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Old 16th March 2019, 19.16:50   #41-0 (permalink)
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This. I think it needs to be addressed. January should be about getting in some cover for key players incase of injury etc. January's signings seem to have had a negative impact on the team. Obviously having 3 managers hasn't helped either.

Who knows what to expect next season?
Next season ?

Good start , lots of managers, top scorer with 9 goals, January signings that prove to be flops, and in April 2020 the same board, the same owners and the same people defending the indefensible
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Next season ?

Good start , lots of managers, top scorer with 9 goals, January signings that prove to be flops, and in April 2020 the same board, the same owners and the same people defending the indefensible
Exactly. We are comfortable in this league and every opportunity we have to get out of it, we seem to shy away.
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Since Fleetwood there has been no standout team and it is a fine line between all the others and we are not far offtgat level. Any of the top NL sides would struggle without a fit Pearson, Walker, Carrington or a Summerfield or their equivalents. It's times like this that tests the strength in depth of your squad. If Tuesday is a benchmark we haven't got that depth. However c'mon Wxm, let's see if others can step up today.

You say stand out team but Fleetwood were only 5 pts better off than Wrexham,since then Luton won the league and they were 19 pts clear of second place.Cheltenham also won the division by about 12 points.Facts not fiction.
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Its not all about cash your right. Its about looking a bit longer term though.
We should have a CF thats good enough for 2-3 years minimum. Fondop was never this option. Backup option yes but not main CF.

We have struggled for years not just 1 season.

BH has to sort out CM and CF in the summer thats the priority. Providing Pearson, Lawlor +1 stay as well.
I think Fondop was signed as a longer term prospect, but like others it hasn’t worked out for him. I do think that’s more the Management and coaches fault than it is his. Not played since god knows when and is still top scorer. Not sure where we’d be now if it wasn’t for his goals......

So, looking longer term, can you tell us all now who we should have signed at the start of the season? Or the start of next?

Not the likes of Rooney, who only signed for Salford for the £4.5 grand a week, because it’s not about cash, as you say.

With hindsight Rowe might have been a good shout, but Fylde wouldn’t have sold him to us. Bonne neither., but we couldnt have afforded him, anyway.

Boden and Beck are in the top 10 goalscorers this season, but both were here and both written off as not good enough.

McCallum top scorer and never heard him mentioned as a possibility before the start of the season, or since.
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Exactly. We are comfortable in this league and every opportunity we have to get out of it, we seem to shy away.

It's called a promotion prevention policy
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It's called a promotion prevention policy
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January is always difficult to sign players. Even more so when you have a new manager who doesn't really want to be there, with no real philosophy to recruit to. It's akin to giving a blind man a dart and asking him to throw it at the dart board.

We won't ever be able to compete financially in this league, with sugar daddy clubs everywhere. So the better players, most likely won't end up here. Which means we need to ensure we have a system for the "average player" to flourish in. This means choosing physical attributes over technical ones. I think a gegenpressing style would work wonders in the lower leagues, and the beauty of that system is you don't need star players. Hard working, high stamina, pace and able to carry out the basics of the role they play. In fact, we likely already have the players here to carry out this system.

As an example, though we would need to switch it to the opposite side.


From this we could realistically look at playing:

GK -Lainton
Defensive full back - Kennedy/Roberts
Attacking full back - Jennings
Covering Defender - Pearson
Libero/Ball playing Defender - Lawlor
Midfield sweeper - Carrington/Young (Walker would be ideal - So a replacement here)
Midfield Runner - Wright
Second striker - Holroyd/Grant
Defensive Winger - Rutherford
Attacking Winger - McGleashan/Holroyd
Striker - Oswell

Lower league players very often lack composure and technique, and so pressing these players will force mistakes and so the press become the playmaker. Win the ball back high up the pitch and counter.

If we then take this system of play, we can then invest into data analysis/scouting etc and recruit players for the system. You would also need to take into account other attributes, their mentality etc. Essentially it's looking at the big picture and how we can take advantage of the environment we currently see ourselves in.

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Who knows what to expect next season?
There is a saying in business, ‘Do the same and you get more of the same’.
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So, looking longer term, can you tell us all now who we should have signed at the start of the season? Or the start of next?.
I mentioned enough names pre-season that could have been signed

The issue is that signing just 1 player isnt really a policy or strategy. We need 2 forwards that can play and work together. Fondop on his own was not the solution or right thing to do.
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I mentioned enough names pre-season that could have been signed

The issue is that signing just 1 player isnt really a policy or strategy. We need 2 forwards that can play and work together. Fondop on his own was not the solution or right thing to do.
Yes but most opted to sign for FL teams.

Have any actually dropped into the NL and have been successful?

There were scores of players available in the summer and Oswell & Quiggley seemed to be top of most wish lists but opinions changed with hindsight and after their unsuccessful stints in L2.
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