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[QUOTE=Alan Attack;2249810]Raising a bond is one thing. Raising actual capital is something entirely different. 99% of supporters are happy enough (or can only afford) to pay for admission and not tens of thousands owning a fraction of the club.

It wouldn’t have gone down well in my household if I’d said was going to get a loan for (say) £50k to help buy Wrexham. I might’ve been sitting pretty with the student flats but that’s not the point.[/QUOTE]

We've got a core of around 5k of very loyal supports, selling shares at £100 each raises half a million. Also absolutely no guarantees that bond would ever be payed back either.

'Proper fans' as some WST members put it would've remortgaged their homes anyway

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[QUOTE=GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo;2249814]We've got a core of around 5k of very loyal supports, selling shares at £100 each raises half a million. Also absolutely no guarantees that bond would ever be payed back either.

'Proper fans' as some WST members put it would've remortgaged their homes anyway[/QUOTE]

Maybe but we can't get those 5K hard core fans let alone the other 3 or 4K who will be at the Racecourse in 2 weeks time to pay £1per month club membership currently.

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"As a society we have made the decision to submit to the market, to say pretty much anyone can own pretty much anything, the only regulating forces demand, supply and finance. This argument says football clubs are not in any real sense community assets (communities themselves are old hat) but commodities like anything else. To complain that we’re not happy unregulated markets attract both desirable investors and incompetent chancers is a bit like leaving the doors and windows open and then bursting into tears when someone walks off with your television. "

Barney Ronay on Aston Villa three years ago. Still true. I think we can do better than that by making what we’ve got better. If you disagree then your opportunity is coming around again to get a sale discussed. You can’t afford to flinch at that suggestion just because you want someone else (ie the current board) to just wake up one day and think “hmmm, maybe this just isn’t good enough and we need to sell” because it’s not going to happen (especially as we’re solvent and in the playoffs - a dictionary definition of doing ok). Someone else has to sell a different vision to the members or we’re just going to be reading more of this for another 12 months.

And before any of the usual gobs jump in, that doesn’t equal “stand for the board or you can’t comment” but when it comes to movement on what model we go with you aren’t going to change a thing by crossing your fingers and posting on here. You have to use the democracy.

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[QUOTE=davewilli;2249818]Maybe but we can't get those 5K hard core fans let alone the other 3 or 4K who will be at the Racecourse in 2 weeks time to pay £1per month club membership currently.[/QUOTE]

Does that point to bigger problems, that many are dissatisfied at the moment with how things are.

If it came down to it, I reckon it could be done. The WST and some of t's members stood by last time, yet the cash needed was still raised.

Anyway, with all this recent information about the youth sides after being quiet for years, the sceptic in me says were due some news about it very soon. The artillery are all being positioned and this started as it looked like we could slip out of the play offs.

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[QUOTE=GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo;2249814]
'Proper fans' as some WST members put it would've remortgaged their homes anyway[/QUOTE]

Absolute garbage. Point out where someone has said that.

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Whats all this slip out of the playoffs malarkey?
Its such an awful league with awful players its highly likely that 'The Town' will creep up to the Football League.
Onwards and upwards !!

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[QUOTE=GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo;2249824]Does that point to bigger problems, that many are dissatisfied at the moment with how things are.[/QUOTE]

The truth is more prosaic than that, that the silent majority aren’t worrying their heads about any of this. They might grumble a bit to each other after a defeat but aside from that just pay their subs to get a cheaper season ticket and leave it there for 12 months. There’s no greater measure of satisfaction or otherwise than how many people are coming to games, and this is as healthy as it has been in my time watching the team. All the other hand wringing happens online but otherwise doesn’t affect anything.

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[QUOTE=davewilli;2249818]Maybe but we can't get those 5K hard core fans let alone the other 3 or 4K who will be at the Racecourse in 2 weeks time to pay £1per month club membership currently.[/QUOTE]

Its a puzzle. Growing membership has to be one of our main priorities (maybe Strategy 2021 can be started). To do this we have to improve communication.
Fans do want to see a sense of purpose for their money. I know a lot of members (me included) pay more than the £1 the month and I have suggested ideas on improvements but as I have been told the WST know better than me so hopefully they can improve this with their greater skills.
Selling ‘shares’ or whatever its called does open up a private investor debate so maybe we should be looking to improve different areas first, generate more financial stability and then improve again.

I see the changes and improvements starting at WAFC board but I know many will disagree.

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[QUOTE=GarryOggy;2249825]Absolute garbage. Point out where someone has said that.[/QUOTE]

Where do I say it was said? Anyone having their say is deemed not to be a 'proper fan', so the proper ones if the WST was asking for money wouldn't think twice about remortgaging.

Some did other their homes as collateral when the WST sat on it's hands though, no idea if they were members or not mind.