2 seasons ago Barrow had Ryan Yates from Notts Forest they helped him improve his game a lot and he's currently playing in their 1st team. Last season we had Jimmy Dunne from Burnley - he got a lot of experience and confidence playing with Barrow and is currently on loan at Sunderland after spending the 1st half of the season at Hearts in Scotland. The success with developing them has made teams much more likely to loan Barrow more players - I'm not sure if Wrexham's recent seasons loan signings have improved the same way?
To be fair our manager Bryan Hughes has plenty of contacts in the foot golf world, so no offence this is an area you may struggle in....
Old 14th March 2019, 06.45:49   #50-0 (permalink)
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Well, we seem to choose poorly and waste money

Something has to be changed
Hopefully the new football mngt team see what we see

New rb
Midfield x 2 - regular fit starters
Strikers x 2 - who know where the net is

We have such a big squad, surely reduce it and improve the quality
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To be fair our manager Bryan Hughes has plenty of contacts in the foot golf world, so no offence this is an area you may struggle in....
Spot on!
Old 14th March 2019, 07.04:04   #52-0 (permalink)
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We get excited, then disappointed and it appears now we’ve all given up

Me included

It’s going to be another year in this Sh1t league - I can see it coming

I’m an accountant, and deal in facts - that’s how I’m programmed , some say for the good, others say otherwise

Can someone tell me exactly on what we are spending all of the money. The extra gate revenue alone most add up to £££, then there’s the f a cup money , the ward money.....
Why can’t we sort matters out and sign some real quality players ? We keep saying that we can’t compete , really, why , we need to understand

Like many, I have challenges in my life, following wxm and attending games is somewhat of an escape or stress relief - I thought !!
I’m peed off with Tuesdays performance, our budget must dwarf Barrows, they looked like a footballing team, we looked like the vets team that I used to play for
It needs sorting out

It’s the same year after year

BH and BF, need to get a grip and quickly, other teams have a strategy, plan, a game plan, we seem to be headless chickens . Players like Pearson will get peed off and leave

I’m so frustrated after Tuesdays inept performance - it was and is totally unacceptable

Words escape me , 44 years of supporting and what can I say
My feelings, too. We have punched above our weight for some time now, yet we are still not good enough to win the league.

Ultimately, it’s down to a limited budget, poor management, and mostly average quality players. Yet, despite all these deficiencies, we still have an opportunity to fight through the POs.

But we must start winning, starting on Saturday. Regardless whether we are promoted or not, BH has a rebuild on his hands for next season.

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Well, we seem to choose poorly and waste money

Something has to be changed
Hopefully the new football mngt team see what we see

New rb
Midfield x 2 - regular fit starters
Strikers x 2 - who know where the net is

We have such a big squad, surely reduce it and improve the quality
How many times have we heard ‘quality over quantity’ I’d say the last 4 managers have said this and why have we never had quality, it’s because we won’t pay the wages simple as. We keep signing players who can play in numerous positions or ‘raw talent’ like Fondop and offer them ridiculous deals, then chuck in the way we have indulged average players for 3 or 4 seasons that’s why we’re so poor. Why don’t we pay the required wages? Is there a wage cap? Former players have touched on this before and always gets ignored but no coincidence why we haven’t signed s decent goalscorer in years.
Old 14th March 2019, 08.26:21   #54-0 (permalink)
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Goals win games
Score two and you can let in one

You have to create enough chances to score
We seem to lack any creativity, there’s too much hoof ball played to a small isolated striker

If we are going to fill the midfield, why are we not dominating it

We’ve all got more questions than answers
Hoping that the two Brian’s have the answers
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