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Old 11th April 2019, 14.49:32   #11-0 (permalink)
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They will be playing in the midweek football colleges league I think - a standard well below the current youth alliance which itself is below the CAT 1 & 2 schemes. The youth will win every game with many probably going double figures - they won't learn much. Chester in a similar position but at least they get the majority of their 2nd year players out into Counties, Unibond or 21s teams at the weekend and the 1st years and 16s play North West Youth Alliance which is reasonably competitive. Efforts need to be made to get the players moved into affiliate teams of a weekend to get them stretching game time.
Is it a blanket approach here ,where because of the standard the football club plays, that's where the youth play? Is there no quality test, ie, catchment area, number of kids, qualifications held by coaching staff and number of coaching staff that would allow a club of any size to compete against similar structures?
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Old 11th April 2019, 15.06:34   #12-0 (permalink)
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I was thinking about this the other day whilst in work.

A slightly different approach. If next season we are no longer able to play against the Youth teams of Professional teams, would it not make more sense to enter the Welsh Academy system until we get back into the Football League.

Currently as Wrexham aren't an FAW accredited academy, any Junior player wanting to register for Wrexham can only play for Wrexham. So theoretically a Junior player playing for Coedpoeth would have to give up his registration with them to register for Wrexham. This is due to FAW rule 59 which basically says a player can only register for one club at a time.

However due to an exception in Rule 62 a player can register for a Junior club alongside an FAW Academy. Therefore if for example though Cefn Druids wanted to sign the same player he would be able to retain his Junior registration with Coedpoeth and play with his friends, whilst also playing Academy football for Cefn Druids on an Academy registration. If Wrexham had FAW Academy status, maybe we could develop some of the better players in the area who otherwise may have gone to Airbus, Connahs Quay, TNS etc...

On top of this if we also entered a team in the Welsh Premier Development League, anyone signed for us on a Youth registration to play in that competition, would also be able to be registered as an Adult elsewhere simultaneously. So theoretically a player could play first team football for a Welsh Premier or Cymru Alliance team whilst also playing for our Youth team. You are also allowed three overage players in the WPDL.

Our First team playing in the English system would have no baring on this, as Merthyr and Colwyn Bay have Youth and/or Academy teams in the Welsh system.

Of course though this is hypothetical, and is only a proposal if we're no longer able to play against the Youth teams of Professional teams.
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Agree totally Pagl.The recent good results deserve more publicity and the club twitter account gives next to nothing information on them.Understand need to highlight the community initiatives etc but should give some publicity on young lads who have chosen to play for Wrexham. Need to be tweeting international call ups too as looks at moment that club has no interest whatsoever in them..Surely highlighting and promoting youth should be in the constitution of the Trust ?
We were all told early in the season more focus would be seen on letting everyone know about the youth sides. Initially this was the case and as with a lot of things it's gone quiet again.

Such a shame.
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I was thinking about this the other day whilst in work.

A slightly different approach. If next season we are no longer able to play against the Youth teams of Professional teams, would it not make more sense to enter the Welsh Academy system until we get back into the Football League.

Currently as Wrexham aren't an FAW accredited academy, any Junior player wanting to register for Wrexham can only play for Wrexham. So theoretically a Junior player playing for Coedpoeth would have to give up his registration with them to register for Wrexham. This is due to FAW rule 59 which basically says a player can only register for one club at a time.

However due to an exception in Rule 62 a player can register for a Junior club alongside an FAW Academy. Therefore if for example though Cefn Druids wanted to sign the same player he would be able to retain his Junior registration with Coedpoeth and play with his friends, whilst also playing Academy football for Cefn Druids on an Academy registration. If Wrexham had FAW Academy status, maybe we could develop some of the better players in the area who otherwise may have gone to Airbus, Connahs Quay, TNS etc...

On top of this if we also entered a team in the Welsh Premier Development League, anyone signed for us on a Youth registration to play in that competition, would also be able to be registered as an Adult elsewhere simultaneously. So theoretically a player could play first team football for a Welsh Premier or Cymru Alliance team whilst also playing for our Youth team. You are also allowed three overage players in the WPDL.

Our First team playing in the English system would have no baring on this, as Merthyr and Colwyn Bay have Youth and/or Academy teams in the Welsh system.

Of course though this is hypothetical, and is only a proposal if we're no longer able to play against the Youth teams of Professional teams.

I've suggested this also, we may also get additional protections on players moving from our CoE to a bigger clubs. Not being able to transfer between associations until 16 or 18 I think it is.
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I was thinking about this the other day whilst in work.

A slightly different approach. If next season we are no longer able to play against the Youth teams of Professional teams, would it not make more sense to enter the Welsh Academy system until we get back into the Football League.

Currently as Wrexham aren't an FAW accredited academy, any Junior player wanting to register for Wrexham can only play for Wrexham. So theoretically a Junior player playing for Coedpoeth would have to give up his registration with them to register for Wrexham. This is due to FAW rule 59 which basically says a player can only register for one club at a time.

However due to an exception in Rule 62 a player can register for a Junior club alongside an FAW Academy. Therefore if for example though Cefn Druids wanted to sign the same player he would be able to retain his Junior registration with Coedpoeth and play with his friends, whilst also playing Academy football for Cefn Druids on an Academy registration. If Wrexham had FAW Academy status, maybe we could develop some of the better players in the area who otherwise may have gone to Airbus, Connahs Quay, TNS etc...

On top of this if we also entered a team in the Welsh Premier Development League, anyone signed for us on a Youth registration to play in that competition, would also be able to be registered as an Adult elsewhere simultaneously. So theoretically a player could play first team football for a Welsh Premier or Cymru Alliance team whilst also playing for our Youth team. You are also allowed three overage players in the WPDL.

Our First team playing in the English system would have no baring on this, as Merthyr and Colwyn Bay have Youth and/or Academy teams in the Welsh system.

Of course though this is hypothetical, and is only a proposal if we're no longer able to play against the Youth teams of Professional teams.
Get back to work!
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I've suggested this also, we may also get additional protections on players moving from our CoE to a bigger clubs. Not being able to transfer between associations until 16 or 18 I think it is.
Yep Article 19 of FIFA regulations prohibits the transfer of players under 18 from transferring internationally. It is still possible but strict criteria has to be met.
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Get back to work!
To be fair I work in football so I’ve got time to think about football related stuff.
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The youth team have a home match tomorrow v Port Vale, 11am ko at Stansty Park
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The youth team have a home match tomorrow v Port Vale, 11am ko at Stansty Park
This information should be in the club web site.
I did find the fixture eventually in the newsletter but no KO time.

I am sure some fans would be interested in this.
Likewise for sponsorship. If no-one knows about this team then how will sponsorship come in?

The RP community used to raise £1,500 at a time to sponsor youth teams in the past but this has stopped due to lack of awareness. The club should promote these fixtures as not everyone will trawl pages of tinternet. Its the 3 strike rule.
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This information should be in the club web site.
I did find the fixture eventually in the newsletter but no KO time.

I am sure some fans would be interested in this.
Likewise for sponsorship. If no-one knows about this team then how will sponsorship come in?

The RP community used to raise £1,500 at a time to sponsor youth teams in the past but this has stopped due to lack of awareness. The club should promote these fixtures as not everyone will trawl pages of tinternet. Its the 3 strike rule.
Either apathy or just no interest by the club in youth matters at present.Happy enough though to pay off a Mike Newell or pay a Bobby Grant a high wage to do nothing.
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