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Old 21st April 2019, 22.28:40   #71-0 (permalink)
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I think many have forgotten; the club in administration, massively in debt, haemeraging money hand over fist and losing its assets. The Trust may have taken a bit of time to pay off the debts, stabilise then turn things round financially but the last 2 seasons despite 2 managers upping sticks mid season progress has been made on the pitch.

Now is not the time to lose our bottle and give up on the Trust, or bail out as some are threatening, now is the time to see things through and fair play overall attendances have improved on the back of the team's winning form. We have been desperate for a shot at the play offs for the last 5 years and now we have that chance, we should embrace it.
We wonít win in the playoffs this team isnít good enough.
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No, I think Poole was when the WST were looking to buy. The one I'm thinking of was southern based.
Andy Smith if I remember correctly. Nothing came of it I’m sure he didn’t really have £££


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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_east/4120020.stm

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Sorry, I’ll re-type that. Too much sun!

What if those on the board were people you know, trusted, and respected?
It’s a no from me it hasn’t worked, we’ve become baron scared of any outside help and no club in the uk has done well being owned by the fans. Swansea were owned my multiple groups with the lowest cut being the fans.

People make points such as attendance it’s not really improved signings, people claim we are spending more on the playing budget but are the wages higher or lower but other costs have gone up because who remembers that very question being asked at a meeting and a politicians answer was given. We ran a build the budget and they just incorporated that money into the running costs rather than add it onto a wage for s striker so we don’t sign poor players.

Honestly after the Barrow fiasco the poor run that followed it’s all on a board of directors who couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery. Because they probably shouldn’t even be on the board of a football club, they may have the clubs best interests at heart but they are keeping us here.

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Given all the trust diehards on here you would expect a queue of nominees to stretch down Crispin Lane
Or the opposite to your remark, plenty of moaners on here queueing up to get on the board. Looking forward to the take over
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They backed it while knowing what a crook Moss was, the WST meeting about the proposal was little more than two groups of people crowing at each other pretending to be hard. While getting distracted from the real issue and finding a way forward.

So the trust couldn't have done a leveraged buyout like the Glazers famously did? I think they could've.

Nothing but blind faith in those running things back then and some currently still are, little wonder were in the mess we are now.

A rod made for our own backs being far too militant for fear of redevelopers, yet jumped into bed with one anyway.
Time does cloud the memory but I thought it was down to the administrator trying to get the best deal for the creditors.
Moss / Dickens were able with support to find a sum of around £2million. (Some borrowed from Steve Morgan) The WST couldn't match that and had proposed to use the money from the flats development to pay the debts.
The administrator wanted the best deal up front and the trust were left in no position to argue. They went along with the deal rather than backing it.
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This post in a nutshell is why we're the longest National league club and why clubs like Tranmere Leyton only stay down here a season.

Happy to stay in the National league until we have gates like clubs we call tinpot because without ambition a football club if nothing especially when leaving winning aside the football on display would of been classed as a pub league yrs ago.

I hear your point but Hamilton is long gone and not every private owner is a Crook else every club in the leagues above would be bust.

Ask yourself why Blackpool, Bolton, Notts County don't say sod this let the trust run the club? Why haven't Chesterfield done it? They will probably be up there next season.t

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Yes I bet Bolton , Blackpool and Notts County just love the way their clubs have been screwed over, have they had any choice between trust or private ownership? And once again like Iíve ask on here many times please give me an alternative ?
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Yes I bet Bolton , Blackpool and Notts County just love the way their clubs have been screwed over, have they had any choice between trust or private ownership? And once again like Iíve ask on here many times please give me an alternative ?
The trust should put it up for sale and see if they can either sell or bring people on board preferably Iíd like to see us split the club in 4.
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The trust should put it up for sale and see if they can either sell or bring people on board preferably Iíd like to see us split the club in 4.
Split the club in 4?
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Or the opposite to your remark, plenty of moaners on here queueing up to get on the board. Looking forward to the take over
Goes against what people are saying on here though. WST best run by true fans, if you moan your not a fan. All the WST die hards would be enough bodies to run it more efficiently.
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They backed it while knowing what a crook Moss was, the WST meeting about the proposal was little more than two groups of people crowing at each other pretending to be hard. While getting distracted from the real issue and finding a way forward.

So the trust couldn't have done a leveraged buyout like the Glazers famously did? I think they could've.

Nothing but blind faith in those running things back then and some currently still are, little wonder were in the mess we are now.

A rod made for our own backs being far too militant for fear of redevelopers, yet jumped into bed with one anyway.
That's quite a remarkable comparison. WST could have bought Wrexham on the same basis multi billionaire family the Glazers bought Man Utd. Itís like saying any of us with a house worth 3-400k which is mostly paid off could also have bought Wrexham.

Anyway, what was the evidence that Moss was not trustworthy some 10 years ago?
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