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[Phils-an-alki]

Originally Posted by Haruki

Personally i would have maintained the 4-3-3 system and used Rutherford as the third midfielder with the brief to use his energy to get around the pitch harrying and harassing opponents. Ricketts used him there a few times and I thought he was pretty effective and gave us energy in the centre of the park. We then had 3 from four of Tollit, Beavon, Oswell and McGleashan up top although personally i think Holroyd deserves a chance in the front three seeing as he scored 14 goals last season.

Other options for the third midfield slot were Deverdicks and Kennedy, the latter choice meaning Tharme slotted in an centre back.

The point is he was't forced to play 4-4-2 he had three options of maintaining the team shame and system. 4-3-3 got us to the top of the league before the Orient game, the players have been playing it all season and are well drilled. The change to 4-4-2 presumably had only Monday to practice team shape as Sunday would have been a day off.

Yozzer got it horribly wrong and showed his naivety. You simply can't wing games in the National League with only two in centre midfield, they aren't good enough players to cover all of the disciplines required.

That massively excuses the players for their inept clueless performances. Formations aside if as PD rightly says you can't even get the basics right you could have a team set up by Ferguson Mourhino and Pep and you'd still lose.
Plus why didn't one of the senior players out there get hold of a few of them and take control. If Keates in his pomp would have been out there I'm pretty sure he would have.
Hopefully was just a one off, a bad day that's not repeated again this season...

P.s. Re Deverdics - I think we all agree he isn't good enough, has done nothing since he signed and when given chances he failed to take them. It speaks volumes he didn't even make the bench.

[Sussex Red]

Many players have arrived, most of them have gone...so have the managers.

We find ourselves in the same position over and over again.

The only constant has been Darlington. Are his tactics holding us back?
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[sparky]

Originally Posted by Phils-an-alki

Someone grab Sparky and hold him back..

I don't feel anger, just pity.

[RED2309]

Originally Posted by the sleeping giant dies

now that everyone has stopped having an orgasm about flynn the messiah is back,except me. i am not a fan of flynns.so how much of an imbut is he having on the team, hes not on the touchline with the other three clueless ones, but sitting in the stands. we have not performed since he came on board. the money were paying him could and should have been used to pay a decent strikers wages, flynn can t score but a striker can and thats whats needed. the board are wasting the money the club has. we ll make the playoffs just but only for one round then its back to the two year plan and not enough money to bring in decent players. we should have got a decent manager in by now and been out of this league four years ago, the board are penny pinching cheap option every time

I very much doubt the combination of Hughes and Flynn is a cheap option and the employment of Flynn removes the need for a Director of Football.

Money was available for Ricketts and Barrow (when he took over) and targets had been identified including an attempt to get Rowe here (allegedly).

As for Tuesday night yes the tactics backfired but the performance of the players compounded the failure and lack of ball retention meant we kept putting ourselves back under pressure throughout the game.

Barrow despite this being their third game in a week showed more energy and determination than us although the space we gave them made it easy.

We cannot with whats available at present replace Walker in midfield and I fear this will ost us further points.

[pagl]

Originally Posted by Sussex Red

Many players have arrived, most of them have gone...so have the managers.

We find ourselves in the same position over and over again.

The only constant has been Darlington. Are his tactics holding us back?
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My understanding is that its his preferred 433 option and he doesnt like 442.
Its his TNS days but they could have played any formation and still win the league.

Is 433 a WAFC board mandate? Dont know.
This formation is OK but you need a good front 3 and thats something we dont have. 442 at this point would be better but not Young and Wright.

[Readred]

Originally Posted by the sleeping giant dies

now that everyone has stopped having an orgasm about flynn the messiah is back,except me. i am not a fan of flynns.so how much of an imbut is he having on the team, hes not on the touchline with the other three clueless ones, but sitting in the stands. we have not performed since he came on board. the money were paying him could and should have been used to pay a decent strikers wages, flynn can t score but a striker can and thats whats needed. the board are wasting the money the club has. we ll make the playoffs just but only for one round then its back to the two year plan and not enough money to bring in decent players. we should have got a decent manager in by now and been out of this league four years ago, the board are penny pinching cheap option every time

In this thread, someone who knows nothing about football, complains about someone who knows a lot about football not being able to instantly turn a team of mediocre players brought in by a snakeoil salesman into championship winners.

[lookingin]

There will be much debate on Flynn but this shouldn't be taken out of context after Tuesday's performance.

I think the wider picture here is as a club the board have gambled massively with Hughes which they then tried to dampen down the critics with Flynn. It's a worry to me personally that bar Hughes the rest of the entire back room staff are part time.

Darlington as we no is a Friday and game day, while Jussi and Flynn are both contracted for two days. Flynn still has a major role at Norwich and if they get promoted who knows what he will do.

Flynn is highly unlikely to be on the grass coaching so is Hughes a manager, coach or both? Jussi may coach but under Ricketts was given the job of set pieces and Dan Nolan is around in the interim but here is a guy with no real coaching qualifications and overseen the worst youth team performance for a number of years and a dwindling center of excellence where players are leaving freely to other clubs due to poor training and games programs.

The question shouldn't be solely on Flynn but the entire management team.

[louisleftboot]

I thought Jussi had no contract and was expenses only?

[benwilliams]

As others have said it sounds like the perfect storm and the proverbial bad day at the office. If we lose on Saturday I may reconsider but I think we just have to write it off and not have every player staff and board member burnt at the stake.